July, 1996--Clinton's terrorism measures a "phony" issue--Orrin Hatch

[Catherine Vincent]

http://www.cnn.com/US/9607/30/clinton.terrorism/index.html

President Clinton wanted congress to hurry with their anti-terrorism laws but republicans kept stalling.

[proud patriot]

1. Yep !

[grannylib]

2. Hey nice catch...thanks! I know they are watching the site pretty

closely but send that to the Kerry campaign anyhow, wouldja please?

[Trajan]

3. From an earlier thread ....

An old news story .... from: http://dir.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/09/12/bush/index.html


"We predicted it"

A bipartisan commission warned the White House and Congress that a bloody attack on U.S. soil could be imminent. Why didn't anyone listen?

By Jake Tapper
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September 12, 2001 | WASHINGTON -- They went to great pains not to sound as though they were telling the president "We told you so."

But on Wednesday, two former senators, the bipartisan co-chairs of a Defense Department-chartered commission on national security, spoke with something between frustration and regret about how White House officials failed to embrace any of the recommendations to prevent acts of domestic terrorism delivered earlier this year.

Bush administration officials told former Sens. Gary Hart, D-Colo., and Warren Rudman, R-N.H., that they preferred instead to put aside the recommendations issued in the January report by the U.S. Commission on National Security/21st Century. Instead, the White House announced in May that it would have Vice President Dick Cheney study the potential problem of domestic terrorism -- which the bipartisan group had already spent two and a half years studying -- while assigning responsibility for dealing with the issue to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, headed by former Bush campaign manager Joe Allbaugh.

The Hart-Rudman Commission had specifically recommended that the issue of terrorism was such a threat it needed far more than FEMA's attention.

-snip-

THAT commission was established BY Clinton, ... and ignored by Bush ...

[LoZoccolo]

4. This is a good article to have.

Notice they don't have a quote from the opposition saying that the measures are phony but they'd recommend certain ones in their place.

Now the other article I'm looking for right now is one about this urban legend that Sudan said they'd turn over bin Laden and Clinton turned the offer down...I think I heard something about the guy that made the offer was just trying to get something else and didn't really have him, but it would be good to have something to point to. I do have this, about Clinton asking the Taliban for bin Laden over two dozen times:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/01/30/taliban.talks

We do know, that Bush* refused an offer to turn over bin Laden in the middle of the Afganistan conflict:

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0WDQ/2001_Oct_22/80338926/p1/article.jhtml

There's just so much evidence that Clinton wasn't soft on terror...but if they can make some story that makes it seem he wasn't on some visceral level, like he must be weak because he's a liberal, I guess people believe it anyways.

[Michael Harrington]

8. Mansour Ijaz

Is the name you're looking for. He's not seen as very credible. (I went to school with his brother, who was an asshole, for what that's worth...)

[ElsewheresDaughter]

14. KICK!

[Zinfandel]

5. And look where it's coming from...fucking Orin Hatch...damage control.

What a piece of shit republican liar. They wanted Iraq and they got Iraq...now pay the piper, fascist fucks.

[Daisey Mae]

6. well said

[jayfish]

7. "he had some problems with the president's proposls to expand wiretapping"

You don't have too many problems with expanded wiretapping now, do you Orrin?

Jay

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

12. Oh, that's truly RICH

From the man who wants mandatory automatic 24/7 wiretapping in all electronics devices in the frikkin' Universe!

I fart in Orrin Hatch's general direction.

[NicRic]

9. Dems should make ads...

showing clips of the repugs taking shots at Clintons attempts to bring terrorist efforts to their attension and their responses ! This would erase the false pretence that the repugs are stronger on anti terrorist actions !

[aprilgirl]

10. You are so right....Mail this to the Kerry campaign or MOveOn.

We need to keep up the responses to their lying charges.

[aprilgirl]

11. Though someone might want to see some of the actual text

"Hatch blasts 'phony' issues

Republican leaders earlier met with White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta for about an hour in response to the president's call for "the very best ideas" for fighting terrorism.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, emerged from the meeting and said, "These are very controversial provisions that the White House wants. Some they're not going to get."

Hatch called Clinton's proposed study of taggants -- chemical markers in explosives that could help track terrorists -- "a phony issue."

"If they want to, they can study the thing" already, Hatch asserted. He also said he had some problems with the president's proposals to expand wiretapping.

Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-South Dakota, said it is a mistake if Congress leaves town without addressing anti-terrorism legislation. Daschle is expected to hold a special meeting on the matter Wednesday with Congressional leaders. "

[ElsewheresDaughter]

13. this is a rethug agency: read this document it will blow you away

this is the analysis that Hatch used to make his arguements against Clintons Terrorism Act (1995)....and it is exactly what the pukes are using to support their deeds now re: CNN article :grr: :grr: :grr:

The rethugs in control of congress blocked all of Clintions
attempts to do something about Al Qaeda and terrorism! they wanted to see Clintons penis instead!!!!

http://nsi.org/Library/Terrorism/rites.htm
CENTER FOR NATIONAL SECURITY STUDIES

[Catherine Vincent]

15. Kick: A couple of other articles:

http://www.cnn.com/US/9609/09/clinton.aviation/index.html

Clinton seeks $1 billion to fight terrorism

September 9, 1996

"Terrorists don't wait, and neither should we," the president said during a ceremony in the Oval Office. The report was prepared by the Commission on Aviation Safety and Security chaired by Vice President Al Gore. (11 sec./249K AIFF or WAV sound)

Gore said the report's recommendations represented "a combination of approaches -- some high-tech, some low-tech, even some no-tech."

Clinton said that his administration is committed to battling terrorism "on every front."

"The vice president's plan goes to the heart of this strategy, so I want everyone to understand that whenever this plan says the commission recommends, you can understand it to meant that the president will."

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http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/05/17/clinton.security/index.html

CLINTON WARNS OF EMERGING NATIONAL SECURITY RISKS

In address to Coast Guard Academy, president calls for more money to fight terrorism

May 17, 2000

Delivering the commencement address to the Coast Guard Academy's 119th graduating class, Clinton revisited many of the security concerns he has outlined in previous wide-ranging speeches on this subject, with one subtlety added to Wednesday's address -- the acknowledgement that the end of his term is inching ever closer, and his recommendations would have to be impressed upon the incoming commander-in-chief.