OFFICIAL Sixty Minutes Condoleezza Rice Thread....

[slinkerwink]

Discuss her lies, her backpedaling, and the general obsfuscation of the truth by the White House.

[Eurobabe]

1. can't subject myself

to the kimodo dragon lady

[lindashaw]

2. CNN just played a small clip from it, though it hasn't aired yet.

She just repeated what she has said earlier that nothing would please her more than to testify, but she can't, of course. You don't suppose this was recorded before Clarke's appearance on CNN this noon, do you?

[rumguy]

3. when was it taped? anyone know?

[asthmaticeog]

6. This morning

before, during or after Meet The Press, I'm not sure.

[asthmaticeog]

4. Are we going to discuss...

... this stupid basketball game while we wait, and wait, and wait...?

(Fargin' sports ticking me off making me wait for 60 minutes every damn week grumble grumble)

[slinkerwink]

8. the basketball game is on too....grrrrr!

[NashVegas]

9. more grumble grumble

10 minutes into the 2nd quarter? ugh.

[slinkerwink]

10. the second quarter? how many quarters are there in a basketball game?

[asthmaticeog]

13. Um, as many quarters as are in anything?

n/t:)

[NNN0LHI]

27. Eh, girls?

:shrug:

Don

[NashVegas]

35. oh give us a break

:evilgrin:

I even used to do stats, courtside, in college, but we won't talk about how many years ago that was.

[NNN0LHI]

83. I was using sarcasm without saying so. I do it all the time. You know that

Your just trying to make me feel guilty. Aren't you? Now be honest.

Don

[NashVegas]

95. Ask the Devil

on my left shoulder

[NNN0LHI]

103. I knew you were just trying to make me feel bad

:P

Don

[Kahuna]

90. LOL! *Snarf*

nt

[NoMoreRedInk]

15. How many quarters are there in anything?

The answer is usually 4.

However, college basketball is played in halves. And there are 2 of them.

[asthmaticeog]

19. Halves? YOINKS!

OK, that's a relief - this is where my ignorance of sports screws me over sometimes. OK, deep breaths... it'll be on soon enough...

[NashVegas]

23. *feels silly*

but happier.

I wonder if she'll get that lip sheen, like Martin Short?

[Skip Intro]

21. LOL

I'm laughing with you, slinkerwink.

I was looking for the answer too, till I got to the responses.

funny

[slinkerwink]

24. so far, college basketball is two halves, and professional basketball

is four quarters...hmm....IT's ON!

[asthmaticeog]

11. self-deleted

because I'm an idiot.

[mike1963]

16. I think there are 2 halves not 4 quarters...it's nearly over

...

[Kahuna]

80. Those stupid b-ball games is what made me give up watching..

60 mins. years ago. 60 mins used to be the number one rated show for years. I suspect a lot of people like myself got tired of tuning in and not knowing when the show would actually begin. :puke:

[Iceburg]

5. Has Condi gone missing AGAIN?

The Canadian broadcast of 60 Minutes (on now) is showing a re-run. Did Condi change her mind?

[Solomon]

7. I can't see why she's still talking. Hasn't she said enough? I suspect

she will try to explain how she "misspoke" and then agree to testify
under oath. I hope Ed asks her why she told the same lie privately before the commission. It's a big mistake for them to continue to say she won't testify. The american public won't like it.

[Ksec]

12. Hope they ask her why she had to recant her airplanes into buildings

statement. Its glaringly obvious whats going on here and it should be highlighted.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

14. Won't be on until 8:30

:-(

F'in' basketball.

[slinkerwink]

22. with me, politics ALWAYS trumps sports....damn sports...

*mumble*

[truth2power]

17. While we wait....

I'm not into basketball, but I was hoping Xavier would win...my alma mater. <sigh>

[scarletwoman]

18. I'll pass.

I simply cannot bring myself to watch, she just creeps me out too much. I can't stand the sight of her face, much less the sound of her voice.

I feel like maybe I should watch, just to keep up to speed on the latest bush* maladministration line of bullsh*t. But I'd prefer not to endanger my television set, as I might succumb to an irresistable urge to attack it with a heavy blunt instrument...

sw

[AndyP]

28. yeah why does she always look so angry

? I mean I guess she has a good reason (she works with bush) but she should at least *try* to look happy when she's out in public.

[rayantoky]

31. On now 7:30 EST!

:evilgrin: yuk:nopity: :thumbsdown:

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[sampsonblk]

25. He better ask hard questions!

No reason to let her off the hook.

[slinkerwink]

26. Condi is on!

[sampsonblk]

57. Spank that bitch

Go Ed Bradley!

[sampsonblk]

76. Just what I thought, that ain't shit!

She is lying and defelcting the whole time. No straight answers. She shoulda stayed home. This is going to only make it worse.

[Arkana]

29. Condi and slime

She just claimed that "National Security Advisers just _don't_ testify in public." Is this true or just more bullcrap?

[asthmaticeog]

33. I suspect a little of both

I'm guessing that a sitting NSA hasn't testified before (true, provisionally), but that there's no real "principle" involved (bullcrap). Anyone have a stat on this?

[hang a left]

110. that is absolutely the creepiest picture.

I have always wanted to ask where you got it and what the hell is it?

[minkyboodle]

130. Its a scene from the Shining

with W added in with a frightening effect.... That shot and the twins in the movie always creeped me out the most. Its a great sig pic though.
Scott

[DCDemo]

It's not true

Two of her recent predecessors have, Sandy Berger, and Brezinski (sp?).

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

121. That's like saying, "I answer to no one."

It must be amazing to be in Bushco.

[FARAFIELD]

123. actually its happened twice

[Oddman]

30. It will be painful!

I hope they grill the hell out of her!

[slinkerwink]

32. lol! great pic!

[rusty charly]

34. here

we go

[mouse7]

37. Looks like she was in the cast of...

[sniffa]

36. here we go

i'd reaLLy, reaLLy Like, no Love to testify, but i can't.

[rusty charly]

38. the bushies

are so... unprecedented

[sniffa]

50. terribLe messenger to send

condi's doing horribLe! she Looks so nervous.. her hives are starting to appear visibLe through her heavy makeup.. stumbLing at times.

and for christ's sake, can't she get her fucking teeth fixed!?

[Maccagirl]

88. Can we at least have a drinking game

to make this fun?

[Dudley_DUright]

39. She lies right out of the box

The 9/11 commission is not a committee of congress, so her objections are BS.

[Broadslidin]

40. Sensing trouble, my psychiatrist has made it clear to me.......

Last Wednesday evening, my dear Dr. Ernst Kalten Brunner
clearly informed me, I should not watch
this week's 60 Minutes program.
With the help of D.U., I have followed his advice.

Thank You Doctor and Thank You D.U.

[Skip Intro]

41. Aug. 6 PDB? Planes as missles? Did you warn Willie Brown?

Wonder if she'll be asked any of those?

[nwstrn]

Nope, not a one

No question about the outrageous "mushroom cloud" statement, either.

[asthmaticeog]

89. Interview's over.

Not one of those questions.

[drthais]

42. I would love to participate

but I (also) have a lot of trouble looking at her and listening
....I do not believe anything she says
when and if she testifies in public (under oath)
I will more than welcome that
and I will watch
I also avoid watching Bush
but make a point of watching the Sate of the Union
because I think I should

know thine enemies, right?

besides
I just finished House of Bush, House of Saud
and have the Clarke book waiting for me
I think I might take a break and read a novel
I've been through four or five of these books
in the past two weeks

[chelsea0011]

45. "changed their testimony" two days ago

Sept 12 th meeting took place

[rusty charly]

47. she's

repeating her daily show performance: "rolling out maps"

oooh... just heard an obvious edit

[swag]

43. Tell me, the west coaster

Is this all just more 60 Mins eyewash, softballs, and bullshit?

Do they still just exist to frame incompetent auto mechanics?

[slinkerwink]

48. so far, condi's lying and calling clark a liar

[slinkerwink]

54. the reporter's actually grilling her about the sense of urgency

[soleft]

44. We'd been to War with Iraq A COUPLE OF TIMES????

Before 9/11

[Killarney]

99. Was this a huge mistake on her part?

Before 9/11, we only had the Gulf War with Iraq... right? No other wars, right?

How dumb is she?
She said that as of 9/11 we had had two wars with Iraq.

[soleft]

I think it's a symptom of chronic lying, you lost grip of facts

[mandyky]

114. Clinton's Desert Fox might be

considered a war

[Blue_Roses]

133. caught that and

Freudian "slip" maybe? She knew the works were in progress and told on herself

[Blue_Tires]

46. weak so far

60 mins is bent on allowing the administration do damage control

[CatWoman]

51. I think Ed Bradley is asking some good, tough questions,,,,,,,,,

[Solomon]

52. yep

To hell with ed bradley. Not once has he asked her why she said "no one imagined planes would be used as missiles".

I'm pissed.

[sadiesworld]

49. Lie, lies . and more farking lies.

:grr:

[rusty charly]

53. what more could you have done?

stopped the planes?

[CatWoman]

59. dumb bitch

she isn't making any sense, and she knows it.

shall I do the honors?

[0007]

108. I'll do the honors

(((((((((((((((((((((((((BONG))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


Condi, please sit your skany ass down

[nwstrn]

55. She's awful

Question about * administration pre-9/11 approach to terror:

"I would like to know what more could have been done." Please!

[rusty charly]

60. she's confused

who we're fighting

[soleft]

56. Go Ed!!! Woohoo!

[Blasphemer]

63. What did he ask?

nt

[soleft]

82. He brought up Bush's own quote that he was not focused on Al Quada

From Bob Woodward's book, after she had that there was no way terrorism could have been a higher priority.

[Cooley Hurd]

85. Great interview...

...for Dick Clarke.

For Condi, another nail in the coffin of her career. And for her boss!:thumbsup:

[scarletwoman]

58. Watch her mouth -- you know that phrase, "lying through your teeth"?

Her teeth stay clenched together while she speaks, they hardly ever part at all. That's part of what makes her so creepy (imho) to watch.

(And yeah, I know I already said I wouldn't watch, but I went ahead and took a quick peek anyway. Changing the channel now, because I still refuse to subject myself to this crap for a full hour.)

sw

[rusty charly]

64. trotting out

stock phrase #3

world is safer

[chelsea0011]

77. Still hit those talking points no matter what

[Fuzz]

61. Just thought I'd let you in on an insightful freeper response:

This comment is about Ed Bradley:

He looks like a stunt double from the remake of Planet of the Apes.

125 posted on 03/28/2004 7:39:49 PM EST by Trueblackman (I want to be the 44th White President.)

[rumguy]

67. fucking-a

the freeps can go straight to fucking hell!

[PaDUer]

70. What's the url

for the freeper thread?

[Fuzz]

73. Here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1106827/posts

[yardwork]

134. I saw that.

On the same thread they were saying that Clarke can't stand Rice because she's a black woman. But the freepers couldn't restrain themselves from making a racist joke about Ben Bradley.

[Killarney]

62. Iraq was the "world's most dangerous regime"

What the fuck?

Is she an idiot?

I can easily mention a handful of other regimes are were/are more dangerous.

[Puglover]

71. seems to me

she's backing off the attack on Dick Clarke...remember he asked to ratchet down the personal attacks....that being said she ain't saying shit.

[rusty charly]

72. the best thing

condi can do is furrow her brow with the best!

[seventhson]

65. Stupidest thing she said "We have been looking for and been unable to

find a single case where a National Security advisor was willing to testify..."

This is as close a quote as I can get but it sure sounded dumb to me. Because nobody else ever DID it means that she somefuckinghow CAN'T?

Because no one was WILLING to SHE CAN'T???

What is the WORST bullshit (and as a lawyer it REALLY peeves me) is that they are CLAIMING that her testimony under oath would set a bad PRECEDENT ---- BUT BUT BUT a PRECEDENT is only set when something is determined as a matter of LAW by court. It might theoretically BE a bad "political" precedent for a criminal president to have his fellow conspirators testify under oath. But it sets NO legal precedent! NONE!

What she is basically saying is that SHE IS EXERCISING HER FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHT NOT TO INCRIMINATE HERSELF OR THE PRESIDENT!!!

CONDI IS TAKING THE FIFTH!!!! THAT is what all this prevarication and obfuscation is about. Remember that.

and anyways...

National security advisors are relatively new creations in the executive. So there is little "precedent" to even follow POLITICALLY (except the crooked bastards under republicans Bush, Reagan and NIXON!

Even fucking Clinton had to testify under oath when he was sued for a sex case.

Who in the fuck does she think she is FOOLING? Who do Bushes ass followers think they are fooling. Only a piddling few measly republican inbreds would buy an ounce of this horsechit.

NOBODY is fooled by this stupid ass bullshit and Rice looks like a slimey weasel puppet for Bush (just klike all the other fascist madmen ministers and charlatan vampires which surround the moron boyking)

[mike1963]

81. She's not quite stupid enough to not know she's lying. Berger and

Brezinsky both did.

[nwstrn]

98. Yes, she had to qualify it

No testimony by a sitting national security adviser as to "policy," because Sandy Berger testified in front of Congress. Bradley should have pushed her harder on the point.

[hang a left]

116. Why don't you tell us how you really feel.

n/t

[RedSock]

119. didn't 9/11 change everything?

we don't play by the old rules ....

so NOW you talk under oath!!!!!!!!!!

[mzmolly]

131. Have they been looking for another 911 like tragedy too?

wadda buncha f**king idiots. There covering their asses PERIOD!

I recall her chuckling at the *absurd* suggestion that the President testify. Her answer as to why he wouldn't was "Well, he IS the President" :eyes: then she laughed in a dismissive manner.

I wanted to tell her "yes, he is the pResident of the USA where Presidents are f**king accountable the the people!!!!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

[Dudley_DUright]

66. Iraq was developing WMDs??

Sorry, those talking points are now inoperable. Condi, you need to get a new set.

[chelsea0011]

68. "Victory in Iraq"

stay tuned

[slinkerwink]

75. oh, victory is EXPLOSIONS in Baghdad! now I get it!

:eyes:

[Oddman]

69. Are you kidding????

"This was an act of war" - yeah and you went to war with the wrong friggin people!!!!!!

[DancingBear]

74. Well, now we know why she won't testify

The reasons, of course, being that she can't start out every response with "well, my talking points are...."

I think Bradley is doing a commendable job here - asking relelvant questions, and using quotes to back his assertions up.

She is being browbeaten by Bradley - imagine if she was before a live committee!

[slinkerwink]

86. no wonder why condi refuses to testify then

[Skip Intro]

78. Bring up prior knowledge, dammit!

Bring up the warnings they had!

Why won't anybody ask her about that?

[Catherine Vincent]

79. Condi keeps saying we need to focus on who did this to us (re: Al Queda)

Better late than never, I guess.:mad:

[truth2power]

109. She says we should focus on who did this to us...

We're trying our best, Condi. 'course a lot of us here think Bush is the one who's culpable.

[keithyboy]

84. I thought Condi was going to hit a "home run" Instead, she struck out!!!

Wheeeew!!!!

[Justpat]

87. So controlled, so reasonable

the stupid bitch.

She said the previous administration, through their inaction,
let the terrorists gain a sense of their inevitable success
in attacking us.

Then went on to say Iraq was now liberated and isn't that just
the best thing ever. That Iraq was the most destabilizing force
in the region at that time. No mention of the WMD which was
the original reason for the invasion.

[Bozvotros]

91. Unable to apologize....

They will never apologize for the blood they spilled, because they did it with malice aforethought. They knew people would die. They considered it a fair price for their prize since it wasn't their own blood and they still do.

[pinkpops]

92. SOS

[Puglover]

97. HUH?

Is THAT fucking it??? How fuckin lame....she said NOTHING!

[sadiesworld]

93. She cracked and they cut it short.

[sampsonblk]

102. MegaDittos

I think so too. She looked like she was getting a little uhhhh uncomfortable.

[Skip Intro]

105. It did end abrupty

And I cannot believe they had her there one on one taking questions and didn't ask about prior knowledge - which is what bush has been busy trying to deny all week, didn't ask her about "nobody ever imagined" etc.

I get the feeling they cut it short too, but what does that mean? Why would CBS do that?

[MinnFats]

94. Lies, LIES and obfuscation, OBFUSCATION~~!!!!

Lie: "We know he was continuing to develop weapons of mass destruction."

Obfuscation: Despite Bradley's asking the question two or three times, she never answered how she felt when Clarke apologized.


hmmm....perhaps she'd LIKE to apologize and realizes she SHOULD apologize ...but has been ordered to follow the dictates of her satanic svengali, the dark lord Bush

[hang a left]

117. Clarke apologized? Missed that, can you spare a clue?

[Oilwellian]

128. He apologized....

in his beginning statement to the 911 Commission.

[hang a left]

138. OK gotcha, I thought a different apology was being referred to.

thanks.

[mzmolly]

132. He apologized to AMERICANS for failing them on 911.

Not to the Bushies... :hi:

[sampsonblk]

96. Wait, what that IT?

That's the whole interview??

[qanda]

104. I *know*!

I thought there was going to be more after the break. That was lame.

[slinkerwink]

111. yep, 12 MINUTES!

[Catherine Vincent]

100. Is that it?

Geeze.

[sniffa]

101. no apoLogy

ed threw a bunch of curves, incLuding asking if she wouLd apoLogize. she didn't.

[Joanne98]

106. Condi's eyes said, please, please, please don't hurt me

Doesn't it make you sick when a vicious, cruel and inhumane killer pleads for mercy they would never think of giving. She didn't say anything new. She just tried to get a break for herself. Just like a Republican. SELFISH to the core. These people have absolutely no morals. We have to put a stop to them spreading that lie around.
No more morals values crap. It's over.

[kodi]

107. she makes it worse for bush with each word she speaks

she has been unable to articulate a factual response to clarke's allegations of the bush administration not taking terrorism as seriously as the clinton administration did, nor that bush's invasion of iraq did not undermine the war on terrorism.

this isn't "he said/she said" stuff. there is a paper trail that either refutes or substantiates the claims of all parties, and it appears that truth is on clarke's side.

[0007]

112. Can't believe that's it

[Junkdrawer]

113. After being lampooned by Jon Stewert, she STILL used the "it was...

a map of Afghanistan that was rolled out"... talking point line word-for-word. Someone needs to see if she didn't pull a Biden sometime in her academic past.

[0007]

115. I think something is up, for them to stop the interview

without at least saying thank you and all that rot. This was indeed bad.

[Junkdrawer]

118. Do you think her handlers pulled the plug? n/t

[0007]

124. Yes, I think the White House shut it down

[Junkdrawer]

126. I got the feeling that Ed was itching to ask some of the questions...

everyone wants to know: What about the Aug 6. briefing, what about your "no one could have foreseen the use of jets as weapons" statement, etc., etc.

Perhaps he did, the answers from Condi were awful, and the WH said "stop the tape, let's edit a brief segment, and call it a day".

[NNN0LHI]

137. Rove gave her the hook when he seen how things were going n/t

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

120. This was just an "official rebuttal", wasnt it?

Not a real interview? 12 minutes for her to get the talking points out?

I didnt see it, but is that what this was about?

[0007]

125. She sure didn't do much rebuttal as you call it, 'eh?

rebuttal is a good name for a three minute fight.

[PCIntern]

122. Her teeth were new...

they couldn't have gotten any closer and had a tighter shot with the camera. They did some bonding to try to close that space but to no avail. Her discrepancy between her two central incisors is significant, both in the spacing and in the height of the gingiva. that's why she has such a significant problem.

Her 'answers' were less than illuminating and Bradley just kept firing away. Despite here entreaties..."Ed, you know..." He was unimpressed. My wife felt bad for her - I nipped that one in the bud. she apologized.

[PaDUer]

129. Gee..seems everyone in the WH

had something done w/ themselves the past few months, from facelifts to teeth..all while the people are uninsured so they can get good medical care...how interesting!

[Malva Zebrina]

127. Looks like it was cut short--maybe because of the overtime on the bb game

the thing that really pisses me off is the constant repeating of the revision that the war was worth it because SAddam was a really really bad man. They will repeat that o ver and over and over and over and soon it will become truth in the minds of most Americans.

That is not truth and we should do everything we can to not let people forget that Bush lied about Saddam 's WMD in order to invade a country that had no defenses at all. HE invaded a country on lies in order to get it's stuff and establish somehegemony over that part of the world.

We should NEVER let it be forgotten and go down the memory hole.
Bush lied about Saddam's possessions of WMD. He knows he did that that is why the story has changed and that is why they all keep repeating it over and over--Saddam was a bad man and the world is better off withouth him. ARgghhh this makes me so very mad. This is a cover up to Bush's war crimes and they have it all down pat in lock step. Who organizes these things like this? Who has the power over a Condi Rice inorder to make her repeat the mantra like a wooden headed puppet?

[lebkuchen]

135. When are Clarke's e-mails to Rice going to be declassified?

I hope that isn't just another WH promise not kept.

Bring those minutes on!

[Oddman]

136. Condi just shot an episode of extreme makeover

She looks pretty good.

[jamesinca]

139. The letters that were written to 60min last week bashed Clarke

We need to stand up for him, we need to write 60 min and ask whey they did not lay into Rice with hard questions. We need to write into the show and show support of the medias ability to actually be a form of democracy.