Jackie 'Whore' Chan is a Communist Puppet!

[dArKeR]

Jackie Chan Rips Taiwan's Election

TAIPEI, Taiwan - Hong Kong film star Jackie Chan (news) said Sunday that Taiwan's recent presidential election was "the biggest joke in the world."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040329/ap_en_mo/people_jackie_chan_3

I'm putting the WORLD on notice. This is how Fascism, Communism, Brutal Regimes, Nazis, Hitlers rise. The use of immoral instruments masquerading as moral/just people. Chan, speaking from Communist China and bashing Democracy! This is as laughable as Trent Lott saying aWol got more votes. Jackie 'Whore' didn't mention that there are no elections in China but it's obviously the most corrupt and murderous regime on the planet. Where government officials falsely convict citizens, execute them and sell their body parts for cash.

Honk Kong has no ability to vote for it's leader either. And the Communists are trying daily to take away ALL rights of Hong Kong citizens.

I was in Hong Kong when the Mainland Chinese astronaut went on tour in Hong Kong. Who was there as the Communist mouth piece? Jackie 'Whore'. Not only did I read in the Hong Kong newspapers, I spoke to many Hong Kong citizens questioning why Jackie 'Whore' was playing the puppet for the Communists. So many people felt this way, Jackie 'Whore' went on a TV 'attack dog tour' (like Condi Lice is doing now), to try to salvage his reputation. He just kept saying, 'We are all Chinese that's why I do it.'

Everyone I spoke to, and also I saw, personally, HK TV interviews of people standing in line, (The space capsule was put on display at the Space Center next to Kowloon Star Ferry), the Hong Kong people said, 'I don't care about seeing Yang Liwei I only want to see the space capsule.'

Most all HK people were really pissed at Jackie 'Whore' for his actions. Many said he's a traitor to Hong Kong.

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You've got to look at this honestly people! Everyone stop and look what's go-in down! There isn't an official/knowledgable person in the world who'd say Taiwan's election procedures aren't the fairest in the world.

The people protesting are all the Fascists Mainland Chinese who invaded Taiwan in 1949. They are about the most corrupt group on Earth, have been stealing money from Taiwan since 1949 but now no longer have an easy method to steal.

The KMT Party is the richest political party in the world. How did they get this money?

Assassination attempt. Is Jackie 'Whore' willing to take a bullet in the stomach while riding in a Jeep? The investigation is going on but Jackie 'Whore' knows what happened?

You can read just about anywhere the near certainty of ALL Hong Kong media stars being part of the Hong Kong Mafia. Which I would assume has now been taken over by the Communist Chinese Government.

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http://news.1chinastar.com/ll/english/1286178.shtml

HONG KONG - Yang Liwei sang a duet with action star Jackie Chan as Hong Kong lavished a superstar's welcome on China's first astronaut Saturday - a visit derided by critics as a veiled attempt by Beijing to boost the troubled government in this former British colony.

Beijing hopes the trip will shore up patriotism in a territory whose residents remain suspicious of Beijing's Communist regime since becoming part of China six years ago - despite promises that Hong Kong can keep its own administration and Western-style freedoms.

Opposition lawmaker James To said Saturday that Yang had come to ``serve as Tung's cheerleader.'' Tung's standing here has been badly battered by Hong Kong's faltering economy and his attempt to pass an anti-subversion bill, which was scuttled after mass protests.

(This is all I can find now on the web. The daily papers in HK and people were completely disgusted with Jackie 'Whore'.)

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On the jet over to HK I read a mag. (Asian Bussiness?), which had a whole 5 page spread with an A4 pic of KMT Fascist Puppet Taipei Mayor Ma. It was pre-election time about early 2003. It declared Ma as Mr. Asia. The man behind all of Taiwan's success. The leader of all of Asia... just a bunch of puke lies. Not once mentioning the real changes in Taiwan which Chen is totally responsible for. (You can probably ask Mikie Whore about this report since he flys a lot in Asia.)

Any honest person will report Chen is 99% responsible for cleaning up Taiwan.

[DarkPhenyx]

1. Too bad you couldn't make your point w/o...

...all the name calling and other silliness. It makes your argument so much less believable and our accusations seem childish. Most unfortunate.

[Tempest]

2. OxyCotin abuse?

There has to be a logical explanation for it.

[DarkPhenyx]

3. naaaa. dArKeR is usually more rational.

I blame it on an overly emotional involvement in the issue. You see that a lot in political forums.

[htuttle]

4. Correction

So-called 'Red' China hasn't been 'Communist' in many years.

They're just plain totalitarians now -- the only thing Communist about them is the name of their ruling party.

[Heyo]

5. Communist = Totalitarian

They are practically one in the same.. once cannot exist without the other...

Heyo

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

8. Wow, Pinochet, Videla and Somoza were Communists? I didn't know.

Not to mention the House of Saud and the late ayatollah Khomeini. And Suharto. And Marcos. And, and, and...

Yeah, one and the same. Uh-huh.

[htuttle]

9. I don't think one should take pride in imprecision, confusion...

...and ignorance.

Without understanding distinctions, even if you consider them 'the same', we might end up invading the wrong country and blowing our treasury and reputation in a war built on lies.

Oops! Too late. Already happened.

[Heyo]

14. Don't consider them really exatly "the same" per se....

The point I was trying to make, more specifically... is that communism cannot exist without a totalitarian dictatorship. IMHO...

There are also different types of the collectivist "you are the state and the state is you" system.. all of which require an iron fist.. that aren't called "communist"

Nazi Germany wasn't considered communist... but you could argue they shared some of the collectivist ideals... no one is in individual, everyone is part of an all encompassing state..

Screw that, I'll keep my individuality any day.

Heyo

[minkyboodle]

11. LOL

[mgc1961]

12. Under the right...

circumstances, yes.

However, Communism is not by definition any more totalistic than Capitalism. The difference is one is based on possession of office while the other is based on possession of wealth.

[w4rma]

15. China is a fascist state. It is no longer Communist,

but it is still totalitarian, except now it is capitalist:

PBS: So it's no longer a communist state?
Kissinger: I don't consider China a communist state, no. I know that sounds paradoxical, but it's my view.

PBS: It's not a party of the workers and the peasants?
Kissinger: Certainly not a party of the workers and the peasants. In fact, Jiang Zemin in recent weeks has officially said that capitalists and the entrepreneurs should be enrolled in the Communist Party.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/china/interviews/kissinger.html

capitalism and socialism are opposite ends of an axis.
democracy and dictatorship/monarchy are opposite ends of another axis.

A state can be totalitarian and capitalist (fascism):

“Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.” -- Benito Mussolini

“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.” -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

A state can be totalitarian and socialist (communism)
A state can be democratic and capitalist.
A state can be democratic and socialist.
A state can be anywhere inbetween the two axis. The U.S. has both capitalist policies and socialist policies.

Here is a list of some of the socialist ones:
socialized armed forces
socialized water
socialized police
socialized fired department
social(ized) security
medicare
road building/maintanance
public waste and water treatment
public schools

[Kathy in Cambridge]

17. Load of crap

a true communist country has never existed. Russia and those other countries were dictatorships. Many small countries like Guatemala in 1953, Chile in the early '70s and Nicaragua in the late '70s tried to establish DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST governments, only to be taken down by US-Supported right-wing forces.

Nice to see you're still on the side of 'righteousness'. Maybe reading history might help. :eyes:

[Heyo]

18. Oh, Okay....

The old "communism has never truly been tried" argument again...

So you decided to go that route...

Hey, to each their own.

Heyo

[Kathy in Cambridge]

19. Your argument is moot because communism has never been tried

and, no I'm not a 'commie'; I'm a moderate Democrat. Who are you voting for in November, dare I ask? :eyes:

[dArKeR]

6. You're right but I still like using 'Red Communist Pig'. It has a more

deep rooted nerve because of our media upbringing with John Wayne fighting the 'dirty commies.' 'Communist Pig' sounds so much more vulgar than 'Totalitarian Pig'. But the truth can't be Fuzzy Math. It's there above in facts, not in opinion.

[charlie]

7. True dat

Hypercapitalism branded as the Will of the People is the name of the game now. Still, it saddens me to hear of Jackie (of all people!) shilling for the old guard authoritarian Kuomintang. There's practically no degree of separation between the old men of the mainland and the like s of Lee anymore.

[MetaTrope]

10. Hong Kong has always viewed Taiwan politics as a joke

Or so it appears in the constant movie depiction of physical brawls by statesmen and mob boss politicians.

And Jackie Chan grew up in a circus. What do you expect, brilliant political insight?

[NewJeffCT]

13. most actors shouldn't be taken so seriously

We laugh at a lot of American stars here when they espouse political views... why should a star from Hong Kong be different?

If Chan had stood up from his perch in Hong Kong and called Florida 2000 a joke, which it was, I'm sure many on here would have cheered him on...

And, I am guessing that many in HK, mainland China & Taiwan felt the election was a bit of a joke with disenfranchised voters, the assassination attempt (which probably has as many theories as the JFK assassination 40 years agao), etc

[w4rma]

16. Blast. I like Jackie Chan alot. He's always struck me as a really good guy

He still does strike me as a really good guy. I just disagree with him on this particular issue.

Nonetheless, he seems reasonable, so I'd bet that if enough people contacted him he'd probably look at the other side of the issue.

[dArKeR]

20. I used to think the same as you did. Honestly! - That's why I raised

the alarm on this. It's like finding a family relative that broke into your house and is holding your wives jewelry as he's jumping out of the window. There's no mistake what's going on. My first warning was when I was in HK and first hand read the newspapers, TV, and people. But then I let him go and accepted, 'we are all Chinese'. (And in fact the Hong Kong people would break-off from China in a second if they could without being murdered by the Communist Red 'Peoples' Buthchering Army.)

I know exactly what's going on in Taiwan first hand and you could also buy checking out other news sources.

I think even a bias Repuke could see through this one. Jackie 'Whore' is a patsy. He's either paying off old Mafia debts or he's accumulating new assets. There's no way around this one.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

21. After shoveling away all of the name-calling,...

...I'm convinced more than ever that Chan may actually know more about Chinese politics, including the events that have taken place in Taiwan, than anyone currently posting to this board.

Additionally, while you're ranting and raving about the political events taking place thousands of miles from the U. S., we have our own situation right here at home that includes:

*a bloodless coup in December 2000;

*a so-called "terrorist" attack on 911 which resulted in stronger domestic controls as well as an attack on a small dirt-poor Middle Eastern country that our NeoCon leaders blamed for the events of 911;

*tax-cuts for the super-wealthy;

*an illegal invasion of another Middle Eastern country based on a pack of lies resulting in the deaths of hundreds, perhaps thousands of American servicemen as well as the deaths of tens of thousands of Iraqis who had the misfortune of living in the wrong country at the wrong time;

*outsourcing of hundreds of thousands of IT, computer engineering, and manufacturing jobs to increase the wealth of the super-wealthy even more;

*a national public school system that is slowly being destroyed by the educational policies of the NeoCon Junta;

*a national healthcare system, including Medicare, that is slowly being destroyed by the economic policies of the NeoCon Junta;

*a national pension system known as Social Security that is slowly being destroyed by the economic policies of the NeoCon Junta;

*yet more saber-rattling at Iran, Syria, North Korea, Venezuela, and many other countries to be threatened later;

*a military draft that appears to be ready to operate in mid-2005 when all of our sons and daughters of age will be subject to being sent to a strange land to kill or be killed in service to the NeoCon Junta.

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