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chelaque liberal Donating Member (981 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 09:31 AM
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"Carpet of gold or carpet of bombs"
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 01:50 PM by Skinner
Another view of Bush's record on terrorism. This still rings true to me. Was it ever disproven?



U.S. Policy Towards Taliban Influenced by Oil - Say Authors

By Julio Godoy, Inter Press Service

PARIS, Nov 15 (IPS) - Under the influence of U.S. oil companies, the government of George W. Bush initially blocked U.S. secret service investigations on terrorism, while it bargained with the Taliban the delivery of Osama bin Laden in exchange for political recognition and economic aid, two French intelligence analysts claim.

In the book “Bin Laden, la verite interdite” (“Bin Laden, the forbidden truth”), that appeared in Paris on Wednesday, the authors, Jean-Charles Brisard and Guillaume Dasquie, reveal that the Federal Bureau of Investigation's deputy director John O'Neill resigned in July in protest over the obstruction.

Brisard claims O'Neill told them that “the main obstacles to investigate Islamic terrorism were U.S. oil corporate interests and the role played by Saudi Arabia in it”.

The two claim the U.S. government's main objective in Afghanistan was to consolidate the position of the Taliban regime to obtain access to the oil and gas reserves in Central Asia.

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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 09:41 AM
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1. Two crucial pieces of information here
First, I had no knowledge that Libya was "at war" with Bin Laden so early on. That's a shocker.

Second, It appears that another reason would have been found to attack Afghanistan even if 9/11 hadn't occured.

Am I following that correctly?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 09:51 AM
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2. I believe this is the "loop" that Richard Clarke was "out of"...
We need to see those Cheney secret energy policy meeting minutes...
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skeptic9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:17 AM
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3. This could be a series of coincidences, but post-9/11 events in ...
... Afghanistan are consistent with the French 9/11 conspiracy theory you posted.
Hamid Karzai, a former consultant for Unocal, became ruler under the "protection" of US troops. In December 2002, Unocal became the lead company in a $3 billion pipeline deal signed that month. See http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/12.30A.afgh.pipe.htm and http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/afghan.html

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:26 AM
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4. Forbidden Truth is a must read.
The authors aren't talking out of their asses. A good chunk of the book was commissioned by French Intelligence. They are anti-terrorism experts, and were on the story before it was a story. For instance, they interviewed a weary John O'Neil in late July 2001.

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chelaque liberal Donating Member (981 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:51 AM
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5. A side issue
If this is all true, and I suspect it is, doesn't that cast the government's case against John Walker Lindl in a different light?

How was he consorting with the enemy if the "U.S. government saw the Taliban regime “as a source of stability in Central Asia" at the time he went to Afghanistan?

Just asking?

He accepted a plea bargin on the condition that he never tell his side of the story, so the Government's secret is safe.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 01:49 PM
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6. chelaque liberal
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chelaque liberal Donating Member (981 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 02:19 PM
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9. link Sorry, I thought that was just LBN
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 02:00 PM
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7. As far as I know
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 02:01 PM by BigBigBear
no one really pursued their leads regarding Laini Helms and State Department playing footsy with Taliban leaders in DC in March 2001. And as far as I know, none of what they wrote (both very reputable intel reporters) has been proven false.

If they go after Clarke, this is exactly what they should go after first; they didn't deal with Al Qaeda because they were trying to get a pipeline built in their neighborhood.

If that comes out, someone's going to prison.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 02:08 PM
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8. Its amazing how it all has come back to this ...
When 911 occurred, we heard of the pileline politics and the cozy relationship which the Bush Team affected with the Taliban AS SOON as he took office ...

We heard about the FBI's John O Neill, and his disgust with the Bush WH pushing aside legitimate terrorism investigations in favor of a 'Policy of Appeasement" with the Terroristic Taliban ...

Now: ... It all comes back ....

What we NEED is DEFINITE evidence of this relationship ...

'Bin Laden: The Forbidden Truth' will be suspect as a source, since it will certainly rile the Francophobic cockles of some ...

What OTHER independent corraboration exists to support this theory ? ..

I had posted a few threads asking for this same thing: evidence that shows the relationship between the Bush team and the Taliban was ANYTHING BUT adversarial during the months prior to august 2001 ..

We need some more sources for this ...

Where is Wayne Madsen when you need him?? ..
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skeptic9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:32 AM
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10. kick
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