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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 06:42 AM
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Imus trashing Clarke
Jonathan Alter is presenting excellent arguments why Clarke is reputable, while Imus is trashing everything he says

What a bunch of nonesense

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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 06:44 AM
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1. Just heard it. Imus is disgusting!
Alter callled Imus on "lapping it up" for the Repugs. I LOVE it!
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 06:46 AM
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2. Dont dismiss him totally...he's been playing for our side alot lately...
I think his only point is why didnt he come out with this info until he had a book to sell. I think that is a reasonable question. But I dont think that lessens the authors credibility. And Imus is also led around by Bernard...he will ditto anything Bernard has to say.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 06:48 AM
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3. Bernard who?
Incidently, you indicate "Imus" has been playing for our side alot lately, he is a wolf in sheeps clothing.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:11 AM
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11. After listening to him for years...
Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 07:20 AM by Cannikin
In all honesty, he's on the side of the person he thinks is going to win...it changes daily.

Bernard McGuirk is his producer and is usually the one feeding Imus his opinions....look for the bald guy in the control room. Thats him.

Like I said, I've been listening to him for years. He'll call out both sides. I dont think he's biased...he just doenst put up with B.S. from either side. I cant say I blame him. You've got to respect him for calling out some of these big name reporters and telling them they are full of it, and are actually helping the Bush propaganda machine...it was either yesterday or last week when this happened..I'm not remembering who he attacked, but basicaly accused her of being a 'Karen Ryan' even though she's a network news anchor.


And ALL politicians are wolves in sheeps clothing.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 06:52 AM
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4. Alter called Imus
on playing "the devil's advocate." Imus responded by saying he couldn't understand why Alter was attacking the Black woman from the administration. Alter then called Condi Rice "pathetic." If we look at this exchange as a whole, it appears to me that Imus was allowing Jonathan Alter to answer the critics from the right. He then set-up Condi for a great slam by Alter. Rather than see this as a negative thing, I'd say it was a wonderful way to reach the middle-America with a solid message that Clarke is a serious man with an honest message, and that the bush administration is lying to the public when they try to smear Clarke.
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lindashaw Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 06:54 AM
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7. Okay. I'll give you that point.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 06:54 AM
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8. I think you are on to something there
And he ended the segment by playing Clinton's denial of having an affair with Lewinski. That to me anyway, was some kind of indication that Smirk is lying, a sort of backhanded way of saying it.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:08 AM
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10. What are you talking about
playing Clinton's denial was his way of saying that Clarke is lying!!!
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:12 AM
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13. Notice the Clinton clip ended with Bush
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:21 AM
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18. I've said before that in Politics 101
that there are 3 groups: those who will always vote for you; those who never will; and those who are undecided. The third group will decide this election, of course, because groups one & two are closely divided.(Think 2000 election!) Now, Imus could put on a program that is geared entirely to the first group, even specifically to the 13 d.u.ers who watch his show on any given morning. But the third group would switch to CNN or even Fox, and the sponsors would take their $$$ elsewhere. I hope everyone will agree this is not likely to happen. So, let's think: if old Don Imus wanted to support Kerry, who he has endorsed, and to reach that group #3 with a clear and concise message, how to best do that? Huh, how about putting on Jonathan Alter, lobbing some easy questions that mimick the group #2, and letting Alter slam them? This is not rocket science, and some of the people who are complaining sound grumpier than Imus. Be happy! Imus is reaching a group of people who would never consider reading d.u., but who will be voting for Kerry in November as a result of the Imus show.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 06:52 AM
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5. Was Imus a Democrat befor he made that speech that Clinton didn't find....
Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 06:56 AM by patricia92243
funny? I've wondered that for a long time. That was the only time I had seen Imus and was surprised he is nothing but a pub mouthpiece.

Anybody know if he was Democrat and has now "turned"?
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:15 AM
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16. For a while he was voting for Bush...
Then a few weeks ago he said he was supporting Kerry....I'm not sure who he's supporting this week.
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lindashaw Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 06:53 AM
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6. Imus pulled a "Chris Matthews" and would hardly let the man speak.
I thought it was terrible behavior. Shame on Imus.
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Daisey Mae Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 06:56 AM
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9. I would like to beleive that Imus
has seen the light, but I don't think you can teach a OLD dog NEW tricks......I hope that I am wrong about this.....
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:11 AM
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12. I won't watch this idiot again
This is the first time I have seen him, and it will be the last. Another bias ASS!!!
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:13 AM
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14. Trust me...he's NOT biased..tune in tomorrow and he could have...
an entirely different opinion. He calls it how he see's it. He defends are side just as often....but he flip flops in a big way. He's well known for it and often gets picked on about it by guest and other staff.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:19 AM
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17. OK he's not biased
HE IS JUST AN IDIOT!

anyone who waffles as much as he does is no better than a bowl of jello
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:30 AM
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20. Precisely...
I listen to hear him tell people like Leslie Stahl that they are lier's.
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mrbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:14 AM
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15. imus is a dillweed
n/t
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:23 AM
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19. Imus is an anus...
and that is being polite.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:53 AM
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21. They resorting to "kill the Messenger" as the main spin outta "this"one
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