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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 05:41 PM
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White women - new hope for a Democratic South?
From CNN web site - Iraq through the eyes of the voter
...a new trend may bode well for the Democrats. In recent years, white women have formed winning biracial coalitions, often with a vibrant base of white female support and black female (and black male) support. Indeed, Sens. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas and Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Baineaux Blanco may be cutting a new path.

This fall, a few isolated victories could become a genuine trend if South Carolina Education Superintendent Inez Tenenbaum and former Florida Education Commissioner Betty Castor both win their party's nomination and their states' open Senate seats.

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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 05:46 PM
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1. We'll need all the help we can get!
I love KV, btw...
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 05:51 PM
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2. Kurt is Da Man
"I myself feel that our country, for whose Constitution I fought in a just war, might as well have been invaded by Martians and body snatchers. Sometimes I wish it had been." -- Kurt Vonnegut
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 05:52 PM
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3. Hate to spoil the party
but its not the white women I know in the south.

Maybe more urban folks, but look what Georgia has brought to the table of late.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 09:41 AM
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5. True, there are a lot of backward white women in the South
as well as backward white men (and backward Latinos, Asians, Hispanics, et al.). And I've heard there may even be a couple of backward people in other parts of the country as well.

However, the point of the quote was that there may be a glimmer of hope since white female Democrats have won some elections in the South recently. That's all.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 09:52 AM
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8. Inez Tenenbaum in South Carolina
She's running a much stronger campaign than expected for Hollings' Senate seat. If a white Democratic woman can win in the most conservative state in the country, there may yet be hope for us.

;-)

http://www.inez2004.com
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:05 AM
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10. If she boots Fritz "I Hate The Internet" Hollings I'll be in love with her
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:10 AM
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12. Um, Hollings is a great guy
However he is retiring.

What's your beef with him?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:37 AM
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14. Google...
Hollings CBDTPA
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 09:50 AM
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7. Georgia is underrated
All that happened in 2002 is that the Republicans got organized. Ralph Reed ran a brilliant campaign and the Democrats didn't. Roy Barnes was and is tremendously popular. Cleland too. And there are still a lot of Democrats in Georgia, and an increasing number of them are liberals. We're not going to win Miller's seat in November and Kerry won't carry the state, but Georgia should still be very competitive most cycles.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:04 PM
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4. Oh yeah? Where they at?
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 09:43 AM
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6. Just heard Gene Wilder
on "City Arts and Lectures" the other night. What a great guy! He said when he met Mel Brooks, Mel was wearing a pea jacket. The first thing Brooks said to Wilder was, "You know, they used to call these urine jackets, but they didn't sell."
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 09:54 AM
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9. New?
Sort of like the periodical articles in Rolling Stone about "Women in Rock"--featuring the latest cuties who are "forging new frontiers" or some such poppycock. I've often pictured those writers having their consciousness raised by a visit from Grace Slick & Chrissy Hynde.

Similarly, those who have just discovered Southern Democratic women need to meet Sissy Farenthold, Ann Richards & Molly Ivins.

Better late than never, though.

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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:37 AM
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13. I think the writer's point was
that most Dem candidates in the South have been white men, and that that seems to be changing, a little bit--not that there's never been a southern white woman in a position of Democratic leadership. And that this trend may be a way for Dems to strengthen their position in the region.

Are you saying that it's wrong to take special note of women in politics (or in rock) rather than just evaluating them as politicians (or musicians)? Or that it's myopic to portray their being in leadership positions as a bold new trend?

Not trying to start a flame war--just trying to understand your position.

I know I tend to find women candidates (of any demographic background) of more interest because I regard women politicians as a) less likely to be corrupt and b) more likely to have something on the ball, since (unless they're Katherine Harris) they probably had to work harder to get where they are than a lot of the good old boys have had to do.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:48 AM
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15. Yes, it's just that these writers are a bit slow.
Glad they're catching on, however late. Sort of like the Special Olympics--don't want to discourage them, since they are trying!

I'm glad there are more female candidates but don't necessarily regard them as better than men. My own Senator is Kay Bailey Hutchison! Oh, wait--actually, she is better than her male counterpart--John Cornyn; and she was definitely better than Phil Gramm.

My rep is Sheila Jackson Lee. Not perfect, but she continues to give the Republicans hell. Being black, she's not "news".
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:07 AM
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11. Join the Democratic Women
In every county organization that I know of in this Southern state, it is the Democratic Women's Club that is the backbone of the party. In this county, registered Democratic women greatly outnumber registered Democratic men - and we vote!!! Black women outnumber white women, but only slightly. I know of quite a few women who have come over from the Republican party because of the right-wing anti-woman views of that party's leaders.

If you want to get involved with a group locally who has really been making a difference for a very long time, then join the Democratic Women. And yes, we don't discriminate against men!!!
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