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ermoore Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 12:46 AM
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Clarke Smearing
How successful do yall think the * administration has been so far in smearing Dick Clarke? I mean, I think, they're doing ok so far. They've pretty much painted him an outright liar on several things and the rest well, I think his credibility has taken a hit. Never underestimate Rove.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 12:47 AM
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1. Administration no runs, no hits, lots of errors. Clarke back to back to
back to back to back grandslams.
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 12:48 AM
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2. To be honest i think they havent
Their most effective smearing has been to people that wouldnt vote for anyone but bush so who cares what the hell they think. And another thing, that memo doesnt say jack
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anti_shrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 12:49 AM
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3. They've only convinced the people who want to believe he's a liar
The Bushbots want desparately to believe Clarke has no cred, but Dems and old school conservatives know that he's the real deal and he's caused a lot of people to think hard about Bush and his "Terra Fighter" personna.
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 12:50 AM
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4. His credibility has taken a hit?
Please expand. I think Clarke kicked ass today have you been watching faux? Rove sucks!
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 12:51 AM
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5. I don't know about that.
I think Ms. Rice has come off looking bad. She's been running her mouth for 3 days on TV, but she can't testify? I just heard David Gergan (sp?) on Nightline, and he said that not having her testify is a huge mistake. Even Chris Matthews has been pretty fair, a rarity for him.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 12:53 AM
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6. I disagree
They're playing to their base. Even the media isn't playing ball.

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HydroAddict Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 12:55 AM
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7. Two words...Perjury, try it, I dare ya.
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 12:56 AM by HydroAddict
Not 100% on this though, because courts have been partisan before (like Dec. 12, 2000).

(edit: oops, that's 6 words...duh)
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 12:55 AM
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Smear campaigns always seem effective to the GOP
That is why they run so many of them. They cannot lead, they can only tear down.

So, the smear campaign is working for you?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 12:55 AM
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8. Haven't laid a glove on him.
When BushCo the liar administration calls someone else a liar, well, let's just say a ham sandwich has more credibility.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 02:07 AM
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9. I think sheep are finally starting to see the AWOL misadmin. for what it..
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 02:08 AM by sfg25
is. A sham.

And CONdasleeza hiding behind the curtains taking potshots at Clarke is pretty disgraceful. I suspect she will be the next to fall. This stuff is sure getting to her everyone can see it on her mug.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 02:13 AM
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10. it would help if they would get on the same page
Satan Cheney was saying he was, "frankly, not in the loop." (the "frankly" word is always a tip-off that an extra big whopper is on its way).

At the same time, as Joe Conason writes, "Yet the official White House response to his book states that Mr. Clarke "continued, in the Bush Administration, to be the National Coordinator for Counterterrorism and the President’s principal counterterrorism expert. He was expected to organize and attend all meetings of Principals and Deputies on terrorism. And he did."

In the words of one repuke today, so what's it gonna' be? Which one is it? YOU HAVE A REAL CREDIBILITY PROBLEM!


Cher

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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 02:14 AM
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11. I dunno, who looks more believable ?
.
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Clarke

or
Condi

. . :shrug: . .

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thingfish Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:45 AM
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12. That man's testimony was an Extinction Level Event for the Bush admin.
This is it, baby. Wait now only for the shockwave to knock the skin off your bones.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 04:49 AM
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13. it's Rove's M.O.
if you worked for WH or government, was fired or resigned, and you critisize bush* then you are "disgruntled"

if you are a journalist or columnist that writes things that are critical of bush* then you are "partisan"

as for the rest of us --- we're just plain "unpatriotic"

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