Clarke has a little different view on the fall of the Soviet Union

[Florida_Geek]

pg 53

"The Red Army and the Soviet Union were greatly changed by the war in Afghanistan. As the body bags and the lies had piled up, the average citizen's faith in the Communist Party had further declined, as had the standard of living."

Mmmmm, Body Bags, Lies, poor economy.... Mmmmmmm sounds like what * is looking at.

[bicentennial_baby]

1. He's right too

We watched a documentary on the Soviet-Afghan war in American Foreign Policy class. It was so fucked up, the military families were lied to and told that the military was just working on "reconstruction" projects, and they were'nt allowed to mention the war on the headstones of the dead soldiers. The parents were really angry and dissillusioned.

[bobbieinok]

7. I remember reading at the time about the control of the families

[mmonk]

2. Empires implode

A lesson the US is ignoring.

[russian33]

3. yeah, but...

...the Afghan-Soviet war wasn't the only factor responsible for collapse of USSR, it might've contributed to it...there were many people that never had faith in Communist country to begin with...as for lies, I guess that happened, but at the same time I remember very clearly that we had a big board in the lobby of our school, where photos of our graduates would be posted if they died in combat...so it kind of went both ways.

[chelsea0011]

4. And I thought Raygun single-handedly did in the USSR?

Boy, do I feel dumb.

[Florida_Geek]

5. You have been listening to pill-boy toooooo long

:evilgrin:

[JCMach1]

6. He's absolutely right... we had the hubris to think the cost of the

Cold War wouldn't hit us too...

We will NEVER completely pay for it. Not only that, we are maintaining a military that could still fight such a war...

The ideology and the $$$ cost of such a position may bankrupt us yet as well.