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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:48 PM
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Kerry should NOT be ashamed of his wealth
Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 11:53 PM by noahmijo
I think it was a missing scene in Godfather II where Micheal (Pacino) tells his sister's perspective husband that he should "never be ashamed of his wealth"

This may not sound very liberal but it's the truth you should never be ashamed of what you have (pending that whatever you have was acquired through legal means ect). Should you give to the less fortunate? sure, but you should never be ashamed of your hard work or if you've inherited whatever you have, you should not be ashamed of your family's hard work.

Secondly, I'm sick of both sides doing this "pandering to the little guy" okay if there's ONE thing that everyone in America can agree on it's that both Kerry and Bush have more wealth than your average American will ever even see in his/her lifetime. There's no use in trying to conceal this fact. It merely annoys and insults the intelligence of your average American. Kerry should have every right to his $70 haircuts and his expensive vacations because he's entitled to them. He's got the means, why should he feel guilty? why should ANY rich person feel guilty about enjoying what they have? the only time you should feel guilty is if you're enriching yourself by deliberately impoverishing someone else through illegal means.

I'll admit I've become a pretty big fan of Kerry and credit him for turning me over to the Democrat side after reading his book, and someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall him making his wealth by robbing the poor or stealing or anything like that.

Lastly, I for one wouldn't want someone who could never hold a job because lack of skills, or run a business or even maintain whatever wealth they unmasked to be telling me and the rest of the country what to do with my earnings or wealth.

(If you insist throw in the point that Bush failed at a few businesses despite his being wealthy)

But the point is in my last statement as much as many may cringe at the thought of some super wealthy guy like Kerry running the country I'd rather have a person who is used to commanding great power and is well educated in manners of government and policy as Kerry is to be running things than Joe the mechanic.
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woodstockjimi Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 12:05 AM
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1. PLEASE TELL
me why you feel that you should give to the less fortunate because of what you have inherited and gained. why should you have to give what you worked so hard for? Charity is around and if you chose to contribute, that is great. Why should any hard worker feel obligated to give to the less fortunate? Taxes are here for that purpose. We have welfare, Medicaid, etc. What else are we supposed to give...our spleen?
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 12:08 AM
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2. because
anybody who has much of anything in this world is lucky. It's good to help others. Clearly, you don't seem to think so, but luckily, you're in the minority.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 12:09 AM
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3. It makes me feel good helping someone who is less fortunate.
Whats wrong with that?
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woodstockjimi Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 12:34 AM
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6. there is nothing wrong with that
I am glad you find pleasure in helping others, but why should the whole country have to obligate themselves to this purpose..most people work unless they are privileged...and those who are priviledged shouldn't feel guilty for being so. If there are people out there that cant make ends meet..if they do not have family...then there is welfare. how much more as democrats and Americans can we offer? those of use who are working and pay taxes are tired of giving, giving and giving! sorry...might sound hard but am tired of the b/s of every day life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 12:11 AM
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4. Well to clarify
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 12:18 AM by noahmijo
When I say give to the less fortunate I mean in terms of charity, and of course I realize our taxes that go towards welfare, ect.

Also when I say give to the less fortunate I'm talking if you're one of those types where like $50 is to you what 5 cents is to an average American. If you're a hardworking person who is barely making ends meet but you got a nice home (in other words a house without a leaking roof and adequete utilities, ect), family to feed, ect, yea you shouldn't feel obligated to help anyone but yourself and family. But there's always ways to help someone less fortunate without having to reach for your wallet.


In addition I personally give a little here and there sometimes when I can barely afford it, I feel it's a duty as a Catholic, but I don't feel it's right to force you or anyone to follow suit. I just encourage but not order.
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woodstockjimi Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 12:45 AM
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8. you seem like a really nice person
i appreciate your commments. I am not a Catholic, but do appreciate your faith. Less fortunate will never be left unattended. you are a good guy
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 12:23 AM
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5. These posts seem to miss the point...
..that more and more, hard workers are very likely to also be the 'less fortunate'.

And I won't even get started on the inferences that wealth somehow exists in a 'hardwork is the source of wealth' vaccuum... (there are a lot of slaves, many dead native americans and others that work their asses off for shit wages to help enrich the few that would argue with this rather libertarian tunnel vision view of wealth.

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woodstockjimi Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 12:55 AM
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10. you tell em
siter or brother...cant tell by the name what you are...but you go. You hit the nail on the head!
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woodstockjimi Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 12:57 AM
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11. SISTER OR BROTHER
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 12:36 AM
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7. "Idaho" is more of family cheap ski resort...not at all like Vail, CO
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 12:40 AM by amen1234
I can't figure why they pretend that Idaho is like being real rich, and skiing at Aspen or Vail Colorado....plus, bush* can't even ride a horse, a simple sedgfield....

perhaps shrub is simply jealous that Kerry is enjoying downhill ski, cross-country ski, sno-board and snowshoe....none of these sports are necessarily sports of the rich, like shrub's country-club golfing events....most of Kerry's sports, especially snowshoe-ing and cross-country skiing are family sports done cheaply by lots of American families who live in colder climates....

and Kerry has spent most of his adult life helping others, and contributing to society...his work for Veterans has been particularly notable, but he also spends lots of time on environmental issues...has written several books, and served on many social programs....all this, while the shrub was hiding from Vietnam ANG, drinking and drugging heavily, and paying for an underaged girls abortion after raping her...

BRING IT ON....wait until Kerry gets back from his well-deserved vacation....
http://www.JohnKerry.com

All his life, John has led the fight to make America a safer and stronger nation. As a soldier, prosecutor, and Senator, John has never backed down from a tough fight. John’s life has been defined by having the courage to fight to protect the Alaskan wild from oil drilling, put one of New England’s toughest organized crime bosses behind bars, help expose Oliver North, BCCI and Iran/Contra, find the truth about Vietnam’s MIA’s, raise the minimum wage for hardworking Americans, and rebuild America’s crumbling schools.

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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 12:45 AM
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9. Sure.. if you consider
$4.19 million for an estate in Idaho to be "family cheap".
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 01:46 AM
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12. Kerry isn't super wealthy. It all belongs to his wife.
He needed a mortgage on his house, which I bet his wife paid for, to fund his campaign when nobody wanted to contribute $.

I think a man marrying for money is a little shameful, but that's because I'm old fashioned.

My boss, on the other hand, is in awe and complete admiration of Kerry's skill and ability to find rich wives (Yup, I told him about wife #1 worth $300 million and wife #2 worth $500 million).

That's the only thing he likes about Kerry because he's a Bush Republican.
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