Clarke on Larry King now!

[Bunny]

n/t

[Bunny]

1. Michael Isikoff, Joe Biden,

and two others also on.

[Langis]

Bah I was hoping for Clarke alone

[Cush]

3. can't have that

[pinto]

2. kick, thanks for the reminder.

[Bunny]

4. Clarke saying

not many people knew what happened on 911, no good account of why we failed to stop the attack.

The answers weren't getting out, he needed to get it off my chest.

I apologized because we failed them, we didn't protect them, we need to ask for forgiveness.

[Cush]

5. WH trying to divert people away from the issues

They're the ones with the credibility issues

[mike1963]

6. Goddamn that piece of shit LK.......bringing up the 02 Time shit

I despise that mofo................
:grr:

[Cush]

7. Clarke: WH Violated rules by leaking that memo

[oasis]

89. It's okay to leak the memo, but not okay for Condi to testify under oath?

:eyes:

[seventhson]

8. Please keep it coming. Kids are watching as disney movie

as much detail as possible

[Cush]

9. Nat Security Advisor, Press Sec told him to do the Press Release

[htuttle]

10. Condi Rice, Ari Fleischer and the WH communications director

They are all the ones who told Clarke to 'spin' the background interview in Aug 2002. He just said it.

[americanstranger]

11. This man kicks non-stop ass. Period.

No wonder they're so scared of him. I'm awestruck by his lack of fear.

-as

[Blasphemer]

18. Amen...

He handles BushCo's BS the way it SHOULD be handled - CALLS them on it directly. He refuses to allow them to put him on the defensive and stays on point. I LOVE him.

[ochazuke]

55. Yes, he is AWESOME.

After Paul O'Neill, especially (who tried to backpeddle).

He is such a paragon of credibility, and not afraid to stand up for himself.

THANK YOU, RICHARD CLARKE. YOU ARE MY HERO.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

12. He just said that the Bush admin is kicking up flack so that we'll focus

on that rather than the failures of the admin. He said it more eloquently than I paraphrased.

[Lugnut]

13. "They're scrambling."

Yeah, Mr. Clarke, I'll just bet they are. Oh to be a fly on the wall at 1600.

[Bunny]

14. Clarke saying also

that the WH is trotting out stuff to undermine my credibility, it's sort of ironic, they have the credibility problem, they are trying to divert attention from the problem.

LK: why did you praise them in Aug?

Clarke: I didn't praise them, they leaked my comments despite WH policy against leaking, they asked me to help them out re: Time mag article. I agreed to state good things they had done, because I was trying to stay on and change gov from inside.

If I had criticized the Pres to the press at the time, I'd have been fired immediately. Condi Rice asked me to do the briefing, and to spin it in a positive way.

They are scrambling very hard at WH to refute and besmirch me. I knew they would let loose the dogs, as they did to Paul ONeill, instead of talking about their failures.

LK: Was 911 preventable?

RC: I don't know, we'll never know. Clinton had daily meetings, this admin did not. If they had, what would they have shaken loose? I believe we would have caught the terrorists.

[pinto]

15. there's the answer to the 2002 piece

As a special assistant to the president, I was instructed to present the admin case in the best possible light. If I complained about the administration, I would have been fired in an hour. They know that. And now they're using that against me.

(I paraphrase, but that's the gist)

[Cush]

16. Clarke: If Condi Rice had been doing her job.....

[Solomon]

20. He's killing her. She can't answer why she didn't have those

daily meetings.

[tridim]

60. Is she incompetent or just lazy?

Or was she told to stand down? Has Clarke offered his opinion on that yet? It's hard to keep up with the revelations this week.

[Stephanie]

124. "Or was she told to stand down?"

That's the question we need to be blasting the media with.

[Sparkle]

17. Kids,

I think Richard Clarke is a very brave man. God bless you, man!

[PaDUer]

66. He certainly is....but..

he must be careful wherever he goes because we don't need him to be Baxterized. You can bet the WH has a team monitoring his every word, and his every move..

[belle]

114. Too late. He spilled the beans on national television. And, the book.

I'm not saying he still shouldn't be really REALLY careful, but seriously: he's done his damage. If something were to happen to him now, he'd be a frigging martyr. His book sales would go out of sight. And, I think, there'd be more whistle-blowers about *that*, and *that* would be very VERY bad. No, I think they'll just do their damndest to discredit him, and if that doesn't work--Oooh look! Shiny thing!

If they *do* have Bin Laden on ice, now's the time for them to produce him. It's the only way they can save any face at all from this mess.

[Must_B_Free]

19. Clark us CRUSHING the spin

I like the way he involved Larry king as a spinmeister. King even brought up the email and clark volleyed it right back for a score...

[Stephanie]

125. Right. He shamed King into asking a relevant question

And when he did, Clarke didn't skip a BEAT, he hit it straight out of the park!

[gasperc]

21. "they are scrambling"... "sending out 5 people to bismirch me"

who weee, he's blasting away..

holly fuck, he just said

"If condi Rice had been doing her job" they would have shaken the tree and got info to deter 9/11

what a great fucking interview, and a few minutes ago they had bitch face on Fox news sounding like a shit head.

[buycitgo]

98. hahahahahah! you are MEAN

and this is......what?

++++

get rid of pluses.....offensive

sorry, but she needs to be SQUEEZED as hard as Arnold in the first Terminator movie

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

22. Payback for Condi attacks..."not doing her job".

Clarke doesnt hold back does he?

[Norbert]

23. Condi didn't do her job.

Sandy Berger and company shook the trees for information and Condi did no such thing and missed info on two 9/11 hijackers. Very scathing.

Richard Clarke doesn't mince words. I like this man more and more.

[revcarol]

24. He talked about how the millenium attacks were thwarted because

Sandy Berger, FBI, CIA et al were on the ball, shaking the info out and alerting their people.
Compared it to pre-9/11, when the FBI knew that 2 of the hijackers had entered the U. S. and nobody in power got the info because Condi not on the ball.

And I swear if JOE BIDEN makes more of his snarky remarks...I've really had it with him.

[seventhson]

38. Biden is a Dick Wipe

sorry for being gross.

But he is

[Cush]

25. Calrke again uses Bush's own words against him

from Bob Woodwards book

[Cush]

29. oops

wrong thread

[Sparkle]

26. DAMN, HE'S GOOD!!!

He reminds me of an older Clinton. Is he married?;-)

[Teddy_Salad]

Lol!

He reminds me of an older Clinton. Is he married?;-)

I'm not sure.....but I'd like to marry him.....and I'm already married....to a woman!!!

I wonder if he'd be willing to move to Utah?

:)

[mike1963]

45. LOL! Well, it's been a great day but you just made it better, Teddy!

:D
Welcome to DU
:toast:

[gasperc]

27. reading Bush quotes from Woodward's book

fuck this guys got a death wish, I guess we got our guy taking it for the team

Go Clarke Go

[shanti]

112. he's a surefire patriot

clarke is. thank you, mr. clarke.

[Vadem]

28. Bush: Tenet briefed me daily; if we had any info that the

terra'sts were going to hit New York City, we would have taken action...
(paraphrasing)

What I can't wait for is when the press finally starts printing all the dire warnings we received from Israel, Germany, France, etc., etc. and when Isobel ? (the translator) tells all, he will be frogmarched out of the WH, along with Rove.

[seventhson]

61. Parse the subtext: They KNEW! They did not "know" EXACTLY where and when

They ALWAYS qualify it like this:

NO ONE EVER TOLD US that someone would fly four hijacked jets into 3 targets in NYC and Washington DC at precisely 8:45. 9:10 and 9:35 a.m. on September 11th, 2001 using Muslims who had been out at a strip club only days before whose middle names were Abdullah and who had cousins married to a handful of Yemenis who used to live in Toledo....


They say they did not know EXACTLY that it would happen and how.

They have STOPPED saying they had no idea it could happen (altho condi said it and even stupid ass rummy said that yesterday)

MY POINT IS...

The WAY they say they did not know is a Bullshit lie. They say it in a way that makes it sound technically true but you KNOW it is just BS

[Digit]

88. It's what they omit

"Had the administration known we were going to be attacked in NYC on September 11th, we would have acted"

NO DUH! What * did not say was, "Had the administration known we were going to be attacked, we would have acted."

BIG DIFFERENCE!

[buycitgo]

103. EXACTEMENT!

did you know that ABC helped them out last night, by intoducing their show with that same clip, but with NEW YORK CITY edited OUT?

could not believe it

saw it, but couldn't believe it

right at the beginning

they played it again, but with the NYC restored

very weird

was it a mistake, or done on purpose?

[belle]

115. Nah, that's CYA of the most weaselly sort, is all. It's enough tho'.

I mean, well DUH, of course they didn't know *exactly* when and where they'd hit, wouldn't you hope? It's a terrific non-denial denial. Almost as good as, oh, say, "I did not have sex with that woman."

Stupid fucky Chimp. Grow the fuck up and take some responsibility, would you? Clarke just did. He APOLOGIZED for not doing the job. And at least *he* TRIED. Stupid fuck.

[Cush]

30. Clarke: Osama no longer matters

Its two years too late. Al Qaeda has morphed into a muli headed hyrda. Its split up into multiple groups, etc.....

[theoceansnerves]

31. Clarke re: Bush

Didn't want dept. of homeland security
bill was passing in senate called "lieberman bill" then they changed their tune, began calling anyone opposed to it "unpatriotic"

[Kathy in Cambridge]

32. Mentions Bush admin attacks on Max Cleland

not patriotic bec. he didn't support Himeland Sec., Patriot Act

[blm]

94. BushInc made alot of people SICK when they attacked Cleland in 2002.

They showed the depths of their depravity then and many who respect those who served their country will not forgive them their trespass.

[Blasphemer]

33. Damn..

Telling it like it is about Homeland Security and Max Cleland... if I didn't know any better, I'd think this man was a Dem.

[priller]

59. No, he's just telling the truth

It's so rare for a Republican to do that these days, you think he must be a Dem.

[Solomon]

95. He's PISSED OFF is what he is. Like the

rest of us. I'm really sick of their shit too.

[shanti]

113. yes!

are we finally reaching critical mass? it's been so long in coming!

[Cush]

34. Bush & Co were against homeland security

It was only until they learned that Lieberman was in on it, then they changed their minds and attacked anyone who was against it, like Max Cleland

[Lex]

35. Good God. Clark just defended Max Cleland

and how the Bush crooks and hypocrits said Cleland wasn't patriotic.

My SO said then, "Clarke's been eating out of MY bowl of Wheaties."

I think I know what she means!

[gasperc]

36. catching OBL won't matter, we have a hydra organization to attack

it won't matter if we get OBL, the organization has morphed and will be much more difficult to battle.

[gasperc]

46. is this a bitchin interview or what, I wonder if this one of the fastest

growing threads in awhile, going nuts here

[Blue_Roses]

116. awesome interview

I am hanging on to his every word. He speaks so eloquently and knows of what he speaks of.

[RedEagle]

117. If Clarke said it won't matter if we get OBL...

...then he just dampened down the effects of the likely "capture" before the election, right?

Wonder if he knows or suspects they already have Bin Laden?

[revcarol]

120. I thought he said "soon" about Bin Laden on Larry King...

(capturing soon) can anyone check?
Right after he said it was 2 years too late.

[Spazito]

122. Yes, he said they would probably capture him soon...

which says that even the capture of Bin Laden is going to be "timely".

[mike1963]

37. Exposing Shrub's opposition to Homeland Security dep't.

As we all know Chimpy resisted the idea, but then seeing public support for something like it, claimed to have dreamed it up.

...just mentioned 'wag the dog'.....

He's creaming all the assholes including King today.

[Lex]

39. Clarke: Clinton obsessed with getting Bin Laden.

Glad he said it.

[Cush]

40. Clarke mentions that the WH didn't want the Commission

[Lex]

52. The White House went after Clark and now he's

pissed. I think he probably didn't realize how they would try to smear him. Best thing is, he's holding all the cards on this matter. But the WH cronies just can't back the fuck off. And Clark just keeps coming after them more and more, and they can't shut up.

Vicious circle that's going on here, and the Dems are sitting back watching it.

If the WH keeps smearing him, Clarke's just going to keep coming for them.

[Bunny]

41. Back to the program.

W was told on regular basis that al quaida attack was coming, but did not feel a sense of urgency. The pres has diminished our ability to fight the war on terrorism, due to war in Iraq: we are too vulnerable here at home, still unprotected, we've inflamed the Islamic world, took troops and intelligence assets away from hunt for OBL. We'll catch him soon, but won 't matter because al Q has morphed into a hydra.

Condi saying that RC is upset because he didn't get the job of Homeland Sec. Dir . RC saying that W and Ridge didn't want Dept. of Homeland Sec until they found out the Lieberman was sponsoring the bill, then they turned around and claimed it as their own.

RC - the problems started with Clinton, I criticised him as well. Bill C should have bombed the camps more, butg public said wag the dog, so he didn't do it again. He should have kept doing it. I criticized BC for it.

BC obsessed with getting OBL, ordered him assassinated, the CIA failed to do this, then said the orders to assassinate OBL were ambivalent.

No one is actually lying, they are too smart for that, just creative memory or interpretation of emphasis. Thanks family members who caused this commision to come into existence, and keep it going.

[revcarol]

56. JUDITH MILLER (Miss Chalabi-liar-believer) is on the PANEL

at the end. What's the matter NYTimes. Can you only find ONE person to shit on him?

[Blasphemer]

42. "Over the objections of the WH"...

I love how he subtly jabs them at every turn. Biden better not screw up.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

47. Biden blows with the wind-he better support Clarke

[Vadem]

43. OMG, Judith Miller, Mike Isakoff, Hagel and Biden....what a panel

but I'm sure Dick can handle them with ease!

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

48. if Clarke is around for the panel.

The panel is where King takes down Clarke.

[Vadem]

53. True--Clarke may demand to stay and defend himself! n/t

[Bunny]

64. Doesn't sound like Clarke will be around for the panel.

[Gloria]

68. He won't get the chance to face his "accusers"----they'll be on after

he's done.

BUT...Larry did say he looked forward to having him on many more times in the future....

[Solomon]

44. My God, he's killing Bush on Larry King. Damn.

They gottam find a way to shut this man up. He's incredibly smart, and very experienced. He knows what he's talking about, and itd devastating.

[teach1st]

51. Not only does he know what he's talking about...

..he knows how to move the conversation so he can talk about it. Not getting sidetracked.

[Sparkle]

49. I can't believe I'm falling in love with a REPUBLICAN!

Lord hep me!

[Bunny]

50. Clarke is kicking ASS!

and damn is he good!!!!!!

Bush, you are going down baby, and I hope it's a long hard fall. No one deserves it more, except maybe Cheney.

[pinto]

54. the brief cut to taped Condi, she's blinking and stammering.

It sure wasn't like this in academia. There everyone disagrees so judicially and politely. No one calls you a liar. She's over her head.

[Stephanie]

127. Condi is freaking LOSING IT

I have never seen her so freaked out. She's going to CRACK. She is blinking like a maniac, she's shaking her head NO while she speaks like a bobblehead doll, she looks sweaty and blotchy and her voice is up a few octaves.

GAME'S UP, Condi. Sold your soul to the devil and you have to pay now.

[Cush]

57. Clarke: There are more cops in NYC than there are troops in Afghanistan

Bush withheld them to get ready for Iraq

[Florida_Geek]

75. And per Clarke's book there are 4000 less cops in NYC

today than on 9-11...

[kskiska]

58. They can't touch this guy!

He's no Paul O'Neill, as credible as O'Neill is. Clarke is formidable and these sophomoric slime attacks are so beneath him. Very impressive.

[johnfunk]

62. Larry got a good helping of redass from Clarke.

"Tough" (yeah, sure) Larry got smacked down like a maggot by King. "Friendly" King sorta gave Clarke a chance to speak.

Conig up: Judith "Rummy Kneepads" Miller. Gag me.

[Sparkle]

63. Hot damn!

He mentions how Reagan didn't retaliate for the beirut bombing and how Bush I didn't retaliate for the Pan Am bombing!

[Mari333]

69. The fucking Bush admin could have hired all of us and we

would have said the same goddamn thing the fucktwits!! this is what we have been saying all along on here for christs sake
where are the journalists hmmm?????wheres the EXPOSE OF PNAC HMMMM?

[Bunny]

71. Yes, and that this failure to retaliate

emboldened OBL and let it get as big as it eventually did.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

65. Now the panel gets to take down Clarke

....we know how this works.

Clarke is just too "no shit" on this stuff. I rarely see this kind of straigh-talk.

[Vadem]

67. wouldn't it great if Clarke stayed in the Green Room and came..

storming out after them when the attack panel starts on him! LOL

[Norbert]

70. I actually applauded at the end of the Larry King /Clarke segment.

What a brilliant show tonight.

I pray for this mans safety. There are not that many honest people in the beltway and we need him.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

72. Judith Miller

:puke:

[revcarol]

74. Tell me what the panel says.

My blood pressure can't take Biden and Miller.

[leftchick]

81. The NYT loses all crediblity by keeping her employed...

fucking worst of the media HOs! :puke:

[Gloria]

73. CNN Headline news just replayed the bit where he says they're throwing

crap at him to deflect from the main issues!!!

Also brought up his "credibility" problem, but offered Clarke's explanation about being told to highlight the positive....

Again, LK did say that he looks forward to having Clarke on many more time over the next months!

[gasperc]

76. biden been sharp, Bush laser like on one issue major weakness

since the day after 9/11 focused on Iraq. I'm glad he supported Clarke

[gasperc]

80. fuck, Zell Miller, on Fox right asking Democrats to support Bush

I mean what a fuck wad or what!!!!!!!
Hannity, drooling over him. Zell leave please
the media is letting Clarke getting away with smear attacks, now smearing Clarke that he was the Czar during our weakest period. Fucking fuckers

[leftchick]

77. you know... I have not seen larry in years and he looks..

like a fucking cadaver..... :scared:

[Vadem]

78. Amazing! Isakoff said Clarke did a good job and his credibility

was enhanced by the info that was brought out by the 9/ll staff reports.

[DianeG5385]

79. Why are they including discredited Judith Miller???

She carried the admin water!!! Is she turning?

[revcarol]

82. what did she SAY?

L King introduced her and Isikoff as "fine journalists." :argh:

[DianeG5385]

85. What she said supported Clarke

In the lead up to the Iraq war she was the bush admin biggest cheerleader on WMD. Maybe she's feelin' guilty

[Bunny]

83. Well fer Gawd sakes,

Biden, Hagel, and Isikoff actually saying nice things about Clarke. Even that Judith woman was not that bad, all things considered.

[Spazito]

84. I am holding my breath, so far it has been surprisingly reasonable...

which, I confess, didn''t think was even possible.

[DianeG5385]

87. Is the worm turning?

Don't know! Just know that Condi on Hannity was furiously all aflutter and looking to knock Clarke at all costs.

[Spazito]

91. Yep, it is called digging ones own grave, verbally speaking...

she has no credibility because she isn't testifying and now the public know it. Let her keep talking, each and every word is hurting only her.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

86. Looks like i was wrong...Panel seems to SUPPORT Clarke..Biden.

...Biden is just as "no BS" as Clarke on this stuff.

[Junkdrawer]

90. Clarke did such a good job in the intro, the panel is obliged to...

discuss the issues. Attack dog overkill? Is that possible?

[revcarol]

92. I heard Miller going off on FBI/CIA firewall...^&%$#%&*())

They're getting off topic...gotta feed those egos I guess. You might tell me what else they said. I'm trying not to watch or listen...

[Vadem]

93. Hagel: We have had a gigantic collapse in intelligence;

we must restructure that community for what is ahead.

[revcarol]

96. Uh oh. We know what THAT means, from him.

More civil liberties to be lost down the toilet.

[Vadem]

97. I can't believe Isakoff doesn't know about the Deker flight

schools in Fla!

[Blasphemer]

99. Hmmm...

Sounds like Biden got a reality check. I wish he had finished his thought.. "I admit my mistakes... I thought that this Administration...well.. anyway..." - Interesting.

[teach1st]

100. OK, what was Biden gonna say?

My one mistake was thinking this administration...

And then he stopped.

[rockymountaindem]

101. My one mistake was thinking this administration

was competant/honest/patriotic/not totally evil/not inept...

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

102. "..was competent?"

This was an amazing Larry King episode.

Its like everyone dropped the spin and BS and defaulted to more or less straight talk.

[alcuno]

105. "would build a real coalition before dealing with Iraq."

I've heard him before.

[Spazito]

104. Hmmm, that was VERY interesting, no defense of Bush...

and no question of Clarke's credibility! Rove won't sleep tonight!

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

106. yeah..suprsing....Larry to the panel.."?"..Panel.."er..we agree"

They more or less agreed with Clarke on the substantive issues, and didnt talk about the potshots by the admin,....well Biden did, and defended Clarkes' position.

Its like this was a real "no-spin zone".

Clarke also didnt pull any punches. Condi was coming after him on other shows, and he fired right back at her.

[Sparkle]

107. Clark was so damn good, they were speechless!

That's why no defense of Bush.

CLARK IS THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!

Sleep tight tonight, Bush! Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

[PaDUer]

108. Rove won't sleep...

they're all at the journailist's dinner tonite..

[Spazito]

109. Yeah, ironic, isn't it....

hope they laugh alot, this might be the last opportunity for a long time if justice is done.

[i_c_a_White_Ghost]

110. They look real stupid attacking him now

everyone can see this guy is credible, even some repubs are backing off

[swag]

111. He certainly backed a couple of them off at the hearing today n/t

[Lex]

118. REPEATS at Midnight EST on CNN.

Don't miss it!

It's awesome. Historic, I'd say. The wheels are coming off for Bushco and if you watch this LK show you'll kind of see that happening.

[wtf]

119. "I think he probably didn't realize how they would try to smear him."

Actually, I think he probably did, which makes what he's doing all the more amazing. This man is a true American hero, he just doesn't play one on tv.

[revcarol]

121. And he's not backing down or waffling like O'Neill.

His backpedaling was pathetic...but his book was already out.

[Sparkle]

123. Kick!

For an ass kicking repeat!

[osaMABUSh]

126. "Your government failed you"

Clarke said it. I predict it's the newspaper headlines tomorrow. Christ, maybe even USA Today's.

I truly sense the beginning of the end of the Bush cabal.