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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:33 PM
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CNN just did analysis of the "joke"
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 07:35 PM by Must_B_Free
with Mark Katz, Clinton's joke writer.

The then analyzed a Clinton joke about freeing up another bedroom... But Katz pointed that the Clinton whitehouse was in peril of their own doing.

Katz said Bush crossed the line because people were sent to war over what he was joking about.

The CNN whore tried to stump for Bush a bit by saying "was that before or after Clinton lied under oath?"

but then she said CNN called the whitehouse for reaction to the criticism of the President's joke and the calls were not returned.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:34 PM
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1. Reason it didn't work - It's a joke on US! Not Bush.
The joke's not on *, it's on the American people and all of the dead.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:42 PM
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5. did you ever hit that nail on the head!! Right on!!
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terisel Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:43 PM
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6. Reminds me of Bush flubbing the Shame on Me line
Do you remember when Bush was campaigning and tried to repeat the saying about "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice; shame on me" and he couldn't say it right and ended up saying "don't do it again" ? People speculated that he was to egotistical to say "shame on me".


It sort of fits with this. He does seem to have a sense of humor that makes fun of others.
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drumwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:51 PM
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11. Mark Crispin Miller said essentially the same thing.
He argues that, contrary to the perception of most liberals, Bush is not a total moron but a cunning sociopath. And Miller thinks that the reason Bush is so inarticulate at times is because he is unable to feel any empathy for anyone less fortunate than him and is incapable of expressing any thoughts that might be the slightest bit self-deprecating. He points out that when Bush is fully articulate and coherent whenever he's talking in a context of revenge or retaliation against his enemies.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 11:22 PM
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23. Bill Press - Maybe they're just admitting that the WMD's were a joke.
To get us into this war. Hmmm.
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 11:27 PM
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24. Yeah and did the American people fall for it!
Very funny George. :puke:
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 12:45 AM
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28. He said something even more telling,
which makes the clip worthy of a playing at the Democratic convention and perhaps a position in a Dem campaign ad:

"Fool me once, shame on - shame on you... Fool me - you can't get fooled again."

No we can't, Mr. President. We can't afford to.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:35 PM
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2. Clinton's Fault AGAIN?
OMG when will the PRESENT ADMINISTRATION be accountable for PRESENT DAY FUCKUPS.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:35 PM
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3. Katz Should Have Said:
something about Bush lying to the world
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:44 PM
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7. Katz meant it's OK to make fun of your own "scandals"
which Clinton was good at.
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RRG Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:42 PM
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4. On hardball CM is just berating a bush campaign advisor on the WMD joke.
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4MoreYearsOfHell Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:45 PM
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8. Tweety beat up eskew pretty well
after Eskew got snotty defending *'s reason's to go to war. Tweety wants to know if shrubby tells those jokes at Walter Reed.

CM said he was at the dinner, and said chimpy has shown poor taste.
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:06 PM
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14. I saw that .... It was a thing of beauty ....
I almost wet my pants in delight seeing Tucker Eskew (a home boy even) trounced and bounced in grand fashsion by the king of SOB's himself!

:bounce:
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 12:50 AM
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29. rumor has it that some of those slides were shot at Walter Reed,
but his aides DID prevail upon him not to use the one where he looked behind a wheelchair!
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madeuplikebowie Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:13 PM
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16. yeah
I saw that, Chris said he didn't think it was funny and he asked freeper "would bush say those jokes in the hospital with those amputated?"

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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 10:54 PM
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21. Caught it. It was nice.
Chris took the mickey out of that pompous lying little creep. Sweet.

600 dead, thousands cruelly maimed of our brother and sister Americans, who had been dispatched for carry out the urgent call to duty by their Commander in Chief to protect their fellow Americans against imminent harm by Saddam Hussein -- to disable those WMD.

It was a lie. Or -- now they are telling us -- they weren't really lying, but we are all so stupid we *thought* they meant that Saddam was an imminent threat to America when they said Saddam was an imminent threat to America, which they really didn't mean.

Come on, George -- if you're so fucking brave, trying doing that hilarious and absolutely non-offensive stand-up comedy routine in one of our military hospitals.

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 12:53 AM
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30. That's right. G. Bush, please repeat those "jokes" at Walter Reed
Let's see how funny your "jokes" really are, George Bush.
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:46 PM
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9. "Mr President [sic] Do you agree with the vast majority of Americans that
this so-called joke was in poor taste?"

"Clinton's Penis! Clinton's Penis!"
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:47 PM
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10. Whaaa! the media whores for Bush never stop!
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 07:58 PM by Jim4Wes
How the Fuck can you compare Monicagate to a gawddamn WAR!

"You know that was really an explosive blowjob Mr. Katz"

:wtf:
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:56 PM
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12. For once Tweety was OK
He mentioned amputees, brain injured, people at Walter Reed.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:59 PM
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13. Agreed Leilani, thats two good nights in a row for Tweety bird.
Last night he shut up the Bush campaign slimeball who was there to attack Clarke.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 11:35 PM
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25. Apparently actually seeing Bush's victims
puts things into perspective, even for a whore.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:07 PM
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15. Molly Ivins latest column on this is excellent....
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 08:10 PM by Jade Fox
Its posted over in Editorials.

The timing of this is actually pretty great--coming right after Clarke's
compassion for the 9/11 families yesterday. It makes Bush look
particularly out of touch and heartless.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:22 PM
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17. bush* always mocks others....look at this photo...disgusting....

Mr Bush was introduced by an African-American male, whose head Mr Bush proceeded to rub while grinning and smirking.

The man, identified as Alphonso Jackson, acting Secretary of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development,
appeared somewhat bewildered while still preserving an appearance of happiness to welcome Mr. Bush.


thanks to www.bartcop.com
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:27 PM
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18. Yuck! It looks like he's petting him....
That kind of body language and touching is a clear indication of Bush's
sense of superiority to this man.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:52 PM
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20. it's a very degrading gesture to a subordinate...a guy who cannot
speak back to the pResident, and had likely come forward honored at being chosen 'acting' in a very high position....

what a degradation this man was subjected to....one has to wonder what bush* does to his staff in private if he is willing to degrade his subordinates in a public appearance like this....

IMO, it's also a racial-degradation, typical of bush*....
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 11:37 PM
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26. OMG.
Well, as for the African-American vote, when you ain't got nuthin', you got nuthin' to lose. What an embarrassing ass he is.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:51 PM
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19. To put htis in proper perspective: just think if Clinton had told the same
joke under the same circumstances after sending our children off to invade a crippled nation not threatening us based on lies.

Now, doesn't that look a whole lot different than what we are seeing and hearing in the media today? You know damn well it would be wall-to-wall reporting on that sick joke and the talking heads would be moaning about what lack of integrity and dignity there is in the WH and how sleazy and insensitive the President is. FOX would be slobbering all overthemselves.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 11:03 PM
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22. OMG this is the last straw


Is there no end to his antics!

The man should have slapped the s*** out of him. I take it that this Brother is a Republican. Either party, it was a horror!

Reminded me of the Sammy Davis and Nixon hug.

Someone should interview this gentleman and ask him why he is smiling while someone degrades him, even if it is the Unpresident of the United States.

:kick:
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 12:13 AM
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27. yeah -- it doesn't work when the person in power is trying to be satirical
It's like a bunch of CEOs parading around with puppets made to look like unemployed workers. Radical theatre falls flat when the powerful try to use it as their own weapon.

Note that Bush has done this sort of thing before -- he made a joke about polluted water at his first press dinner, shortly after he lowered arsenic standards. Very few people laughed.

In his own mind, he thinks he's an underdog. This is probably how he rationalizes his repeated failures. And he's totally shocked when ordinary Americans don't see him as "one of them".
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 12:54 AM
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31. anybody seen those "George Bush joke that isn't a joke" things
on Letterman?

those are pretty revealing

a compilation of those would be devestating

they showed the clip of him SPITTING on the WH lawn last night, btw, as well as the one where he wiped his glasses on Letterman's aide
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Michael Harrington Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 01:54 AM
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32. The
"George Bush Purposeful Jaw Clench" almost caused me to pass out I laughed so hard. Dave knows what a schmuck he is.
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