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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:22 AM
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Why does CSPAN continue to use Washington Times staffers
as a credible source? I'm listening to Bill Gertz right now and I'm about ready to puke!

He was criticizing the headlines in other papers and saying that it IS a political season so headlines would be slanted — like the Washington Times isn't!?!?!

He's ripped Clarke apart all morning and said the commission evidence showed more fault lies with Clinton.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:27 AM
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1. I'm puking with you!
How they get away with presenting Rev Moon taliban representatives as reporters is beyond me!

BLECCCCKKKKKK!

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:28 AM
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2. ya know proles, I have been wondering about that for a long time...
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 08:29 AM by leftchick
They read excerpts from that rag daily too. In addition I am always amazed at the amount of time they give to AEI and their group of neocon nutjobs. That Brian Lamb really shows his true political leaning in his, oh not so subtle way. :eyes:
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:38 AM
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3. Isn't the Wash Times owned by some cult church?
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:49 AM
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5. Yes, it is a mouthpiece
for the Moonies.

The Moonies founded, own, and control the Washington Times
Are you a Moonie? Are you being influenced by the Moonies? Did you know that the highly respected Washington Times is a mouthpiece for the Reverend Sun Myung Moon? Well it's True! Here's some quotes about the Washington Times I snagged from the Moonies Website. If anyone doesn't believe me, go to the moonies website and read it for yourself. I'm not making this up. I wish I were!

http://www.realjournalism.net/times.htm


The Washington Times, the right-wing daily that bills itself as an alternative to the Washington Post, is owned and influenced by Rev. Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church. But most journalists seem unable or unwilling to consider the political implications of this fact -- despite the role of Washington Times executives in the Koreagate scandal of the 1970s and the Iran-contra scandal today.

Since its inception in 1982, the Washington Times has gained a circulation of about 100,000 and the endorsement of President Ronald Reagan, who reads it every day. Founding editor and publisher James Whelan resigned in July 1984, charging that top Unification Church (UC) officials had taken over the paper in violation of UC guarantees of independence. In 1987, Times editorial page editor William Cheshire and several staff members also resigned over UC interference.

Former top UC official Steve Hassan believes that the Washington Times is a "Trojan horse" within the conservative movement. Hassan told EXTRA!, "Conservative politics is glad to have a voice through the Times, but ultimately it has nothing to do with conservatism. It has to do with fascism."
http://www.fair.org/extra/best-of-extra/washington-times.html
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:45 AM
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4. I've heaved up all my guts
There was one good caller that did call Gertz out on all his stupid claims.

Gertz's book can't stand against "Against All Enemies" and will only give the freepers false information.

Which is good. Thank you Mr. Gertz.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:51 AM
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6. Their hypocrisy knows NO bounds
One of his points was that Clarke was just trying to sell a book — and WHAT exactly was he trying to do.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 09:16 AM
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9. I would cast a vote for Richard Clarke as a great "Countryman"
I don't believe for one minute Mr. Clarke did it for money.

Please don't pop my balloon, I do need something to believe that humanity is on the square besides professional wrestling.

A Man For All Seasons
Richard Clarke is my hero
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 05:05 PM
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14. That guy was awesome!
Man, what a call. Really pinned Gertz. Not my favorite CSPAN show...what with Gertz and then Santorum. Santorum kept stating how the government shouldn't ge involved in solving the corporate inequities...but, of course, the government SHOULD get involved in citizen's private lives; like abortion and sexual orientation.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:59 AM
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7. Well because the other side sees things not as we do.
C-span can not win. They get it from both sides. Or have since in got a dish in '95 to watch it.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 09:05 AM
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8. Where's Joe Conason???
Lamb and the rest live on these Reich wing morans from the Moonie Times, AEI and Cato Institute...then present them as some credible, objective "source". Sadly, unless you've been around enough to know who these players are you can be easily duped into thinking these people actually speak with some form of authority and credibility.

The biggest joke I saw this morning is how Gertz kept wailing with those talking points of how Clarke was trying to sell his book and that's what this is all about (sell out)...while he kept comparing (and shilling) his own roll of toilet paper.

So let me get this straight...the man who was at least inside two White Houses at the center of the "war on terra" knows nothing, but this bottomfeeder and scum is to be believed?

The great feeling here is Clarke came out impeachable yesterday and his charges and voice will only get louder the more these goons try to shout it down. To them, I say...Bring It On!!1
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 09:18 AM
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10. Wrote a beautiful piece yesterday on Dick Clarke
'Ya know, I forgot where?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 09:47 AM
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11. It's In Salon...And Yes, Very Good
But he's not on the tube. He's one of the best spokesman of reason I've ever heard. Generally he'd show up on Washington Journal every couple months but I haven't seen him in at least a year...and never on any of the other "food fights"...not sure if that's by his choice or others.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 04:08 PM
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12. Thanks man, when 'ya get 70 things become a little cloudy at times
Especially when the train is moving 120 miles an hour.
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BabsSong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 04:23 PM
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13. Noticed something on C-Span WJ
I'm usually a faithful watcher. About the time Bush kicked off his campaign, they suddenly went into a deluge of repukes. If not the institutes and papers listed above, it was some undersecretary or other explaining Bush policy on XYZ. They also have shoved Pedro and the blackman aside and put the guns on to direct traffic. That can't be just from luck of the draw programming. Someone is now programming with a purpose and that will start destroying this service. I'm sickened.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 05:11 PM
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15. isn't C-Span owned by cable/all networks as a public service channel??
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