Richard Ben-Veniste Oughtta read this

[seventhson]

Maybe I am a martyr, but I just sent this to Ben Veniste.

I sent it to Senator Mitchell and two days later he quit the commission. I sent it to Senator Cleland and he quit two days later too.

What are the odds Ben Veniste will quit when he reads this?

My email to Ben Veniste this afternoon:

The author of this article was found dead two weeks later after publishing this in JULY 2001 under VERY suspicious circumstances and shortly after receiving threats he claimed came from Bush operatives (i.e. his sources for the "Fortunate Son" cocaine story included Rove and two others close to Bush - he said one of them was behind the threats to his family)

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html

Excerpt:

A plot by Saudi master terrorist, Osama bin Laden, to assassinate Dubya during the July 20 economic summit of world leaders, was uncovered after dozens of suspected Islamic militants linked to bin Laden's international terror network were arrested in Frankfurt, Germany, and Milan, Italy, in April.

German intelligence services have stated that bin Laden is covertly financing neo-Nazi skinhead groups throughout Europe to launch another terrorist attack at a high-profile American target—his first since the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen last October.

According to counter-terrorism experts quoted in Germany's largest newspaper, the attack on Dubya might be a James Bond-like aerial strike in the form of remote-controlled airplanes packed with plastic explosives.





Comment: While this was an attack alleged by western intelligence against US targets in Europe, it is clear that the intelligence of aerial attacks using planes as missiles by Osama was KNOWN to US intelligence



Hatfield was HIGH on Bush's political radar (Hatfield had used Rove as a source for his book) and the connection to neoNazis (like Oklahoma city and the Indonesian meetings) makes an interesting loop.



Rumsfeld should be asked about these German intelligence reports about Osama planning on using planes as missiles against US targets (including Bush) in JULY 2001



I feel the death of Hatfield should be investigated too.



Please keep my email confidential





EOM




Now should I kiss my ass goodbye or will Ben Veniste get a federal judgeship and have to quit?

[fob]

1. Send that too all the repukes on the commission, hopefully

they will quit within 2 days.

[seventhson]

2. I sent it to ATTN ATTY Ben Veniste

but it went to the commission staff.

Only Ben Veniste seems legally sophisticated enough to understand why it is important

I tyhink some repubs MIGHT resign when they see it.

One thing I have learned in politics" never take it for granted that people are already aware of the obvious.

The Hatfield article was always an obvious piece of LIHOP evidence to me. In fact it supports MIHOP (the neonazi angle especially ties in to Oklahoma City and the meetings of those bombers with Muslims in Indonesia)

So it may be obvious.


But nobody seems to ever mention it.

Maybe NOW it will get some traction in the bloody slush surrounding it.

[SpiralHawk]

3. Thanks 7thSon - A Telling tidbit

from the article:

"So, folks, the Middle Eastern oil money used to underwrite the first business venture of our future president of the United States, may have been derived at least in part from the family fortune of Saudi terrorist Osama bin Laden..."

"Somebody better investigate soon." - B. Dylan

[seventhson]

10. Yeah SH, It is IMPERATIVE that this tidbit of history is KNOWN to the 9-11

families, to the commission and to the VOTERS!

Rummy, Rice, Cheney, Bush Wolfowitz are a pack of LIARS!

[catzies]

4. Ok. Now in addition to believing in LIHOP I now believe

they had to make sure Hatfield was suicided before 9/11, because if he wasn't, he would have been able to get more of this story out as they knew it was coming down.

And of course, once Hatfield was out of the picture, * was that much more able to enjoy his month-long vacation in Crawford in Aug. 2001.

[seventhson]

5. No Shit

The first time I read this article I almost had (as they say in the Bayou) a "shit hemhorrage".

I had seen the article before Hatfield's death but just thought it was interesting. Then when he was suicided (asnd the evidence for being "suicided" is VERY strong: he had gotten death threats from his Bush sources (who included Rove) I saw this article again - but thought little of ity.

I had completely forgotten the article until ONLINE JOURNAL posted it again right after 9-11. But I did not see it right away. I happened to run across it while researching Hatfield on the suicide story or the Begala creaming/ridiculing of Cynthia McKinney on the Bush Knew statement after 9-11 )Boy do I hate Begala for that repuke bullshit)

I was completely floored when I read the Hatfield piece (especially since I could not figure out WHY he had been killed when he died as his book was going nowhere and his profile was NOT high even witrh its republishing by softskull press)

It has all the lements to prove Bush knew:

1. Osama

2. Commandeered planes laden (heh) with explosives

3. reported by German intelligence sources and published in Germany

4. two months BEFORE 9-11

5. Hatfield had been threatened and then "suicided" two weeks after the article appears

6. Neo-nazi (right wing) collaborators with Osama

7. James bond-like aerial attacks on American targets and buildings

8. reported by someone whom Rove had used for a blackops type disinformation operation

9. which Hatfield claim was probably just a fabrication by US intelligence/CIA to boost Bush's failing political approval ratings

10. And Bush was partners with the Bin Laden's who probably did NOT want to kill him.


YIKES!!! I thought!

YIKES!

the 9-11 commission MUST see this.

and now they have.

[frank frankly]

6. thank you for your courage on this

but I must confess that i don't understand what it means...

is this a smoking gun and if so, how? thanks, man. i'm no lawyer and i've got a tremendous headcold.

peace

[seventhson]

8. It means Bush's biographer reported intelligence info that Osama

was going to fly planes into amercian targets two months BEFORE 9-11.

He was probably murdered for it by Bush cronies.

And Rumseld and Rice's claim that NOBODY had ANY idea that this was possible is TOTAL BULLSHIT,

Busah KNEW! His NSA guys KNEW.

They MURDERED Hatfield to cover it up.

It was PROBABLY MIHOP!

And this PROVES that Rumsfeld is LYING to thge 9-11 Commission.

There is only one real good reason to lie in this situation.

They KNEW and they did NOTHING to stop it.

LIHOP at least and probably MIHOP -

with the tragic murder of the brave James Hatfield to boot.

[catzies]

19. Yes. Hatfield knew too much and was telling what he knew, too.

An unpardonable sin in the BFEE, punishable by, well, you know.

[grasswire]

7. if you really want to make sure....

...that Richard ben-Veniste sees this, I suggest that you overnight mail it to his office, certified mail. Mayer, Brown, Rowe and Maw in D.C.

I found his office email address and will provide it to anyone via DU mail.

[seventhson]

9. Thanks

I got the email there and sent it to the law firm where SOMEONE will read it.

I had sent the other one to George Mitchell at Columbia.

No wonder he went Mickey Mouse.

It is a hot story.

And I am putting it here publicly because at least no one can say that the 9-11 commission did not get this info. Or Ben Veniste. I sent him the link to this site as well (damn my Capitol Hill experience in PR!!! - I can't help it!)

May Jim Hatfield rest in peace knowing that he may help still to bring down the Bushes forever.

And may his family have peace.

(and mine too)

[buycitgo]

11. hey! I started a thread on the Sander Hicks/Ben-Veniste INTERVIEW

will look for it.......guess it wasn't of interest

his office phone and fax numbers are there; didn't see an emai.'

where'd you find it?

[buycitgo]

14. here's the Hicks/Ben-Veniste interview, along with phone numbers

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1272930

you should send the info on to the commission at large, as well

their email, phone, fax numbers are in this link, as well

[Catherine Vincent]

12. I doubt if they even read your email.

Just coincidence.

[seventhson]

22. I'm sure you do...

:shrug: :silly: :eyes:

[vincenzo]

13. Rommel's Choice

What happened to Hatfield has a name (I forget where I saw this). Hatfield was offered Rommel's Choice.

[Minstrel Boy]

15. commit suicide and have his family spared, or

be murdered after watching his family die.

Fascists can be bloody persuasive, can't they?

[Catherine Vincent]

16. That's scary.

Is Hatfield's book "Fortunate Son" still in circulation? Be right back, I'll check amazon....

[catzies]

20. Don't buy it from Amazon. Pick a more Dem-friendly site.

Checking to see it it's a premium on Buzzflash...

[seventhson]

21. softskull press in NYC

had it and, I beleive, just released a new edition. It is a must read,

Hatfield was miserably used by Rove and two others who preemptively planted false facts with real ones to discredit Hatfield, who already had vulnerability because he had been in prison before becoming a successful writer.

[seventhson]

18. Noble aren't they"

Fuckers. His poor wife and daughter were threatened and his death went uninvestigated.

he left FIVE suicide notes. FIVE!!!

Including one to the cop who had busted him that day and let him go to "take care of some business" after taking his computer.

He THANKED the cop for letting him go so he could kill himself!

How fucking unreal is THAT?

The story was scrubbed from the web within days but it HAPPENED like that.

Rommel's Choice.

I LIKE that!

Thanks.

[newyawker99]

23. Hi vincenzo!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[buycitgo]

17. what he OUGHTA read is the NORAD thread here

they're toast if the gist of that thread is correct

this seems to me the most important issue yet touched.....they're either COMPLETELY incompetent (as if that's not obvious to anyone not possessed of sub moran IQ....follow that double neg????? as one slightly above said level, those often give me trouble), OR complicit.

Rumsfeld apparently gave away the game

waiting for current session, on CSPAN II to see if B-V got any questions in on Rumsfeld re: shoot down orders