Bush says workers can be fired for being gay.

[terrya]

I'll let this speak for itself. I'm sorry if someone else has already posted this story.

/www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/Read.asp?fn=df03202004.html

[Catfight]

1. I'm sure the Bu$h's gay friends appreciate this

according to Laura Bu$h, the Bu$hes gay friends welcome the debate and appreciate the discrimination.

[w4rma]

2. Gays appear to be the new Jews to the new Nazis. (nt)

[Andy_Stephenson]

5. Believe me we know...

and I for one am worried. Even some Democrats are jumping on board.

[Cat Atomic]

10. Gays were the new Jews to the OLD Nazi's, too.

Odd sentence, but you know what I mean.

Machismo + fascism = Fashismo!

[kayell]

16. I'm very afraid you are right

I've been saying this for awhile without getting much response, and wondering if everyone thought I was just paranoid. But you're not necessarily paranoid if they really are out to get you. :-(

The BFEE like every other totalitarian system, NEEDS a group to hate, fear and demonize. :scared: :mad:

[PROGRESSIVE1]

3. Simple Talking Point: "President George W. Bush is a BIGOT!!!"

[noiretextatique]

8. and he's appealing to other bigots

what's next: witch trials? reinstituting slavery?

[Bandit]

27. He is a bigot ~ That is a given but he will never be my President.

I will never refer to him as such. He is and always will be the pResident and I wish he would get out of Gore's house.

[BootinUp]

4. Is that true?

kinda shocked, that will get struck down by a federal court I am sure.

[Andy_Stephenson]

6. Which one? the SCOTUS

I doubt they will go against Whistle Ass.

[KinkyDem]

7. I doubt it

Fed's already lost their protection from discrimination for being gay.

No, this is bad.

[qwertyMike]

62. Come to Canada

where only (the few) bigots will bother you - NOT the Government.

Hetero Guy
Peace

[LDS Jock]

64. I've been thinking about just that

If Bush wins, I'm going to pursue going to Canada. I've had about enough.

[booley]

9. I bet there are ...

lots of chagrinned gay republicans and libertarians right now.

Protection from job discrimination is one of the rights even many opponents of same sex marriage say gays should have.

Of course, since Shrubbery has already lost any gay support he may have had, I guess he figures it can't hurt to shore up his religoue fanatic vote.

[MattBaggins]

32. Libertarians angry?

Since when do Libertarians give a rats behind about worker protection? If you don't like the way your employer treats you, find a new job or start your own business. You know that whole bootstrap thingy.

[BootinUp]

33. right, just had a conversation

I didn't know this, but the libertarian I talked to today couldn't give a rats ass, and is homophobic to the extreme.

[Touchdown]

11. And he's right.

There is no ENDA. It never got passed the Congress during Clinton, and Chimpy is certainly not going to vote for it, so yes, gay people can still be fired...in certain places.

States and municipalities do have anti-discrimination laws on their books.

[Andy_Stephenson]

12. There is no ENDA.

Right...and Clinton signed DOMA as well. Such forethought.

One of the reasons I admire Bill Clinton.

[sangh0]

13. Missing the point

As a matter of law, there is no protection for gays against discrimination. However, as Chief Executive of the Federal Govt, POTUS can issue an Executive Order prohibiting the discrimination of it's employees on the basis of sexual orientation. Bush* has chosen not to, and using the lack of an ENDA law to justify it. You may not have liked all of Clinton's actions, but he did protect gays who worked for the Federal govt.

Bush* has chosen to remove those protections.

[Andy_Stephenson]

14. Would that be like he ended discrimination

in the military with don't ask don't tell?

[Brian_Expat]

15. Don't bother, GBNC. . .

. . . people NEVER listen to this point, even though you're right. It's what opened up John Kerry to siding with Mitt Romney and George W. Bush on the Massachusetts anti-gay amendment and then blink in shock when we object. :(

[Andy_Stephenson]

17. "people NEVER listen to this point"

True enuf...but I will still talk about it on the off chance someone is listening.

I suppose I should just go to the camps quietly and not fight when they take me to the gas chamber.

[sangh0]

39. Well, some people never listen

gbnc, where did I say that Clinton ended discrimination against gays?

What I said was, he didn't increase it. Bush* is taking away some of the protections gay Fed workers have, a point you haven't commented on in your rush to criticize Dems.

You want to accuse me and others of not fighting, but you're the one being silent about the current abuses, while obsessing over events from years ago.

[Andy_Stephenson]

49. I am not silent!

I have been critical of this admin from the start! Just as I am critical of Dems that are wrong! DOMA and Don't ask don't tell increased discrimination. If not for the federal DOMA most states would not have DOMA's and there would be no problem today.

I worked hard to get Clinton elected...I am still pulling daggers out of my back for my effort.

[Karenina]

18. Ya know, Gbnc....

When that all went down, from my vantage point I, to this day, believe the Dog was so roundly broadsided due to HIS OWN BELIEF that the "issue" was simply stupid. Call it naive on his part and mine.

[Andy_Stephenson]

19. Ah the power of Veto...

but wasn't the election right around the corner? Oh wait...yes it was.

[Don Claybrook]

20. Am I reading this correctly?

Is this the real world or some bizarre dream I'm having?

I think I read that the Fed Gov can't fire homosexuals for "conduct", presumably homosexual conduct. But they can be fired, not for what they've done, but what they ARE? ("...have the legal right to fire or demote someone based on their sexual orientation")

So you can now be fired from your government position for BEING gay?

I'm straight, but I was born that way, just like gays are born with their sexual preference. And yes, I'm familiar with the stories that start, "first, they came for such-and-such group, and I didn't care, because I wasn't one of them. then, they came for the other group, and I ignored it. Now they're coming for me".

I hope this serves as a wake-up call for all of us, straight and gay. They're after us. And to the gay community at DU, yes, I know I'm a day late and a dollar short, but please mark me as awake and alarmed as of right now.

[Andy_Stephenson]

22. Then wear the pink triangle in solidarity

with us...I have never been afraid of being gay...not even in Texas...I am now.

[VelmaD]

34. Get me a pink triangle honey...

and I'll sew it on. I'm not letting them take your ass without a fight.

[geniph]

41. Count me in on that, too

If we're all wearing pink triangles, who can they take? (q.v., King of Denmark and yellow stars)

[VelmaD]

43. I had forgotten all about the Danes.

What a great idea. It'll be like the big, nation-wide version of that scene in "In and Out" where pretty much everyone in town announces they're gay. :)

This could turn into a mission.

[Karenina]

36. " Is this the real world or some bizarre dream I'm having?"

I asked myself that when the gub'mint outed and fired qualified Arabic translators for being gay. I sat here thinking :freak: :freak: :freak:
Kinda makes ya wanna scream, "WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? Has your petty bigotry rendered you permanently STUPID?" Then we see the answer all around us... :argh:

[Az]

21. By that logic can straight people be fired for being straight?

Just asking.

[Andy_Stephenson]

23. No

because they need to have kids to feed to the war machine.

[noiretextatique]

24. and because bush is depending on their votes

at least the ones who will applaud this bigotry.

[polmaven]

31. I'm heterosexual, but single and childless

I guess that would leave me unprotected from being fired too.

BTW...I hate the term "straight". Makes it sound more like homosexuals are "bent", or warped".

[sangh0]

40. Yes, heterosexuals can be fired for being heterosexual

The law does NOT prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

[Andy_Stephenson]

47. Oh I would love to see that stick

It'll never happen.

[Richardo]

25. I was just about to post this...strike three for any remaining LCRs.

Log Cabin Republicans.

There it is in black and white, boys and girls! Recant NOW, support Dems, and go back to the GOP when these criminal bastards are rotting in jail or the cold cold ground.

[Don Claybrook]

26. Did you notice WHO is doing this?

From the article in the Federal Times referenced by misleader.org:

http://federaltimes.com/index.php?S=2727185

At the bottom of the article:

"Before he was nominated as special counsel, Bloch was deputy director of the Justice Department’s Task Force for Faith-based and Community Initiatives."

[terrya]

35. I don't believe it. I...I...

This defies belief. Seriously.

That this administration would condone employment discrimination solely on the basis of sexual orientation...and the person behind this was affiliated with the Faith Based Initiative program??

Unfuckingbeliable.

Terry

[Az_lefty]

28. Incredible..

what ever happened to "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness"?
:shrug:

[Bread and Circus]

29. Wow, this is one of the worst things I've heard. I can't believe it's true

Yet here's the caption from the daily mislead:

"Bush Allows Gays to Be Fired for Being Gay


Despite President Bush's pledge that homosexuals "ought to have the same rights" 1 as all other people, his Administration this week ruled that homosexuals can now be fired from the federal workforce because of their sexual orientation.

According to the Federal Times, the president's appointee at the Office of Special Counsel ruled that federal employees will now "have no recourse if they are fired or demoted simply for being gay." 2 While the Bush Administration says it is legally prohibited from firing a person for their conduct, they have the legal right to fire or demote someone based on their sexual orientation. To carry out the directive, the White House has begun removing information from government websites about sexual orientation discrimination in the workplace. 3

Not only does the new directive contradict the president's own promise to treat homosexuals as equals under the law, but it also contradicts what the Administration told Congress. As noted in a bipartisan letter from four Senators to the Administration, "During the confirmation process , you assured us that you were committed to protecting federal employees against unlawful discrimination related to their sexual orientation." 4

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My summary:
Bush is a sick bastard and a fascist nazi.

[Rockholm]

30. Bush Is An Ass.

[0007]

37. Does that mean the people of Texas can fire Rick Perry?

I think junior should do the Christian thing and ask Captain Good hair to resign. junior should say, shame shame shame you're a disgrace to the great State Of Texas.

[Droopy]

38. Words escape me

It is amazing how ignorant people still are in regards to gay rights. After reading this story and one in LBN about black pastors saying pretty much the same thing, it shows me how unevolved we still are in America. These are truly heart breaking stories.

[geniph]

42. The lines are drawn

these people want war. They want us dead.

[liberalhistorian]

44. Substitute the word

"Jews" for "gays" and you'll understand exactly what's happening right now, the same thing that was happening in Germany in the early 1930's.

Gradually implement and tighten up the discrimination against a group or certain groups (then it was Jews, in this case it's gays), (like slowly boiling a lobster) and do it in a way that it isn't immediately noticeable to the general public and won't ring the necessary alarm bells.

Then, by the time people realize what's really happening, it's too damned late to do anything about it. Nice to see Shrub learned his lessons well from grandaddy Prescott "The Nazis Helped Make Me My Fortune" Bush. Hopefully, we'll have learned our lesson from history well enough to be able to stop this madness before it gets to the point of no return.

[Andy_Stephenson]

45. We won't

I am ashamed...perhaps a reprogramming regime is in order. Perhaps they can make me "straight"?

[liberalhistorian]

46. That's such bullshit,

that whole "reprogramming" shit. I said this in the other thread, and I'll say it again here: if worse comes to worse, and they forcibly come after gays and round them up, I will be one of the first to shelter as many as I can however I can. And I have a lot of family and friends who will do the same.

[MadProphetMargin]

50. Right on, brother (err...or sister) but you'd better be a little quieter

about it, or you will function more as a "honeypot".

Speak out, by all means, speak your mind...except when it comes to that, as mentioning it is self-defeating should things go that far.

[MadProphetMargin]

48. SEND ZEM EEEEEEEEEEEEAST! Ugh. What's next, pink triangles on

their camp uniforms?

Bush needs to GO.

[robertpaulsen]

51. THIS IS SERIOUS!

The writing is very clearly on the wall. First homosexuals, then Arabs, then liberals, then anyone else who disagrees off to Gitmo or a concentration camp near you! Perhaps I've got the order wrong, but I think I've the captured the spirit of "compassionate conservatism" as promoted by Bush, Cheney, Hannity, Coulter and this faith-based Blochhead who is turning the law on its head. If Bush steals the White House again, we're toast.

I'd like to nominate Bloch as one of the top five conservative idiots for this week. His ugly name needs to be shouted from the rooftops so the world knows what a disgusting bigot he is.

[Andy_Stephenson]

52. One word...

Diebold.

[MadProphetMargin]

53. Word in response.

Revolution.

Well, somebody had to say it...

[robertpaulsen]

54. Amen to that.

Anybody got a liberation front, I'll be ready November 3.

[MadProphetMargin]

55. There ain't gonna be a "front". That's a good way to get

squashed.

[robertpaulsen]

56. Damn. You got a point.

But whether we go underground or take it to the streets the day after the phony votes are Diebolded, the Thief has got to go!

[MadProphetMargin]

57. Of course. We owe it to good old Thomas Jefferson, and

Ben Franklin. Hell, they're probably spinning in their graves right now.

We could use Ben right now, the nasty old pervert. :D

[Andy_Stephenson]

58. "nasty old pervert"

Just my kinda guy :)

[MadProphetMargin]

60. Yep. Franklin was dirty and hairy, and covered with fleas, and he took

his women by twos and by threes.

Where the hell do I get this shit?

Nonsense, of course. He was a respectable guy...except during lightning storms. Then he went all to pieces. :D

[Sophree]

63. It's very serious

The talk show Nazis have been saying that liberalism is a disease, a mental illness. F*cking scary $hit.

[MadProphetMargin]

65. They've said worse than that. See Hannity's new book?

We are being equated with criminals and terrorists, in plain English.

Paranoia is no longer possible.

[Sophree]

67. You're right.

I have seen that. How does Alan Colmes let Hannity get away with that outrage?????

[MadProphetMargin]

68. Because Colmes is a sissy.

EOS.

[Sophree]

59. They are going after ALL "undesireables"

The RAVE Act passed quietly without much notice and is being used to intimidate Drug Policy Reform advocates and prevent gatherings of like-minded individuals. Hippies suck, don't ya know?

Howard Stearn.

Gays and lesbians.

People who speak out against *.

People who belong to 2 or more of these groups of "undesireables"- look out. I've already had one hard drive virused beyond repair- and I know that was just the beginning.

[MadProphetMargin]

61. Me, too. I'm on hard drive #4...but of course, I have a bad habit of

trolling republican sites.

[Sophree]

66. It wasn't even my computer

Which makes it even worse. :(

I don't troll right-wing websites. I know it's my outspokenness. But I REFUSE to be silenced.

:kick:

[MadProphetMargin]

69. I do. I kinda like to make them foam at the mouth. It's a sickness, I

know...BUT GAWD, I JUST CAN'T HELP MYSELF! :D

[Sophree]

71. Very bad.

:spank: ;-)

[MadProphetMargin]

72. I'm not bad! I'm an ADDICT! I CAN'T HELP MYSELF!

:)

[Deja Q]

70. What's the Ambassador to Romania going to do then?

He's gay.

[Andy_Stephenson]

73. So is Bush...

Google

"George Bush, Victor Ashe, Gay"

[MadProphetMargin]

74. LOL! No WONDER you never see "Dirty Ricky" Santorum within

arm's reach of him.

[Andy_Stephenson]

75. No he has Victor....

the "Gay mayor of Knoxville"

[MadProphetMargin]

76. Heh. The FBI says it has the right to hush this kind of crap up, accordin

to several google sites.

See you in GITMO!

[robertpaulsen]

77. Dubya always stands at attention whenever Dick is there.

But I never heard this story before. Thanks for the google info. Out of the closet, Flyboy!

[Andy_Stephenson]

78. Here is the circumstantial evidence

George and Victor were roomies at Yale together...they were both cheerleaders...Victor married and moved out of mommas house at 42, to a woman George and Laura introduced him to. George and Victor have been together at least once a month since he became gov of Texas.

and finally...

"I'm a don't ask don't tell kind of man" GW Bush May 2000