March 23, 2004: the day democracy died

[shooga]

anyone else getting a sickening feeling in the stomach that the "panel" will sweep this all under the rug??


March 23, 2004: the day democracy died

[bif]

1. The day democracy died is when the Ssupreme Court

Installed this bastard in office.

[tom_paine]

16. At the very least it was the day Democracy was sorely wounded

The jury is still out on whether the wound was mortal.

[MadProphetMargin]

2. What else is new? Remember the Warren Commission? Iran/Contra?

[buycitgo]

3. amen howdy on this!

I just emailed bitchkitty, proprietor of bushbodycount, saying how disgusted I am so far, and now, after seeing your header, I think I'll send another one, suggesting that USA should be added!

what do you think?

[MadProphetMargin]

6. Yep. The corruption goes straight to the bone. WE are a rogue nation.

We have WMDs, and have used them in the past.

We invade other nations on the slimmest of pretexts.

We have "troubled" elections.

We have a concentration camp.

[Vickers]

22. Damn. Your post scares me.

Because it's true.

Damn.

[MadProphetMargin]

28. Yep. We woke up one day, and our republic has turned rogue.

WTF? How did THAT happen?

MPM,
Knows the answer, but doesn't want to face it.

[Nashyra]

4. The hope of this country now firmly in the hands

of the widow that is sueing the administration for the death of her husband. Those that are wounded most will be the hope of getting back our Democracy.

[MadProphetMargin]

7. Um, no. Think 1968-1972.

[RoundRockD]

5. Whatever made me think that the members of the panel would not play

politics with 9/11. This panel is a joke. If I hear one more person say, "But there hasn't been an attack on the US for over two years" I will scream. It's as if attacks on the US were common before 9/11. Am I crazy? I don't understand the logic in that statement.

[MadProphetMargin]

8. Are you somehow amazed? Suprised? This is just as rich as Ashcroft &

Arnie offering to "investigate themselves".

[RoundRockD]

11. I'm embarrassed to say that I am surprised. Won't happen again.

[MadProphetMargin]

13. Welcome to the post-American century. Check your

self-respect, national pride, and liberties at the door.

Thank you, citizen!

[tom_paine]

17. Unfortunately, I remember them all too well

And yes, initial report indicate that this might be very similar.

Do the Democrats ever learn?

[MadProphetMargin]

18. Nope. We expect that everyone loves justice. NEWSFLASH:

They don't.

[MSgt213]

9. Don't expect a republican controlled commission to indict Bush

[MadProphetMargin]

10. Ya think? LOL!

[swag]

12. I don't know what you expected from these hearings, but

I don't think it's going as badly as you say.

Powell and Armitage have both contradicted Cheney's and Rice's public statements.

There are a couple of other folks coming before the committee, including Richard Clarke. His testimony should be quite interesting.

Sorry to be so blind and ignorant, but what exactly do you think will be swept under the rug?

[MadProphetMargin]

15. The whole thing. Again, think back on the

Warren Commission and the Iran/Contra hearings.

Nothing will be done.

[swag]

19. Please also recall the Watergate hearings

That was pretty dull until John Dean testified.

[MadProphetMargin]

20. Yep. But you also have to remember that the GOP wanted Nixon gone, too.

This is not exactly analogous.

[swag]

21. Okay, I have to ask again

Just what do you think the purpose of this hearing/this commission is?

And please support the assertion that GOP wanted Nixon gone. That is not how I recall it.

[MadProphetMargin]

24. The purpose? Easy:

Smoke and mirrors. Same as Iran/contra.

As for Nixon, I seem to remember the GOP in congress demanding his resignation, and threatening to impeach in lieu of it. They felt that he had endangered the party, with nothing to gain from it.

This time, there's plenty to gain.

[swag]

25. GOP certainly wasn't demanding Nixon out before Dean

testified. Check the record.

Iran/Contra hearings were a bad joke, I agree, because of the impotence of certain senators, but this commission isn't doing too badly. Honestly, I think they just want to shine a little light on what the hell went wrong, and I think Richard Ben-Veniste, among others, is being pretty damned good in his questioning.

You seem to think this is some sort of impeachment hearing. Couldn't disagree more. And I don't think this committee is going to help GW Bush very much.

[MadProphetMargin]

27. Sorry that took so long, I was reviewing transcripts. You are 100%

correct. My memory seems to be going in my ancient, decrepit state. :D

[swag]

29. No problemo

I am so rarely 100% correct, that I think I'll celebrate by having soup for lunch.

Best to you.

[MadProphetMargin]

30. LOL! Enjoy.

[AP]

14. It died on Election Day 2000.

[DemBones DemBones]

23. I'm another who thinks our democracy ended 12/12/ 2000,

killed by SCOTUS.

[swag]

26. Well, we've got to get it back, then, don't we?

[DeepModem Mom]

31. Didn't Max Cleland say he quit the panel because he knew...

nothing of value was going to come from it? Listening so far, I fear he may be right --