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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:27 PM
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Could Bill Clinton be the VP nominee?
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 05:28 PM by ButterflyBlood
yes, I know it's not happening and it's probably not a good idea, but is he eligible? The Constitution just says no person may be elected President more than twice.

I actually once saw a Freeper predict that Hillary would run with Bill as her running mate! LOL!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:29 PM
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1. Well shit wouldn't that be interesting.
I dont think that it's possible, but ya never know?

I was thinking Gore?
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Narf Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:30 PM
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3. It would give Rush Limbaugh an explosive aneurysm!
Actually, that might be kinda fun to watch.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:35 PM
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7. that's why I think he'd be a great cabinet pick
The Freepers would all have heart attacks as soon as they heard the news.
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Narf Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:42 PM
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11. They'd see it as a sure sign of the end of time..
Even better...Hillary for VP. They would rather see Satan himself as VP than Hillary.
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Nanski Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:52 PM
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14. Satan himself is already VP
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Narf Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 06:00 PM
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18. Hmmm, good point.
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Narf Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:29 PM
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2. Legally he could, but I don't think Kerry would go there.
Clinton carries a lot of baggage that Kerry probably not want to deal with. Boy, couldn't you just see the conservative radio jocks blowing a gasket over that nomination?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 06:03 PM
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19. No, legally he could NOT.
No one who is not eligible to be elected president can be the vice president.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 06:10 PM
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23. Actually, yeah, legally he can be
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:32 PM
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4. This has been answered before NO
To qualify for VP you have to meet all the legal requirements for President. The 22 Adm. kills that.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:32 PM
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5. No
you have to be eligible to be president again and he wouldn't be.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:39 PM
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10. See my post below.
You need to be eligible to hold the office.. not be elected to it. Read the 22nd closely..
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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:34 PM
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6. God I hope not
Love the guy, but it would be a big liability.

Loved the SNL skit about it tho...
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democraticgator Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:44 PM
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12. way off topic.........
I was looking into ordering some abinthe and thought you might be able to offer some advice. Such as where to order it, what brand to get and how much should i drink when trying it for the first time. I would have sent a PM, but i dont have enough posts.
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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:54 PM
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15. Hmmm depends on which kind you like
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 05:55 PM by absyntheNsugar
You can get the Spanish stuff (sweeter and mellower) from http://www.spiritscorner.com

And you can get the Eastern European stuff (harsher and more bite) from http://www.laboheme.uk.com/

As for which brand, it's hard to say. Just like any liquor, each one has their own flavor and style. Here's a good site that reviews the different brands: http://www.feeverte.net/


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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:35 PM
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8. no n/t <sheesh! this again???>
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:38 PM
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9. Technically, yes.
There are two routes to the Presidency:
1) election
2) succession

The 22nd Amendment places limits on only Route #1. Check it out:
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

Note this scenario in which Bill Clinton is eligible to hold the office of President via route #2:
Kerry wins in 2004 and Bill Clinton becomes his Secretary of State. In the 2006 State of the Union address, everyone ahead of Bill Clinton is killed in a bomb attack on the House chambers. Clinton, deliberately chosen to be the one who stays away from the speech for exactly such an event, in the next person in the line of succession, and thus is sworn-in.

So, I've established that Clinton is indeed eligible to hold the office of President. This makes him eligible to be a candidate for the Vice Presidency, since the Constitution requires him to be eligible to hold the office of President, which is different from being eligible to be elected to the office of President.

It's something of a linguistic exercise, but the words of the 22nd Amendment were very deliberately chosen.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 06:06 PM
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21. You're wrong.
From the 12th Amendment:

" But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 06:08 PM
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22. Actually..
point-out to me where it says "elected" in that statement. "Elected" is the key word here. By the text of the 22nd amendment, Clinton is still eligible to arise to the office via succession. Thus, he is eligible to the office, and thus eligible to run for VP.

Read the 22nd Amendment again. Nothing there places limits on Route #2. Nothing.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:52 PM
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13. If that happens, I may as well not vote, vote Green, or even vote repuke.
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 05:53 PM by HypnoToad
DOMA
DMCA
NAFTA

Wrongfully firing Jocelyn Elders because she dared to speak out and cause people to think about an issue for goodness' sake.., what an obscene crime that was... x( Billy Boy acted purely for the benefit of the pukes because it was 1994, an election year. Didn't help.

Welfare 'reform'
Not to forget: Monica

And on and on and on.

Sorry, but I will never forget the puke-enabling/wrong things he's done.

Okay, I would never vote repuke. And it'd take a lot for me to become a rabid Green, and I think too much NOT to vote... but I'd be very angry and almost tempted nonetheless...
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:58 PM
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16. They would raise holy hell...
The thugs who wipe their ass on the Constitution daily would be railing against a blatant attempt to "subvert the spirit of the Constitution". I can see it now - the hypocrites out in full force.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 05:59 PM
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17. I think it states more than that but I hate reading that stuff.
Nothing is cut and dry in those things. It is like reading the darn stuff when you vote. You think your ave. smart and it is like double speak..... to me any how.I always have to go over and think. If I vote yes does it mean the bill does not pass or does pass. Is it just me or do you have that trouble also?It drives me crazy. It is like the people who come by your house to get your vote. Most will not tell you what party they are in and I have got in yelling fights with them over it. It is really odd.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 06:03 PM
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20. There's no way that Kerry would offer it and that Clinton would accept.
Kerry sure as hell wouldn't want to be overshaowed by his Vice President (which would happen)...nor would Clinton accept it (unless it was a Co-President sort of arrangement).

This idea reminds me of the possibility floated during the 1980 GOP convention. The idea that Ronald Reagan would ask Gerald Ford to be his VP. Never happened, of course.

Terry
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