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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:15 PM
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Poll question: Pessimist - Optimist - Realist Poll
"I feel that we're going to win this November."


Personally, I think that Kerry will win. The vote in 2000 was too close. Now the legacy of * is on record, and he will pay the price. For the record, I predict (for the 100th time) that Ohio will go "blue" this year. The "Mother of Presidents" will deliver. He's toast. Mark my words, bookmark this thread, and call me filthy names if I'm wrong.

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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:23 PM
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1. If you disagree with my original assessment, tell me why.
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 09:26 PM by Blue-Jay
SVP.

I'm not attention-whoring, mind you. I'd like to hear your feelings at this point in the race to regain the WH.

D'oh: Spelling edit
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:59 PM
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10. because BushCo owns the voting machines . . .
I believe Kerry will get more legitimate votes . . . I do not believe that all of those votes will be reported as cast, particularly in states like Ohio and Florida . . . hell, the CEO of Diebold has already promised to deliver Ohio for Bush . . .

it's not who votes that counts . . . it's who counts the votes! . . .
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:27 PM
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2. I'll do worse than that Blue-Jay....
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 09:34 PM by Radicalliberal
I'll make you play a Student-Line Winston Sax with leaky pads with a
14* Otto Link with #5 reed. AGGGGG!! :)

On Edit: And you have to use it when you audition for a 2000 dollar a week job!

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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 08:30 AM
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15. Man, you really know
how to hurt a guy, don't you?
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:28 PM
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3. Fatalist
I think Kerry will win but I don't think there will be too much of a difference i.e. the Iraq war or the Patriot Act. Both will probably stay. And it won't be anywhere near the 180 we need on the political direction of the country.

That said anybody is better than Bush.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:37 PM
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4. Fine. Point taken.
My question to you: Is it better to pull out completely or to try our best to fix what we illegally broke?

We shouldn't have been there in the first place, but now that we are, it's impossible to just bugger off. I WISH we could pull all our our boys out and just say "Sorry about your luck, Iraq", but that opportunity has passed. We owe it to their country to see that they are provided for. I wish that weren't the case. The fact is that WE fucked up, so we owe them the support necessary to "fix it".





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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:12 PM
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13. Yes we do have a responsibilty to fix it
But with the UN leading like in Kosovo. More imperialism doesn't help matters.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:38 PM
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5. Just so you know
I AM bookmarking this thread. I'm also holding you personally responsible for Ohio.

BTW, I voted optimist.

:hi:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:43 PM
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7. Sure!
If I'm wrong, Proles can tie me up and have her way with me.

I'm not wrong, though. Ohio will deliver the goods.

(See? If I lose, I win. If I win, we ALL win!)

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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:49 PM
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8. Oh such a great sacrifice
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 09:49 PM by prolesunited
you would be making in the name of democracy. :eyes:

Tell you what. If we win, maybe I'll tie you up just for kicks. ;-)

Now, you better stop before you turn this into a sex thread and get it locked. :spank:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:02 PM
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11. As much as I'd let you tie me up.....
I'm more concerned with the current mindset of the average DUer.

Why, you ask?

Easy. In my short time of being registered here, I've seen DU issues become mainstream reality too many times. For instance; BBV, AWOL, LIHOP, etc.... We're the vanguard. We're ahead of the game. If DU provides the facts, it will eventually be looked at by the regular media whores.

Again, DU is the vanguard. How many time must I see a story broken here, only to see it parroted by the LIBERAL MEDIA? hahahaha!

We're gonna smoke the bastards in office come November. Yes, I'm an Optimist, bordering on Realism. Those sorry shitheads are toast.

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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:42 PM
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6. kinda depends on my mood/time of day &
whatever crap I've just heard someone spout off in the lunch room/bus stop or on the teev.

I change my mind a lot between pessimistic, optimistic and everything in between - but there's also a lot of "kerry will win but then again so did Gore and no-one cared" happening in my head too.

I wouldn't put anything past these war mongering money grubbing ferals - certainly not something they've gotten scot free with before
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:52 PM
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9. Realist
It is just way too early for this "Bush is toast", "Bush is done" and "Bush is finished" nonsense.

DU is so predictable. This same scenario plays out time and time again to the point it is almost comical:

A story breaks, Bush gets a couple days of bad press, threads pop up all over General Discussion talking about the media having turned on Bush and how this or that media personality has finally seen the light, half of DU rejoices and proclaims the Bush administration over.........

A few days later, said story is largely dropped for something more timely (shark attacks, celebrity trial, etc), the media has allowed the Bush hacks plenty of time to shoot the messenger, the same network and cable personalities that just days ago had supposedly "seen the light" are now "whoring for the Bush administration", half of DU throws in the towel and declares the race over because we won't be able to overcome BBV conspiracies.........

IT'S TOO EARLY! Geeze. There is still something like 8 months to go until election day. Anything can and will happen. One week in politics can change everything. The momentum in this race is going to change dozens of times before now and November.

Bush is not "toast", Kerry is not either. Even if a large number of negative stories come out about Bush, the media will make sure an equal number plague Kerry - even if they have to make them up. The press wants a horserace to keep their ratings up. Once the mainstream is satisfied that both Bush and Kerry will largely maintain the status quo - and they will, the reporting will mostly be aimed at keeping things interesting. Bush will have a couple poor weeks, then the media will run with some story that makes Kerry look bad for awhile.

So long as neither Kerry or Bush make any catastrophic gaffs, this thing is going to be very close on election day - just the way the mainstream media likes it.

Imajika
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:10 PM
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12. I'd love to think Bush is finished
But he has the presidency, he has the freaking media, he has the money and he has all the idiots down south, but I'm still hopeful that we are going to come out in force and vote this lying sack out of office
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 10:13 PM
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14. I have days both ways
Depends on my mood. Some days Im optimistic some days not.

Most of the time I have a strong feeling we win in a landslide with this nightmare we face as people come to their senses.
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