There is a Cancer within the Democratic Party

[imhotep]

and it is not the liberals.
After today's repulsive attack on the base of this party by Lieberman, I will fully support Dean.
My support for Dean is out of pure spite against Lieberman because this jackass is doing more damage than any republican could do.

The basic principle of democracy is choice. You stand for something and let the people decide between seperate governing philosophies.
These pieces of shit who are conservative need to either form another party or join the republicans because it is a crime against democracy to remain within the democratic party. And to those who point to past voting records, I say who gives a shit... either they leave or we will.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

1. Then how come you don't support the choice California made in electing

Davis?

[imhotep]

7. well

since the california constitution allows for it, who wouldnt support a recall if thats what the people want? And since it appears he is going to lose, he could shut down this crazy recall by resigning and allowing the Lt gov to take over.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

10. No he can't now that the recall has been certified

therefore not only do you not know what you are talking about but ina DEMOCRACY allowing a millionaire to buy a recall and cowtowing to it amounts to bargaining with terrorists.

Interesting..if it's a centrist like Dean you are all apologies but if it's a centrist like Davis...he's toast

[imhotep]

13. well

to tell you the truth, There is a lot of things about Dean that I don't like. Lieberman just clinched my political support for Dean, not that I agree with Dean 100%.
regarding the recall... If your theory that the recall was "bought" then you should be confident that the people of california will vote "no" and allow Davis to stay.

[Cheswick2.0]

18. that sounds familiar

"why not just impeach Clinton and then Al Gore can take office? Why are you democrats so affraid to let that happen"?

[robbedvoter]

2. What would you know about the Democratic party?

And why should anyone care what you think? YOU WANT BUSH, which makes Lieberman the better man than you.

[ulysses]

4. and you say that

YOU WANT BUSH

on what basis?

[imhotep]

5. what the hell

are you talking about?

[John_H]

24. You'll vote for Dean in the general if he wins the Dem nomination?

on edit: question directed at originial poster

[Skip Intro]

3. I have a strong feeling Lieberman is about to find out

that he has very, very little support from the Democratic party. His campaign may as well fold, and he may as well let that elephant snout hang free - he's as toasted as little hitler bush.

[Postman]

6. Why doesn't LIEberman just become a republican?

He's already republican lite, why do we need ANOTHER republican party?

[IndianaGreen]

11. Lieberman can join the likes of David Horowitz and Michael Medvek

and then tell the rest of us about how wonderful Mel Gibson's film "The Passion" it is, as Horowitz and Medvek told Newsmax.

[CarlBallard]

14. Because

He's good on the
environment> CFR and conservatives don't like him much.

Pardon the crappy HTML.

[Cascadian]

16. That's what I am talking about!

<eom> John

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. I'm

a small businessman who lives by his wit by selling things. If I don't sell things my family and I don't eat. What does all that mean?
I know a little about presentation and persuasion and Joe Lieberman fails in both areas.

That being said. I agree with his diagnosis but not his prescription.

This might be a tautology but bookmark this post. If we don't reach to out to those voters in the mushy midddle or as the high brows like to call the "vital center" we'll all be crying in our beer come November 04.


Peace

[imhotep]

9. yes

I agree that the party should be a big tent and reach out to voters.
However, it must not do so at the expense of the base and must have a distinct core philosophy that is different than the other party.

[Eloriel]

12. Well, then, I've got some GREAT news for ya

Dean has been reaching people across the spectrum all along:

BRAND New Democrats for Dean
http://brandnewdemocrats.blogspot.com

Independents for Dean
http://deanindependents.org/

Republicans for Dean
http://republicansfordean.blogspot.com/


Eloriel

[Cascadian]

15. I'll drink to that!

:beer:

I wouldn't call it a cancer though. It's more like some worms in an apple spiling the whole bunch. Lieberman surely is one of those worms. I hope you DUers in Ct. find somebody to challenge him the next time he is up for reelection. He is just a disgrace.

John

[jiacinto]

17. I don't approve of what Lieberman did

But telling moderates to leave will leave with you a party that could only get anywhere from 37%-45% of the vote, which the Dem candidates of the 1970s and the 1980s received in thier landslide losses.

Not every Democrat can run as a Marxist/Socialist fringe candidate.

[Cascadian]

19. Lieberman did some damage with his comments.

You cannot deny that. The biggest misconception of Howard Dean is that he is a lefty. He is not. Dean is just wanting the Democrats to have a spine and confront Bush more. Lieberman doesn't want that. This is why he gets bashed on DU and other left leaning forums. It's not a left wing or centrist thing. It's about sticking to your principles and not caving in like ol' Holy Joe does time after time.

John

[PaDUer]

25. Never trusted or liked

Joe Schmo..for some reason, I think he's a plant, mole!!

[imhotep]

20. Lieberman

is not a "moderate," he is an extremist.
And within the democratic party, these so called "moderates" are the minority and have no place dictating the direction of it.

Also your Lieberman-esque attempt to slander the party as "marxist" shows your disdain of the core base. So yes, everyone should be welcome in the party, but I know for a fact the majority of democrats are not going to tolerate being told they are wrong.

[xray s]

21. Please identify ONE Dem candidate running as a Marxist/Socialist

Sheesh! Give me a break.

[ulysses]

22. I'd like to see that too

but I'm not holding my breath.

[Cascadian]

23. So in your view who is the Marxist-Socialist?

If you think Dean is or even Kucinich, I am going to laugh! Only Republicans would assume that view.

John

[w4rma]

26. C'mon, jiacinto. Just because someone accurately outs Bush*'s lies

doesn't mean they are some type of extremist. A lie is a lie is a lie. And all the top-tier Dems are pretty moderate.

[xray s]

27. I think Limbaugh has broken into DU

and stole jiacinto's id and made a bogus post

that would explain it

[goforit]

28. It is time for the DLC to go home!!!

:argh: