I came across this while looking for something else

[TN al]

but I thought it was good enough to share. Just because I am curious does anybody know who said this? I will post the answer later.


“Liberal philosophy places the highest value on freedom of the individual. The first consequence of freedom is change. A Liberal can seldom be a partisan of the status quo. He tends to be a reformer – attempting to move society, to modify its institutions, to liberate its citizens. The liberal is an optimist at heart who trusts people. He does not see man as an essentially perverse creature, incapable of moral progress and happiness. Nor does he see him as totally or automatically good. He prizes man’s inclination to good but
knows it must be cultivated and supported. While understanding as well as any other man the limits of government and the law, the liberal knows that both are powerful forces for good, and does not hesitate to use them.”

[Dufaeth]

1. Dunno,

But good to see a fellow Tennessean here!

[Lars39]

6. Hi, Dufaeth!!!

There's a few of us around! :hi:

[wysimdnwyg]

8. Here's another TN boy!

[bryant69]

2. It is ascribed to

the Right Honourable Pierre Elliot Trudeau, April 1974 at this website --> http://richmond.liberal.ca/Our_Beliefs/Quotes/quotes.html

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[mike1963]

3. Chretien, I believe...

;-)

[The Spirit of JFK]

5. Chretien DID say...

The Liberal Party offers a vision of Canadian success in the 21st century that reflects
shared Canadian values. Values of fairness, tolerance and sharing. Ours is a vision in
which all Canadians have an equal chance to realize their dreams and fulfill their unique potential. We believe Canada must have a strong national government that makes decisions based on the needs and aspirations of all Canadians. We have the plan that will make our vision a reality. That will keep Canada the best country in the world-now and in the future.

[mike1963]

10. Well, at least I got the right country!

:D

[The Spirit of JFK]

11. And if you can also find it on a map

then you are smarter than 95% of Americans...instead of just 90%.

;-)

[The Spirit of JFK]

4. Pierre Trudeau..former PM of Canada

Yes?

When I was kid, I thought the part of the Canadian national anthem that said "We stand on guard for thee" said "We'd stand on God for thee". Talk about separation of church and state!

[proud patriot]

7. Boy that sounds just like me

:hi:

[bingandfrank]

9. Freedom

Liberal philosophy places the highest value on change. The first consequence of freedom is to be left the f*** alone. Truedau may or may not be right about the nature of man, but to assume that the government is "good" while acknowledging the existance of a "perverse creature" assumes the latter will not enter government service. (I'll leave it to others to define perversity in a liberal context.)

He has basically hijacked a powerful word.

If he actually "trusts people" he wouldn't need those powerful "forces for good" and would "hesitate to use them".

[TN al]

12. well i guess it is redundant

but yes it is trudeau. Too bad bing couldnt stay in du long enough to see it officially but he has even more i common with neanderthals now. That is Neanderthals arent allowed on du either