protesters surround Rove's house - Rove pitches a fit

[donsu]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31890-2004Mar28.html

Several hundred people stormed the small yard of President Bush's chief political strategist, Karl Rove, yesterday afternoon, pounding on his windows, shoving signs at others and challenging Rove to talk to them about a bill that deals with educational opportunities for immigrants.

Protesters poured out of one school bus after another, piercing an otherwise quiet, peaceful Sunday in Rove's Palisades neighborhood in Northwest, chanting, "Karl, Karl, come on out! See what the DREAM Act is all about!"

Rove obliged their first request and opened his door long enough to say, "Get off my property."

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Shortly thereafter, sirens shot through the neighborhood and Secret Service agents and D.C. police joined the crowd on the lawn. Rove opened his door long enough to talk to an officer, and the crowd serenaded them with a stanza of "America the Beautiful."
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The article ends with these words: "He also said, 'Don't ever dare to come back,' " Palacios said. "We will, if he continues to ignore us."


Go ahead Rove, ignore them and us at your peril.

[WoodrowFan]

1. he even lied..

he even lied about his kids. He said "you scared my kids!" Later a spokeman said one of them was a neighbor's kid. A tiny lie but geeze, he can't move his lips without SOME lie coming out!

[goclark]

2. Help me out, what is their issue?

I am not on top of their issue. However, whatever it is, they are truly going in the right direction.

That is one bus I would like to ride on!

[mhr]

3. We Must Take The Fight To These People

Some at DU want to continue playing nice with the republicans through cooperation and appeasement.

If this has not worked in the past, why will work in the future?

The republicans need to be made very uncomfortable for supporting the policies of KKK Karl Rove and company.

A little fear of retribution goes along way toward stemming future policies, thoughts and actions.

As Thomas Jefferson said,

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

[Snow]

6. I think you should reconsider your use of the term "appeasement"

it's a favorite of warhawks everywhere who use it to claim anyone with lack of sufficient belligerence is similar to Neville Chamberlain, who was widely disparaged for diplomatically acceding to Hitler's takeover of, was it Poland? Maybe not - Austria?

Anyway, this is a hot pejorative that we heard a lot early last year when those of us trying to prevent the Iraq war were accused of "appeasing" the hitlerian saddam.

[truthspeaker]

8. thanks for providing an example of appeasement

[Snow]

9. Sorry, I'm not good with subtlety and sarcasm...

are you disagreeing with me here? If so, how?

[truthspeaker]

11. by discouraging us from using the term "appeasement"

you are appeasing the Republicans.

[Snow]

12. Feel free to use it, both of you -

I'm raising a point of information, is all. To my mind this is weak argument, however - logical fallacy of prejudicial language.
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/pl.htm
there's also elements of spotlighting:
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/spotlight.html
and appeal to emotion.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-emotion.html

I really think we can argue a case better than that. Although I am singularly unimpressed by your response to my question - in fact you make no sense, if you'll pardon the bluntness.

[truthspeaker]

13. I claim that the democratic party lacks sufficient belligerence

in the face of an extremely belligerent foe, the Republican party. Hence my use of the term "appeasement". We are not trying to make a logical argument. American voters, unforunately, do not tend to be swayed by logical arguments.

[Snow]

14. I agree with that. However, who's your audience here? - eom-

[truthspeaker]

16. democrats, some of whom lack sufficient belligerence

[mhr]

10. Thanks truthspeaker!

eom

[9215]

15. HELL YEA!!

Don't let the bastids rest, keep the noise up. They have no intention of giving the people a voice and should not even be in office. Fuck being nice.

[cyclezealot]

4. this is methods Rove's ilk have done for years.

I take this as a challenge..If only I lived closer, I wish so I could participate...Hope you DC duers feel challenged...It is our right as long as we do obey the laws and Rove's property rights.?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

5. And why were Secret Service agents involved?

He's just an advisor; he's entitled to protection?!?

[Catherine Vincent]

7. Fat boy Rove already being discussed here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1306649&mesg_id=1306649