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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:25 PM
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Anybody Else Getting Sick Of The Proselytizing Here Lately?
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 01:33 PM by matcom
And I am referring to Atheist prostletizing as WELL as Christian prostletizing!

i am all for intelligent discussion of the Pledge or a Movie but the threads that tell me and others how to think (or how we SHOULD think) about a particular belief is more than a little tiresome and frankly a rediculous excercise on paper.

just my .02
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:29 PM
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1. "Hell" yes!
:)
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:29 PM
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2. an exercise in futility
A great quote, "Never argue with an idiot, people will have a hard time distinguishing who's the actual idiot." I forget the source.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:33 PM
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9. I have a corrolary to that
The only thing worse than a fool is the asshole that argues with him
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:29 PM
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3. My God will beat up your God if you're not careful
:evilgrin:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:50 PM
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20. My God will destroy your faith in there being no God.
Whose faith is strongest?

Who can assert what they can not prove the loudest?

Who will realize faith is personal - let us get back to politics!

:-)
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:30 PM
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4. No..I hate them both...I ignore it!!!!
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:30 PM
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5. This is not on paper
...so it isn't ridiculous.

You're thinking about it all wrong.

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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:30 PM
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6. Yup.
But everybody knows that my lack of a God can beat up your God.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:32 PM
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7. No, I get more pissed off about misspellings
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:34 PM
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13. LOL thanks
and fixed. not a word i type often. should have looked it up

:hi:
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:32 PM
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8. less thinking -> MORE SEX
good idea.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:33 PM
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10. Whaddya mean "lately"?
Hehe.

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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:33 PM
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11. Yes-I try to avoid religious threads
they make me lose respect for DUers I usually like. It's just not worth it.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:35 PM
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29. Exactly. It's surprisingly easier than I thought it would be,
I just repeat:

Beat Bush. Beat Bush. Beat Bush.

It's been remarkably effective!

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mindfulNJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:34 PM
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12. well... its a forum
Isn't that what a forum is for?
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:36 PM
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15. not necessarily
read my original post.

then read the thread titled: "Under God"

then read the lounge thread dealing with the Gibson movie.

both posters who started those threads are pushing THEIR beliefs on everyone else and when they get 'another version' the flame wars begin.

i am ALL FOR discussing the pledge or anything else but it feels like i got Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell telling me what to think
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 02:03 PM
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22. You have a problem with Pat and Jerry???
Such fine examples of moral, ethical people. I guess you're gonna go off on Bill Bennett or Newt Gingrinch next!
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Groosalugg Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:31 PM
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26. Nobody is telling you what to think...
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 06:31 PM by Groosalugg
and if you don't like it, just ignore it or don't read it.

Simple! :o
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:37 PM
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30. Welcome to DU. Matcom expressed an opinion; isn't that what
a forum is for?

Ahem:

:toast:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:44 PM
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32. wrong answer
i asked (i'll put it in 'simple' terms for you) WHY do you PREACH to me to sway an argument?

welcome to DU btw, :hi:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:36 PM
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14. My karma will...
... run over your dogma :)
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:38 PM
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16. I think most posters figure you don't want intelligent discussion
since you are constantly showing the CRACK OF YOUR ASS in every post.

LOL!:)
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:01 PM
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35. LOL - ur right!! it does NOT make one think of a "deep" thinker !
.
.
.

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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:40 PM
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17. I haven't seen any atheist proselytizing
although I haven't gone in the pledge threat in LBN yet, just the ones in GD.

What I have seen is atheists standing up for their rights and getting a lot of support from other DUers. Nice to know some believers understand.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 02:03 PM
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21. I agree. Proselytizing atheists seems oxymoronic.
(((I mean just because people can't see the superiority of being atheistic it's not their fault!))) :bounce:

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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:42 PM
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18. Nope.
I don't click on religion or wedge issue threads.

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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:43 PM
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19. Oh, THAT kind of proselytizing...
I thought you were talking about all the threads in GD about leftists, moderates etc.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:13 PM
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23. decided to kick this
i have decided to do a 'study' here (for educational purposes)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:18 PM
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24. you'd never make it in Texas
it's non-stop here
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:27 PM
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25. How's about a Religious Discussions forum?
Man, can you imagine the punching and kicking that would go on in there? Sort of like an internet version of a Three Stooges marathon. It would make the Gungeon look like a botanist convention.

On second thought, a separate forum for that is a really horrible idea.


(Hey, I just used the spellcheck, and it wanted to change "internet" to "INTERNET". What the hell? Is that a word that I should scream in the course of normal conversations?)


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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:39 PM
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31. It's been suggested zillions of times--the Mods have said no each time.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:17 PM
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37. Rightly so.
We do quite enough "bashing our own" in the regular forums. A religious forum would be a complete train wreck. Still, I'd peek in once in a while to see how many deleted comments there were.

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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:32 PM
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27. i would PERSONALLY like to hear from some of the 'thread starters'
and how YOU feel about it.

c'mon, you know who you are on BOTH sides.

really. this is for research. i won't even respond to your posts.

any takers? on EITHER side?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:32 PM
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28. Amen. (Pardon me!) nt
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tallyho Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:48 PM
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33. Not just Atheist vs Christian
Guns vs no guns
drilling vs no drilling
war vs no war
snowmobiles vs no snowmobiles
civil union vs gay marriage
left vs far left
Israel vs support for suicide bombers
on and on and on
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:50 PM
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34. i want to specifically deal with the 'hard core' Christians here
and before i get slammed:

there is AMPLE evidence on this board that there is a religious battle going on.

include "The Passion" movie in a post and BAM! the thread climbs over a hundred quite quickly

etc... etc... etc...
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:16 PM
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36. I understand where you are coming from! hang in there!!
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:27 PM
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39. thanks. suddenly, its difficult to get 'real responses'
:shrug:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:27 PM
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38. preach baby!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:33 PM
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40. Yup. Imho, atheism is a type of religion. This one religion is better than
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 07:34 PM by w4rma
other religions stuff is off topic, imho.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:36 PM
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41. Exactly, Matt
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:46 PM
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42. As a matter of fact, I am
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 07:47 PM by chefgirl
I'm getting REAL tired of Atheists on this board trying to impune the intelligence of anyone who admits to a belief in God.
Additionally, I find it highly insulting to be lumped in with the fundie whack jobs simply because I have a belief that Atheists dont share.

For what its worth, it's not a matter of intelligence, its a matter of faith.
For free thinking defenders of EVERYONES rights (as DUers are supposed to be) to disparage anyone because they hold a differing belief, smacks of the very same hypocrisy displayed by religious zealots.

I've said it before, and I'm saying it again...I promise to NEVER belittle anyone here for their religious beliefs (or lack thereof). I only ask for the same respect in return.

-chef-

edited for clarity
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Groosalugg Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:48 PM
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43. Well said!
:toast: :hi:
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:51 PM
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44. Thanks

:hi:

-chef-
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:14 PM
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45. where did i insult your intelligence?
and i must ask, WHY does an 'intelligent' conversation require that religious people make their argument by 'recruitment methods'

i'm all ears
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:19 PM
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46. OK, I'm all answers
You asked a question in the original post, I answered it.

Nowhere did I accuse YOU personally of insulting my intelligence. Just an observation I've made lately of quite a few Atheists on DU, and the way they treat people who profess a belief in God.

I have also NEVER tried make an argument by attempting to 'recruit' anyone, so I cannot answer for those who have.


-chef-
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:21 PM
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48. you suggesting that the Atheists on DU
insult intelligence?
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:23 PM
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49. Not suggesting
I'm saying clearly that MANY Atheists on DU attempt to insult the intelligence of those who admit to a belief in God.
I believe I said exactly that in my first reply.

-chef-
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:30 PM
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50. you are right and THEY are wrong
Right?

i personally have seen MUCH MORE bible thumping AGAINST non-believers than the non-believers 'thumping' anti-christian sentiments against believers.

and before you make a blanket negative statement against the above, run a search
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chefgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:41 PM
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51. They are wrong in only one respect
They are wrong, IMO, NOT for what they believe, but for attempting to insult those who believe differently.

I feel just as strongly about believers 'bible thumping' against non-believers,(to borrow your phrasing) its just that I've noticed more of the opposite.

If there is any doubt in your mind that I live by my words, I suggest YOU do a search and show me where I have done that to anyone on DU.
Again, I cannot answer for those who have.

Now, because I believe strongly that I am being baited intentionally, I will remove myself from this discussion.

-chef-

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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:21 PM
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47. George Carlin's Commandment: Keep Thy Religion To Thyself.
Amen.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:43 PM
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52. I am fucking sick of it.
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