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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-27-04 12:13 AM Original message |
Why did FBI Special Agent Frasca suppress field agent terrorist memos? |
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 12:51 AM by TruthIsAll
The Orion Online - Speaker: Bush knew about 9/11
snip Regarding the U.S. government's involvement with the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, Ruppert said many CIA and FBI agents knew they were imminent, but they were coerced into silence. "FBI headquarters was punishing the FBI agents in Minneapolis who knew the attacks were coming," Ruppert said. "What they had in FBI headquarters was someone very closely connected to the CIA who was stepping on these investigations." Ruppert said FBI Supervisory Special Agent Dave Frasca stopped five investigations into the possibility of attacks including the suppression of a Phoenix memo stating members of al Qaeda were enrolling in flight schools there. "This is another one of those things in LAPD we used to call a clue," Ruppert said. www.orion-online.net/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/04/09/3e9385c7f0d37 - 33k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG) Dave Frasca is the key supervising special agent in the charge of the FBI's Radical Fundamentalist Unit in Washington D.C. According to Newsweek (June 3, 2002, p. 25) "Frasca was the agent in charge of the Moussaoui case and his office also received the Phoenix memo." The New York Times also confirms that the "FBI clearinghouse for Al Qaeda intelligence was the Bin Laden and Radical Fundamentalist Units...The units had complete access to the Phoenix memorandum, the Moussaoui case and the Ressam debriefings." (Ressam is the man with the bomb intended for the L.A. Airport who was arrested at the Canadian border in December, l999) (New York Times, May 27, 2002, p. A11) Despite intense criticism of Dave Frasca by FBI agent Rowley in her famous report, she has never revealed publicly his name. Yet Patrick J.. Leahy (an anthrax target), Democrat of Vermont; Charles E. Grussley, Republican of Iowa and Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania "have identified Dave Frasca" as the cutting edge of the U.S. Government's pre-September 11 do nothing policy in regards to Al Qaeda terrorists. This short article will detail the key supervisory role Dave Frasca played in the events of September 11. snip Special Agent Dave Frasca occupies a very important position mid-way between the Bush cabinet/FBI leadership and the FBI agents on the ground in various American cities. He is in the unusual position of taking important findings of intended radical Bin Laden-type terrorist actions to his supervisors, especially the heads of the FBI. Clearly, he was, along with the various world intelligence agencies, able to forward enough information through his supervisors to raise concerns with President Bush himself in July 2001. FBI agent Kenneth Williams wrote the famous Phoenix memo on July 10, 2002 warning that Osama Bin Laden's foot soldiers might be training in American flight schools. Special Agent Dave Frasca, as the Head of the Radical Fundamentalist Unit in Washington D.C., received the memo. Kenneth Williams was the most senior member of a joint terrorist task force and according to Ronald Myers, a 31 year FBI veteran and William's former colleague, told the Los Angeles Times "He is one of the strongest agents I have ever met. Anyone in FBI management who wouldn't take what Williams said seriously is a fool." Dave Frasca got the memo but he is no "fool" as we shall see. (cnn.com, May20, 2002) Williams specifically recommended a nation-wide survey of Arab-American students attending flight schools. Unlike 1995, the FBI did not descent on flight schools as recommended by Senior Agent Kenneth Williams. Williams also recommended his memo be shared with other local FBI agents. It never was. The official view is that, unlike 1995, there were not enough agents available for the flight school survey. (Remember the cutbacks and refusals by cabinet members mentioned earlier) Robert Mueller even refused to turn over the William's memo to Arlen Specter, a veteran Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee. It remains "classified." (cnn.com, May 20, 2002) Both Ashcroft and Mueller claim to not know of the memo until after September 11. Even the Rowley letter to Robert Mueller was a "classified letter" but someone in the Congressional Committee released an edited version. The Rowley letter is explosive. In her memo, she says the Minneapolis FBI office identified Moussaoui as "a terrorist threat" from a very early point. He was arrested on August 15, 2001. Rowley reports "within days" the French Intelligence service confirmed "Moussaoui's affiliations with radical fundamentalist Islamic groups." The Minneapolis agents "became desperate" to search the computer lap top taken (3 of 5) from Moussaoui. Enter Dave Frasca. Frasca thought there was not "probable cause" to search the computer even after being informed of the reports from French Intelligence Services. Keep in mind, that Moussaoui had informed his flight instructors that he only wanted to learn how to fly and not to land or take off. When the flight instructors first phoned the Minneapolis office, they didn't get much of a response. The second time they mentioned the "plane as a missile" idea and the local FBI made the rest. snip According to Agent Rowley's 13 page memo to FBI Director Robert Mueller, Dave Frasca threw "up roadblocks and undermined Minneapolis' by now desperate efforts to obtain a FISA search warrant, long after the French Intelligence service provided information and probable cause became clear." (Rowley's memo to FBI, May 21, 2002, page 3) (see the following web site) http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html Not only did Dave Frasca not share the information about Moussaoui to other appropriate intelligence/law enforcement authorities, he also, according to Rowley "never disclosed to the Minneapolis agents that the Phoenix Division had, only three weeks earlier, warned of Al Qaeda operatives in flight schools seeking flight training for terrorists purposes!" (Rowley's memo to FBI, May 21, 2002 p. 3) It is of course impossible to believe that Dave Frasca on his own, is just sitting on this information and not doing anything with it, unless ordered to do so. The Minneapolis agents even tried to do an end run around Dave Frasca and notified the CIA's Counter Terrorist Center. The end result was that FBI headquarters personal (Dave Frasca and unnamed higher ups) "actually chastised the Minneapolis agents for making the direct notification without their approval." (Rowley Report, p. 4) Going even further, Dave Frasca "undercut" the search warrant application by not adding information on Moussaoui's foreign power connections which he had promised Minneapolis agents would be included. He also made damaging changes to the text provided by Minneapolis agents thereby, according to one Minneapolis agent, "setting this up for failure." (Rowley Report p. 4) snip So now the Bush Administration claims Moussaoui is the 20th hijacker. Yet Special Agent Dave Frasca who downplayed all reports of impending terrorist plots (the Phoenix Memo, French Intelligence Reports, the Moussaoui case, etc.) gets to maintain his highly placed position as does his unit Chief Superior. Furthermore, those FBI leaders who did the most stonewalling occupied "critical positions in the FBI SIOC Command Center post September 11." Rowley is particularly upset that Dave Frasca "actually received a promotion some months afterwards." (Rowley Report p. 5) FBI agents don't get promoted for screwing up; they get promoted for a job well done. The key areas for further research are connecting the dots in the chain of command from Dave Frasca to his Unit Chief to the Director of the FBI to John Ashcroft, the Attorney General and President George Bush. Clearly, we have an amazing amount of circumstantial evidence that the Bush Cabinet knew of a forthcoming terrorist attack and decided to allow the first hit in order to mobilize the American People behind their political and economic objectives (crush dissent, war on Iraq , oil pipelines, etc) Now, researchers need to work their way up the ladder starting with Dave Frasca;.and, at the same time, work down the ladder from the Bush Cabinet (the more difficult task). In time, perhaps decades, with the help of a few defectors, we will be able to connect all the dots. snip Clearly, the cover-up was put into play immediately. For Agent Rowley, these statements by her boss caused many sleepless nights and raised for her the fundamental issue of "integrity." (Rowley Report, p. 1) Dave Frasca, on the other hand, has never spoken a word to the press, even though he was interviewed by U.S. Senators. 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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-27-04 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. great compilation, thanks! |
How Frasca was able to stymie multiple investigations over the summer of 2001 goes a long way towards answering the protestation that LIHOP requires a vast network of conspirators. Bullshit it does. It needs a very few to know everything, a handful more at critical junctures to know enough to impede genuine investigations, and the rest to know nothing and simply do as they're ordered. Frasca looks to be in that second group. His Radical-Fundametalist Unit was a valve in the pipeline that needed shutting off.
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-27-04 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. Wow TruthIsAll |
What an amazing compilation of links. :toast:
After watching the 911 Commission hearings, it became very apparent that those in the FBI who dropped the ball and failed to get field information to their superiors, should be forced before the commission to testify before the public. Obviously, Frasca is that man. I'd love to know who placed him in such an important position. Let's hope one of the next public hearings will include someone from the FBI. |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-27-04 05:39 AM Response to Original message |
3. Forgot that name, Frasca -- where is he... |
and what does he have to say?
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-27-04 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
4. The Top 150 Subpoena List for the 9/11 Commission: |
http://www.globalfreepress.com/article.pl?sid=03/05/26/0450229
Wonder how many of these have actually been called to testify? |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-27-04 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. Because of...LIHOP? |
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