No Dean on Larry King Thread?

[Khephra]

On NOW

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1. Watching.

n/t

[Cascadian]

I posted one earlier today!

John

[Cha]

2. You just started it!

I have no cable news so any descriptive summaries would be very appreciated! :D

Meantime, I'm going to be listening to The Mike Malloy Show!

[w13rd0]

3. Starting quite strong...

...good comments when responding to Holy Joe's BS...

Watching now...

[Khephra]

4. I'm actually surprised by Larry's tone tonight

He's being very nice to Dean. Contrast the tough question delivery by Tim R vs. King and you'll see what I mean.

[SweetZombieJesus]

9. C'mon, Larry's the king of softball

I wasn't expecting a Russert style skewering by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe Larry will let him ride him like he did Brando.

[Khephra]

10. GMTA

I added some Tim R comments while you were doing the same.

[SweetZombieJesus]

5. He's looking damn good

"...a Democrat who's not afraid to be a Democrat anymore."

Nice. Eat shit, Holy Joe.

[w13rd0]

8. Joe is afraid to be a Democrat....

...he might not get invited over to the parties Bill Bennet and Lynne Cheney host for good little corporate lapdogs...

[Momof1]

6. Damn he is good

I have never listened to him before... WOW

[wyldwolf]

7. He's saying the right things but he looks stiff...

...he should be a bit more animated in my opinion. I am leaning his way, though, after first being stronger for Kerry.

[w13rd0]

13. We're selling the stiffness...

...;) He's not full of verbal gaffes like junior, his campaign is obviously powered by the enthusiasm and cheers of his supporters. Yep, he's "stiff". After 3 years of loosey goosey I want to have a beer with Bush, I'll take "stiff". "Stiff" in 2000 would have meant we'd likely not be in the piss poor position we are today...

[wyldwolf]

21. Bill Clinton was animated...

Even Al Gore changed facial expressions. As petty as it is, that is my gripe. But like I said, he's saying the right things.

[Khephra]

16. That stiffness has something to do with the angle of the shot

Notice how he looks different in the ad and now after the break.

[liberalnurse]

20. Yes, he still needs to work on style.

I was hoping Martin Sheen and Rob Reiner would give him some pointers. Body language is highly under-rated....

He is comming on strong with issues....Once he gets going, he relaxes.

This is a really big week for Dean!!!!!!

[karlschneider]

27. I wish I could get stiff..............oh, you meant that a different way..

:evilgrin:
But seriously, he's looking pretty damn good. He obviously learned from the Timmy appearance the other week. But the perceived 'stiffness' is just the way he is...all business. I prefer it to W's bogus "good ole boy" bullshit...

I'm getting close to deciding Howie's my man.

[IndianaGreen]

47. Dean suffers of a bad back, which may be why he looks stiff while sitting

Jack Kennedy had a bad back!

[David Zephyr]

11. Grrrrr. I Can't Watch This Until Late Tonight PST.

Khephra, please keep me posted.

[Dudley_DUright]

12. My wife and I are watching and she turns and says to me

I would like to work on his campaign. Let's go to the next Dean meetup.

[w13rd0]

15. RIGHT ON!

I'm recording this, and I'm sure someone around here will have it on archive...

[SweetZombieJesus]

17. He's going to win

There is no doubt in my mind now. This man is our next President.

[Cornus]

53. Don't think so...

...Clark will announce and Dean will be history.

[birdman]

14. He's doing well

the camera angle is not terribly flattering so
he looks like he has multiple chins but he's
aggresively taking his case to Bush and poking
the other Dems at the same time.

Go Dean.

[Khephra]

18. I agree about the angle

See above

[birdman]

24. Sticking it to Limbaugh and DeLay

Limbaugh was apoplectic about Dean today.

He must be getting under their skin.

[w13rd0]

23. BOOM!

He just dropped the BOMB! Brought up Cheney's statement in the VP debates. Civil rights, equal rights under the law. Excellent, he comes out unambiguously and with a well formed statement. Marriage is NOT the business of the federal government, but ensuring equal rights is. If someone gets married in Canada, I'll see to it that the states of the US recognize their rights.

Now on Terry, talking about Rush and Tom, not being under their thumb, not letting them frame the debate. Denies conversation with Terry.

Talking about fundraising...

[Sean Reynolds]

19. Looks like Dean is for gay marriage.

He didn't come out and say it. But if he were opposed to it, he'd of said so when King asked.

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22. The 2000 election!

Wow!

Did he just zing the shrub and co.???

[Exultant Democracy]

25. What he say about 2000?

Still in my office, and pissed that I'm missing it.

[sfecap]

29. Was asked about the CA recall...

...said that overturning voters is not a good idea, then alluded to the 2000 pres election....all of the votes should have been counted...we still don't know who actually "won" the 2000 election...conservatives have a habit of trying to overturn legal elections...

The Dr. is kicking some ass here.

[w13rd0]

26. Now talking about how Bush doesn't listen to voices of moderation...

...talking about where he is. Dean will be our next President. Moved too far to the right. Calls up next. Hmmm, he handled call ins on Vermont Public Radio well, we'll see how this plays out...

I'm pumped, calls from pps asking me, "Is this guy on Larry King the guy you've been talking about? I like him."

[Rose Siding]

28. He's just got it.

:-)

Brainy, firm, directed, fair.

[Khephra]

30. Dean knocked the Green/Nader/Independent question out of the park

And it seems as if us pro-medical pot supporters have been having a bit of an effect on his stance. He's opening up more on that and I couldn't be happier.

[Rose Siding]

31. Landreau

She fits his criteria

[MoonAndSun]

34. WOW!!!!! He was direct, no hemming and hawing,

he answered every question directly. He has my vote!!

IMHO, he made a very impressive showing on Larry King, and I think it will only get better from here.

Now we have to listen to the idiot talking heads, I'm sure they will rip him up.

[w13rd0]

32. This is a great appearance...

...and he's hitting all these questions out of the park. Gives credit to Graham and Kucinich for not supporting the war. Explains his reasons for opposition. On the VP question, he spoke honestly and sincerely, saying that it was just common sense that some of the things he'd look for:

Regional consideration (from the south)
someone who can be president (statement of strong support for Gore)
consider constituency (a woman or minority would certainly not be out of the question)

excellent appearance

[markbark]

Not to mention

called the question BS at this time.
i.e. Let's win a few primaries before thinking about a veep



Go Dr. Dean!


---MAB

[birdman]

33. One of Deans best performances

Had a much tougher time with Russert and
Larry K's Mr. Softball but Dean looks cool,
well-informed and very much in command of the facts.

Handled the callers well too.

[Rose Siding]

36. It's different because King isn't really a journalist

Which I like better only because he doesn't act like all his concerns are what make the world turn- unbeltway like.

About the callers: Yes! He had a real personal touch with each and his answers were thorough and concise.

[BuelahWitch]

40. What was with that chick from Canada who was pro-Iraq war?

:wtf: Damn, I thought Canadians had more sense than that!

[KoKo]

35. He has been excellent, IMHO! I've been jumping up and down

with every major point he makes. He's standing up for US HERE who've trudged through this muck for so long and are so tired. he is energizing.........and REAL! My impression.......

[Cha]

65. I like your descriptive way you say "we trudged through this

muck for so long and are so tired. he is energizing...and REAL!"

So True! :kick:

[KoKo]

37. jerk pundit now comparing him to Eugene McCarthy! Add that to McGovern

Dukakis and "liberal wing of the Democratic Party." As I said in a post on GD they keep throwing those labels hoping one will stick, but Dean is unique and they are really ridiculous......Eugene McCarthy. They are spiinning to the RW who aren't interested in Dean anyway. They really don't get how stupid they sound.........Unbelievable!

[w13rd0]

43. The funny thing is...

...that following that appearance, anyone saying he's an "ultra-liberal" ends up looking like an insane right wing kook (sorry Joe). And furthermore, people will see him and say, "THAT's ultra-liberal? I agree with him. Does that mean *I* am an ultra-liberal?"

[Eloriel]

50. Yeah, and THAT's leadership

In fact, that's kinda what Dean said he was going to do: energize the base and bring along the swing voters in the process. You can DO that if you are willing to take positions that are right, coherent and pragmatic without consulting the damed polls first. In Dean's model (the Leadership Model, remember), you DRIVE the polls.

:bounce:

Eloriel

[KoKo]

jerk pundit now comparing him to Eugene McCarthy! Add that to McGovern

Dukakis and "liberal wing of the Democratic Party." As I said in a post on GD they keep throwing those labels hoping one will stick, but Dean is unique and they are really ridiculous......Eugene McCarthy. They are spiinning to the RW who aren't interested in Dean anyway. They really don't get how stupid they sound.........Unbelievable!

[KoKo]

38. jerk pundit now comparing him to Eugene McCarthy! Add that to McGovern

Dukakis and "liberal wing of the Democratic Party." As I said in a post on GD they keep throwing those labels hoping one will stick, but Dean is unique and they are really ridiculous......Eugene McCarthy. They are spiinning to the RW who aren't interested in Dean anyway. They really don't get how stupid they sound.........Unbelievable!

[KoKo]

jerk pundit now comparing him to Eugene McCarthy! Add that to McGovern

Dukakis and "liberal wing of the Democratic Party." As I said in a post on GD they keep throwing those labels hoping one will stick, but Dean is unique and they are really ridiculous......Eugene McCarthy. They are spiinning to the RW who aren't interested in Dean anyway. They really don't get how stupid they sound.........Unbelievable!

[KoKo]

39. jerk pundit now comparing him to Eugene McCarthy! Add that to McGovern

Dukakis and "liberal wing of the Democratic Party." As I said in a post on GD they keep throwing those labels hoping one will stick, but Dean is unique and they are really ridiculous......Eugene McCarthy. They are spiinning to the RW who aren't interested in Dean anyway. They really don't get how stupid they sound.........Unbelievable!

[Vadem]

41. KoKo, which "jerk pundit"? I missed that part--

he did a fantastic job, but he needs to smile more--he looks so much more relaxed, plus, he has a wonderful smile!

[IndianaGreen]

45. Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes is the jerk

that compared Dean to Gene McCarthy.

How about Bobby Kennedy? He too opposed the war in Vietnam!

I think Dean is the new Bobby Kennedy!

[Vadem]

48. Thanks, IG! eom

[SweetZombieJesus]

49. Steve Kroft is a stupid asshole

"Hey, I'll repeat the same pundit talking point all the hacks use, and people will buy it! It beats actually thinking for myself!"

[Vadem]

54. Dukakis and McCarthy will be the press mantra just as they

did with Al Gore, i.e., invented the internet, model for Love Story, discovered Love Canal, serial exagerator, etc., etc., etc. How can we circumvent this crap with the press this time with our candidates?

[Vadem]

55. McGovern, Dukakis and McCarthy will be the press mantra,

just as they did with Al Gore: i.e., invented the internet, model for Love Story, discovered Love Canal, serial exagerator, etc., etc., etc. How can we circumvent this CRAP with the press this time with whomever our candidate happens to be?

[Vadem]

McGovern, Dukakis and McCarthy will be the press mantra,

just as they did with Al Gore: i.e., invented the internet, model for Love Story, discovered Love Canal, serial exagerator, etc., etc., etc. How can we circumvent this CRAP with the press this time with whomever our candidate happens to be?

:shrug:

[preocupied]

42. Where do I send my check? Al Gore stay home, Dean is now my man!

The man is incredible, I have now seen the next president of these United States......

[JustJoe]

44. The more I see

the more I like. He listens, he hears, he connects.
As for his "stiffness," to me it's a sign that he
doesnt have to keep bobbing & weaving. He's a guy
who gives you the feeling he knows who he is & isnt
putting on a show. You can see he would have been
a good doctor, or a doctor you could trust. No time for
bullshit, but tell him what yr problem is & he's going
to give it to you straight what's going on & what can
be done & what yr chances are.... Also not talked about
a lot is the importance of voice in a vandidate.
I first heard Dean on
a tape, a 15-minure interview with Warren Olney, and I
heard that & got real serious & started nodding as he
was laying it out. His voice is him. His voice is
plenty animated. He's authentic, that ol' authenticity
that just aint there a lot in politicians. I dont agree with him
on all the issues, but his attractiveness has more to
do with a visceral strength & this feeling like here's
a guy who you can connect with, plus is alive & open &
able to grow & change in the office. And of course, yes,
a man who aint afraid of those *********** BushCo. Gary
Cooper, Harry Truman, etc. BushCo can say they want Dean, but
I bet they have their doubts. Like I say, the more I see,
and hear, the more I like.

[preocupied]

46. And he has a great smile......

[birdman]

51. Somebody just called on Harken and deserting from the Guard

Graham avoided those two issues but ripped Bush
on false reasons for war.

[SweetZombieJesus]

52. Kay Bailey Hutchinson is a fucking moron

I hope she gets a bad batch of Botox in her stupid lying face.

My favorite Dean moment tonight: When the caller said she was going to be attending her first Dean meetup, Dean lit up like a Christmas tree, and you could tell that it was not only that people are behind him that made him happy, but that people are getting involved.

This man is going to save us from the cabal.

[Eloriel]

56. That really was appealing, wasn't it?

I was really glad he had that opportunity to "light up" because he's so often SUCH a serious man (appropriate, IMO, since we have such serious problems), but he has an absolutely dazzling smile and very personable manner and I was afraid those lovely attributes were about to get totally missed.

You're absolutely right: like a Christmas tree.

Eloriel

[ibegurpard]

59. I posted this in another thread: He has a GREAT smile

It really does light up his face.

[dansolo]

61. I lost count on the number of lies she said

She kept repeating that we know that Saddam *HAS* chemical weapons because he has used them in the past. I really wish that someone would counter that lie when someone speaks it by saying that it only means that he had chemical weapons in the past, which nobody would deny, and that since the last known time that he used them, chemical weapons would have deteriorated to the point of being useless. The only way that anyone can say that he has chemical weapons is to actually find them. Until then, we don't know anything.

[Wonk]

57. The doctor is in MP3 format :-)

5 M

[Rose Siding]

58. Thanks Wonk

You have spoiled us. :loveya:

[madfloridian]

60. Quick job, Wonk.

I saw it, but I am listening now. It was worth another listen. How do you do that so quickly?

[dajabr]

62. Transcript is up

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0308/04/lkl.00.html

[Demobrat]

63. Well he was nothing like I expected.

I had never seen him live before. Only speeches. From all I've read I was expecting an unpredictable hothead. Instead I got a calm, measured, intelligent and intelligible discussion. No fireworks. Just straight answers. Of course, it helps that he says everything I want to hear. While he was on a maintenance person from my building came over. She looked at the screen and said who's that? I said Howard Dean, he's running for president. She said Yeah? He looks good. He could be president. For what it's worth...

[dajabr]

64. That's worth quite a lot!

Thanks for relating that story. :-)