9/11 Commission hearings gavel to gavel c-span beg. 9 AM

[napi21]

I plan on having it on all day, and I hope they will broadcast them tomorrow as well.

Both days should be interesting, but tomorrow should be VERY INTERESTING with Clarke to end the day.

I was pretty young at the time of Watergate and didn't pay much attention, but I do remember John Dean dropping a bombshell at the hearings.

I wonder if Clarke's testimony is going to fall into that category this time?

[harrison]

1. Well, if * is defeated, it appears that it is some loyal Republican

Americans and a Democratic Governor, and a Democratic Congressman who actually led the charge. Scott Ritter, Howard Dean, Paul O'Neill, Kevin Phillips, Dennis Kucinich and now Richard Clarke. The most damning testimony has come from the Republicans which may be obvious because they can't be charged with having an axe to grind.

It is refreshing to know that we have true patriots who love their country over a political party.

Bartcop is right, though. The Dems have pretty much failed us in this endeavour (with some notable exceptions).

[underpants]

2. Hey can you give me a link to c-span?

The system I am working on doesn't allow me to open more than one screen at a time without it coming from a link.

[maddezmom]

3. here ya go

http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=

:)

[librechik]

4. c-span said they won't cover the whole day, just till 10:30 ET

I'm starting to get pissed...Anybody know if anyone is broadcasting the whole thing?

[deutsey]

5. KPFA broadcasting it all day, I believe

www.kpfa.org

I'm not sure if other Pacifica stations are...

KPFA's Live Broadcast
9-11 Commission Hearings

Pacifica Radio will broadcast live from Capitol Hill the September 11 Commission hearings into Terrorist Attacks on the United States Tuesday and Wednesday, March 23 and 24th. The witness list, just announced, includes Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, George Tenet, Madeline Albright, and many other present and former government officials.

For the first time in public, the Commission says it will examine what the Bush administration knew and did leading up to 9/11.

The broadcasts will begin at 5:30 a.m. PST and last until conclusion.

Pacifica's National Affairs Correspondent, Larry Bensky, will anchor the hearings from Capitol Hill.

For more information on the commission and the scheduled hearing agenda: www.9-11commission.gov

[librechik]

22. thx, deutsey, I'll check it out! n/t

[chelsea0011]

6. Who is Michael Hurley? Anyone familiar with him?

[robbedvoter]

8. He is not indexed in Clarke's, Blumenthal's book

All I have. he is asked to wrap up.

[indigo32]

7. I just got an audio stream

just wondering whom it is testifying right now.

[robbedvoter]

9. Philip Zelikow - the exec director of the commission reads conclusions

since Hurley was asked to wrap up.

[mike1963]

11. Mad. Albright starting just now

n/t

[chelsea0011]

10. So Hurley starts talking about Bush and is told to cut it short????

He spends 35 minutes about the Clinton years and after five minutes on Bush, he is told to end it??????????????

[robbedvoter]

12. Albright - all smiling, in a black suit (for radio audiences)

Took the oath - starting tstimony

[chelsea0011]

13. That's one giant flag of jewelry

[robbedvoter]

15. yeah, how did I miss that? ;-)

Hostory is lived forward and read backwards. Talkes about Tanzania.

[librechik]

16. Nice shot, Madeleine!

we have a right to display patriotism just like the RWers--only more so, now!

(Madeleine's giant flag brooch, worn on the left shoulder)

[indigo32]

18. Madeleine Albright is tough

go Maddy.

[CatWoman]

28. Madeline always wears the most beautiful pins and accessories.

[goclark]

43. Class Act Madeline!

I admire her so much.

I loved her opening remarks. She is so compassionate and you could feel how she handled her job with energy AND compassion.

She went directly to the terrorist site in Africa ---and brought the American bodies home!

Did I hear that right? Did she do what Powell has never tried to do,show absolute compassion for brave Americans who gave their lives for our country.

She is smooth and talks openly and honestly IMO.
The pin is just awesome and is worn with such dignity. She makes me proud again to be an American.


You Go Girl!
:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[RedSock]

14. cspan schedule

someone said cspan coverage will end at 10am. however, looking at the various cspan schedules, it may switch over to cspan3. not sure though.


Tuesday, March 23, 2004

9:00 - 9:30 AM
STAFF STATEMENT NO. 5
Diplomacy

9:30 - 11:00 AM
The Honorable Madeleine K. Albright
Former Secretary of State

11:00 - 12:30 PM
The Honorable Colin L. Powell
Secretary of State

12:30 - 1:30 PM
Break

1:30 - 2:00 PM
STAFF STATEMENT NO. 6
The Military

2:00 - 3:30 PM
The Honorable William S. Cohen
Former Secretary of Defense

3:30 - 5:00 PM
The Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld
Secretary of Defense



Wednesday, March 24 2004

8:30 - 9:00 AM
STAFF STATEMENT NO. 7
Intelligence Policy

9:00 - 10:30 AM
The Honorable George J. Tenet
Director of Central Intelligence

10:30 - 11:00 AM
STAFF STATEMENT NO. 8
National Policy Coordination

11:00 - 12:30 PM
The Honorable Samuel R. Berger
Former Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs

12:30 - 1:30 PM
BREAK

1:30 - 4:00 PM
Mr. Richard A. Clarke
Former National Coordinator for Counterterrorism, National Security Council

4:00 - 5:30 PM
The Honorable Richard L. Armitage
Deputy Secretary of State

5:30 PM
Hearing concludes. Press Availability to follow.

[Mattforclark]

17. Everyone except Clarke is "honorable"

The Honorable Samuel R. Berger

... etc

Mr. Richard A. Clarke

...

Interesting.

[qanda]

19. I heard Peter say that their coverage will go until 12:30

That's when the House begins its session.

[librechik]

20. ACK! did you see those 2 committee members talking and laughing?!!

while Madeleine is speaking??!!!

Very Funny Guys! 3000 people dead! Ha Ha!

jackasses...This commission is a ridiculous hoax.

[goclark]

75. Who were the jerks? n/t

[librechik]

79. Ben Veniste and Thompson, I think n/t

[ElsewheresDaughter]

21. Albright and the other man were sworn in (under oath) will Powell be ?

I sure as hell hope so

[grannylib]

80. He had better be...all of the Chimpco admin asswipes should testify

under oath, particularly Chimpy hisself...

[robbedvoter]

23. We were not attacked by a noun - "terrorism" - we were attacked by

individuals. It's them we need to pursue. If we broaden our scope uneccessary, we endanger our security
Continues saying that AlQuaeda is not a finite number of criminals.

[indigo32]

24. that was her best line

IMO

[robbedvoter]

25. Stuck it to the bushes. Questions now

Comission member holds Clarke's book, mentions attacks back and forth - hopes it will not be partizan - hopes Condi will reconsider and come to testify - applause
Asks Albright about her book account of Tanzania

[CatWoman]

26. whoa!!

Roemer just called out Condi Rice!!!

[librechik]

29. did he ever! I wish he'd added "under oath"--like Madeleine is!

When Condi refuses, it will be like a confession. Go TIM!

He held up Clarke's book and said that grave accusations had been made, and Condi had denied them. Will she defend herself? Not bloody likely...

[maddezmom]

30. I'm stunned...wants her to reconsider and testify tomorrow

[kentuck]

32. Richard Armitage to replace Rice before the Commission

<snip>
Scheduled to testify Wednesday are CIA director George Tenet; Rice's predecessor, Clinton national security adviser Sandy Berger; and a new witness added Tuesday to fill Rice's slot, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage. On that day, the panel will review intelligence and national policy coordination.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040323/D81G48D80.html

[suegeo]

Armitage has a history of lying to congress

Back when Reagan's boys were on their crime spree ala Iran Contra, Armitage lied under oath while testifying before congress.

Senator (?) Eagleberger caught him in his lie and said to Armitage something like "that's slammer time, sir."

I have the exchange between the two somewhere. If I find it, I'll add it to this thread.

Armitage is a skunk. A lying stinky skunk.

[MetaTrope]

78. Whoa, and Powell was right there with him!

I never knew that. This is like Iran/Contra 2004.

http://independence.net/irancontra/

Contrary to their testimony to the presidentially appointed Tower Commission and the Select Iran/contra Committees of Congress, Independent Counsel determined that Secretary Weinberger and his closest aides were consistently informed of proposed and actual arms shipments to Iran during 1985 and 1986. The key evidence was handwritten notes of Weinberger, which he deliberately withheld from Congress and the OIC until they were discovered by Independent Counsel in late 1991. The Weinberger daily diary notes and notes of significant White House and other meetings contained highly relevant, contemporaneous information that resolved many questions left unanswered in early investigations.

The notes demonstrated that Weinberger's early testimony -- that he had only vague and generalized information about Iran arms sales in 1985 -- was false, and that he in fact had detailed information on the proposed arms sales and the actual deliveries. The notes also revealed that Gen. Colin Powell, Weinberger's senior military aide, and Richard L. Armitage, assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs, also had detailed knowledge of the 1985 shipments from Israeli stocks. Armitage and Powell had testified that they did not learn of the November 1985 HAWK missile shipment until 1986.

So Powell's under oath again today...so what?

[indigo32]

27. Uh Oh

somebodies dissin Condi
:nopity:

[robbedvoter]

31. Roemer: Shouldn't have Bushco have taken the same measures as

Clinton took after Tanzania? meaning military, diplomatic, intelligence - the whole array

[Ksec]

33. Powell and Bush wont be under oath . Part of the deal

Can you believe this shit?

[maddezmom]

35. what is the point of having them testify, just more spin?

:wtf:

[Ksec]

54. Yep. Good Americans like bush want to be able to lie on the stand.

[maddezmom]

84. Powell was sworn in

so that just leaves bush and condi....who have the need to lie or evade the truth.

[burythehatchet]

34. I'm starting to think that this commission may actually have an effect

but I'm sure that feeling will pass.

[leftchick]

82. whitewash...

after seeing kean and hamilton this am on the talk shows, I am convinced it will be a whitewash... :(

[robbedvoter]

36. Did you brief Powell, Rice on OBL - what was their reaction?

Roemer asked Albright. "Yes, we did" What was his reaction?" She believes Powell understood.

[goclark]

72. With A "M"

With a "M"
With a "A"
With a "D"

With a M a d a l i n e!

You go girl, you're my hero!



:hug: :loveya:

[chelsea0011]

37. USS Cole....a lame duck President had no choice

It are the Bushies who used the info gained in Dec. to sit and do nothing. Clinton always gets blamed for a do-nothing approach to the Cole.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

38. USS Cole bombed in what oct/nov 2000? it was bush*s call to do something!

[Catherine Vincent]

39. When these commision members speak, the tv should

show what party affiliation they are. But I'm sure we'll be able to tell which is a republican.

[robbedvoter]

41. They did say Roemer was Indians rep -D. Not with Raygun guy.

I think he is trying to blame Clinton.

[robbedvoter]

40. Raygun navy secretary asking - John lehman -

What was the status of intelligence when you took over? (Poppy's?)

[robbedvoter]

42. Lehman tries for the OBL- Iraqi connection - Madeline doesn't bite

"with or without Saddam's knowledge"

[DenverDem]

44. When Clinton tried to do anything against al CIAda the rethugs slammed him

for trying to change the focus from their attack on his penis.

[underpants]

48. He did more than try he stated it as fact

What is he talking about?

He said that there were numerous contacts between Iraqi secret Service/intelligence and alQaeda....I've never heard anything about that. Did he just make a jump from the assassination attempt to the Embassy bombings?

[teach1st]

45. Lehman rambling... NT

[Richardo]

46. "The President's uhhhhhhhh uhhhh uhhhhhhh uhhhh uhhhhhh uhhh"

...uhhhhh uhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhhhh (referring to penis impeachment). :eyes:

[PaDUer]

47. Bob Kerrey--

"it's very nice to see you again"...Yes, the team w/ dignity.

[maddezmom]

49. he's being a real ass

don't mind the line of questioning, but seems to be grandstanding quite a bit.

[berner59]

50. He's critical....

Thinking that if he's this fiesty against his friends...what he'll be like against Bush's guys...

Albright still didn't back down - plus she keeps bringing up the pre-9/11 mindset...

[maddezmom]

53. you're probably correct

if he's this nasty now, wait till he gets a hold of Rummy.

[kentuck]

58. The pre-9/11 mindset.....

Very important point by Albright. It was difficult to get any Congressional support from the Repubs at that time. It was 'wag the dog', etc....

[revcarol]

51. What I caught was that we should have bombed everything,

even without evidence or targets. Should I thank God he is no longer a Senator?

[robbedvoter]

52. Bob kerrey wanted his war with Afghanistan. Pissed we went in Kosovo

Attacked Clinton more that all the pukes in the commission. Thanks buddy. I really wonder what you did in Vietnam now that forced you our of the senate, rat bastard! Kosovo was not a threat - was a humanitarian problem, buit to a war criminal like you that is meaningless! :argh:

[Ksec]

56. Isnt Kerrey a Dem? WTF is he on?

[robbedvoter]

59. He is also a war criminal. he wanted his war and didn't get it - not

bnecause of Kosovo - but because of Bill Cohen - GOP - who was the SOD. kerrey was opposed to Clinton a lot. Good riddance!

[teach1st]

55. Albright: We couldn't get options out of the Pentagon NT

[robbedvoter]

57. Gorelick - Clinton's Atty gen assistant asks how did she feel about

the option to go in Afghanistan when DOD refused (that would be Bill Cohen - the guy who fired Wes Clark from NATO)

[teach1st]

60. Albright: Difficult to watch...

..the Bush administration dismantle our programs.

[Malva Zebrina]

61. this sounds to me like an indictment of Clinton

this is awful--it is as if they are investigating 9-11 as the fault of Clinton. This is a highly political committee. They are out for Clinton's blood or any one else they think they can blame the tragedy that is Bush, on.

[RedSock]

62. wow

this guy thompson is a major bushbot!

clenis alert!!!!!!!!!!

[Catherine Vincent]

63. I would get upset at this Thompson guy but I know it's early.

It seems he wants to blame the Clinton people but I think it's because he's talking to a Clinton person. We'll see if he is the same with the Bush people.

[DustMolecule]

64. Albright is doing a wonderful job.....

reminding the commission to 'learn lessons' rather than lay blame (i.e., at the feet of Clinton).

[BlueStateGirl]

67. It's really aggravating..

I remember these assholes screaming "Wag the Dog". I remember the way the attacked him for those cruise missle strikes.

Lack of military action? GMAB. How much support do you think these scumbags wuold have given President Clinton had he chosen to pursue that option. They would have accused him of starting a war to protect his penis.

Fucking scumbags.

[Vadem]

65. Have you noticed the 9/11 Widows on the front row, left side? n/t

[proud patriot]

66. I just have to say I think Albright was great

:D

[RedSock]

69. you're right

with a clinton official, it'll be focused on him.
she can't talk about what bush did.

now powell on ... so we'll see how tough they get

UNDER OATH!

yeah!

[PaDUer]

74. Under oath...

but they'll still LIE their butts off!

[underpants]

"We were more often criticised for over reacting not under reacting"

She repeatedly stated that they must remember to put themselves in the pre-9/11 state of mind.

Indeed there was widespread outrage when Clinton not only deployed military forces but when he dared set foot on a military base...add in "wag the dog" accusaitons.

[Vadem]

68. Powell and Armitage on now. Will they be sworn in? Yes!!!!

Just sworn in under oath!

[Sparkly]

71. Will Powell turn into "Miss Thing?"

Jon Stewart pointed out that Powell turns into Miss Thing lately when asked questions ("don't go there, talk to the hand..."). He's now known as Secretary of Thang in my house.

[ellie]

70. OK. Powell

was just sworn in. I feel a little bit better.

[slinkerwink]

76. same here too

[revcarol]

73. Didn't have enough evidence to lay bombing of Cole

at feet of al Qaeda (before Clinton left office.) Good job, Madeline. We shouldn't go off half cocked on these serious matters. It WAS up to Bush to take action when HE had the evidence.

[greenbriar]

77. he is going to be

babied...

[Blue-Jay]

81. Holy Crap!

He's admitting to being briefed on terrorism by none other than Richard Clarke!

I guess that lends our dear Mr Clark some credibility, eh?

[Vadem]

83. Admits extensive briefings by Clinton admin. and thanks

Albright and others for them during the transition.

[leftchick]

85. ROFLMAO!!!...

that picture!!! :)

[Kong]

86. Powell Is Just Another Whore

Don't forget it.

Powell is just another whore, no more and no less.

He is beginning with a statement covering his own ass, telling how much he was doing. The point is that the fuggin' chimp was the one doing absolutly nothing.

[teach1st]

87. Powell: We were not given a counter-terrorism action plan...

by the previous administration.

Did I hear that correctly?

[leftchick]

90. hmmm... Will Sandy Berger and Richard Clarke...

refute that little gem?

[ellie]

88. When will

Presidents Gore and Clinton testify? Does anyone know?

[leftchick]

97. their testimony will be done privately..

this week with unlimited questioning period.

[ThirdWheelLegend]

89. Powell sure is using a lot of words to say... nothing.

Why are they just letting him read some prepared babble speech?

TWL

[indigo32]

91. Ya know...

that is exactly what I was thinking.
He isn't saying ANYTHING really

[Sparkly]

96. blahblahblah

We knew the threat, the president wrote to Musharaf, we had to eliminate them not just fire and miss, didn't get a specific plan from previous administration, blah blah blah...

I want somebody to ask about ALL of the administration's dealings with the Taliban.

I want somebody to ask whether the FBI was asked to halt their oversight of Saudis in the US suspected of being terrorists.

I want somebody to ask what they did with the recommendations of the Hart-Rudman report before 9/11, if anything.

[DemonFighterLives]

131. Exactly

I don't remember when I heard someone blab so much and say basically nothing new. Even when asked to speed up he took 15 more minutes to wrap up. I am now doubtful about this hearing getting anywhere. No important questions even asked yet! :boring: :boring:

[Spazito]

92. I have to admit, I ONCE had respect for Powell...

and to see and hear what he has become is saddening. I now listen to him with the same lack of respect and know that he no longer, if he ever did, knows how to tell the truth, he has no moral compass.

[MetaTrope]

100. See my post #78 above about Powell

:smoke:

[BlueStateGirl]

93. Wow. That letter is pretty impressive,

considering Shrub had only recently been briefed on exactly who Musharraf was.

[chelsea0011]

98. And he congratulated him on a return to civilian constitutional authority

What military coup?

[Sparkly]

105. Of course

Shrub didn't write that letter. "...Pakistan is a country with which we hope to..." -- that's much too grammatically correct to be the writing of a chimp. The "concerns" about the Taliban was probably more about getting their pipeline through Afghanistan than about Al Qaeda.

Actually, they let him try the first draft of the letter, but because it began by asking Musharaf if he wanted to be penpals, they turned the job over to Condi...

[BlueStateGirl]

107. LOL!

[chelsea0011]

94. Let me update Powell so far

Our policy was an abysmal failure

[TahitiNut]

95. Powell Statement: Facade, Bafflegarb, Slight-of-Hand, Dancing

This is unbelievable. He's sending up a snowstorm of bullshit, making inaction sound like action. For example, he listed a number of key players they incoming madministration "retained"... as though ignoring people in roles not considered immediately profitable for global corporatists was some kind of "action." The truth is they didn't give a shit. It was back-burnered in favor of "going for the gold." Even treating Graham-Rudman as toilet paper and superficially re-intiatating a whole new study was obfuscatory bullshit -- a delay while their energy and petrochemical buddies were splitting up the contents of the federal cookie jar.

[RedSock]

101. wrap it up

kean urging bowel to wrap it up.

[underpants]

102. He is just restating the points Condi made yesterday

eliminate not roll back

Focused form early on

The PRESIDENT was very focused.

[leftchick]

104. he was focused all right....

"fuck saddam, we're taking him out!" :grr:

[revcarol]

127. He just said that they wanted Musharraf to join the CRUSADE

We are DEAD for sure in the Muslim world. Those that weren't believing the extremist Muslim line about everything being a crusade now have the administration's words AGAIN that this is a crusade.

I fear for the world.

[AZCat]

99. Powell Recap: Clinton didn't do all our work for us

So he's to blame for our failure to prevent 9/11.

Am I getting this right? Powell keeps on harping on this absence of a viable operation plan...

What bullshit.

[RedSock]

108. time limit

does bowel think that the longer he blabs now, the fewer questions he'll have to answer. ... hoping for the bell that ends class and he can run away .......

[chelsea0011]

"A new,very complicated form of diplomacy" Powell

You peons wouldn't understand. This is hard stuff. Is he serious? you are right. He is making it sound like they were actually doing anything.

[ThirdWheelLegend]

103. Ok Colin, we get it, you wanted to have dinner in Pakistan...

Why did we invade Iraq?

TWL

[underpants]

110. Ready made soundbite:"We did everything we could....

top save the lives of Americans aorund the world."

expect to see that one played over and over.

[BlueStateGirl]

106. So, is he just going to ramble on until they run out of time???

Hey, asshat.... if the strategy called for more then just launcing cruise missles....why didn't you avenge the attack on the USS Cole???

[PaDUer]

111. That's what I've been thinking..

run the clock out! It's as if they're allowing him to run the show..read the notes, end it, then he's out of there!

[BlueStateGirl]

114. Is he going to list all seven points?? Shut up and answer some questions!

[ThirdWheelLegend]

109. Oh you warned people about threats? 9/11?

What a fucking sick joke.

And can I be the first to say, SHUT UP ALREADY and answer some questions.

TWL

[underpants]

115. Just said policy review all came together on 9/4 it was solid......

It took us 8 months but it was a good plan and we made everyone aware of what we were going to do......

Powell Powell Powell why are you lying for them again?

[Sparkly]

112. "Solid Eight Months of Work"

Including the many lengthy vacations in August that prevented them from even having a meeting about counterterrorism strategy??

[underpants]

121. Mentioned 8 months AGAIN-when 9/11 hit we were ready...

uh I thought they were ready and FOCUSED the whole time....or should have been

This sounds like a dollar late and a dollar short to many people I would suppose.

[Catherine Vincent]

123. I hear Powell but he's not saying anything.

Oh good he's finished now. Thank God.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

113. chairman:" ah mr. powell we are gonna run out of time"...powell: "ok just

let me say...."and he goes on for 15/20....25? more minutes! and is still talking!!! WTF

[Sparkly]

116. Shaddap!!!!

I wish somebody would sound a gong.

[RedSock]

119. outside the country

yeah that's why the August 6 memo was titled

BIN LADEN TO STRIKE IN US

[leftchick]

120. run out the clock....

I think he is trying to run out the clock so to not to have to lie too many times...

[DustMolecule]

117. Oh for God's Sake!

Cut him off already! (Where's Billy Crystal when you need him! ;-)

[ThirdWheelLegend]

118. Your strategy was ready for AFTER 9/11?

WTF kinda spin is this bullshit.

Oh and once again, shut up already.

TWL

[underpants]

126. Did Clarke present a NEW plan in the first 7 months?

or was he working on the plan that came together on 9/4 and wasthere any calls to do something NOW in the mean time.



Armitrage:Clarke was impatient and pushing the process quite well.

[ThirdWheelLegend]

134. Yes Armitrage just dissed Powell

So Clarke was very important in creating counter-terrorism ideas, or we can go back to yesterday where the admin called hima disgruntled unqualified baby.

TWL

[BlueStateGirl]

122. More with Iraq??? STFU. puppet.

[deutsey]

124. Yea! He finally shut up!

:bounce:

[Sparkly]

125. First question (Thompson) casts aspersions on CLARKE!!!!

Unbelievable!!!!

[RedSock]

128. armitage

is he wearing an inflatible suit or what?

[chelsea0011]

129. Hi I'm John Thompson and I'm here to protect the Crooked Administration

This guy is clearly not really looking to get to the bottom of 9-11.

[Sparkly]

No lack of communication or data

So what about the FBI memos? What about the Hart-Rudman report? What about warnings in daily briefings? What about warnings from other countries? They met and discussed all that, and what did they do???

[BlueStateGirl]

130. This is a joke. Is this for show? Or are these commission memebers really

more interested in attacking Clarke, and passing blame around than they are in truly investigating what happened? This is bullshit.

We all deserve more than this partisan dog and pony show.

[RedSock]

132. wtf?

bushbot thompson asking bowell to talk about terrorism starting in 1991?

i.e., feel free to babble until your time is up.

[underpants]

143. He's only off by a decade-Notice Powell mentioning China and Russia

This plays into what Clarke said about them being transfixed on old Cold War issues and strategies.

[Vadem]

133. Thompson is trying to get Bush1 off the hook by asking...

about 1991, whether more principal's meetings in 1991 would have prevented 9/11.

[Catherine Vincent]

137. What about meetings before 1991?

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

135. Is this Powell Fillibustering?

Arghh _ I'm at work. What's going on?

[Spazito]

136. Don't ya love it when Powell says, in clarification...

"We had no NEW plan". Doesn't that back up Clarke when he said his plan was thrown back as "wrong answer" do again! The only NEW plan that was acceptable to them was one that was a plan to go after Saddam and Iraq.

[tandot]

145. I am at work and following the posts

Didn't Powell say that they didn't get a plan from the Clinton administration to beginn with? Or am I mistaken.

So, according to Powell, they started with zero and just left it at that?

[Spazito]

151. In answer to a question from the panel, he clarified that they..

had no NEW plan, if I heard correctly.

[TheDonkey]

138. I was hoping Colin would whip out pics of al-Qaeda's mobile weapons labs

and show tabloid shots of Bin Laden, Clinton and Saddam at a nude beach.

[chelsea0011]

139. Powell says the Middle East was high on the list ???%$^$#

I guess Paul O'Neil, who stated Bush in the very first security meeting wanted Palistine and Israel to fight it out amoung themselves and not get in the middle,was also, along with Clarke, hallucinating.

[leftchick]

147. remember in June when bombs were going off all over in Isreal...

and Palestine? chimp did NOTHING!

[revcarol]

140. PLEASE START THREAD 2

hARD FOR DIALUP FOLKS.

[underpants]

146. Yes Please do

:thumbsup:

[leftchick]

141. is this repuke thompsen giving powell a blow job?

or what... sheesh! :grr:

[BlueStateGirl]

142. WTF does this have to do with anything now???

I wonder if Thompson could lick Powell's ass a little more??

[Catherine Vincent]

144. Jabooty?

Where is that?

[dennis4868]

148. I was wrong....

I really thought this 911 Independent Commission was truly independent and trying to get the FACTS. But after watching C-SPAN this morning I know it is not so we will never get the truth.

[ThirdWheelLegend]

149. He just said they needed to focus on alqaida after 9/11...

So he mentioned Afghanistan and the Taliban. Never mentioned Iraq, so why did we invade Iraq? Why didn't anyone ask that?

TWL

[indigo32]

150. Locking

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