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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:48 PM
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Okay, I am now officially FRIGHTENED
Edited on Tue Mar-30-04 12:03 AM by troublemaker
NBC, MSNBC and news services
Updated: 7:42 p.m. ET March 29, 2004

Last paragraph (emphasis added):

"U.S. officials told NBC News that the full record of Clarke’s testimony two years ago would not be declassified. They said that at the request of the White House, however, the CIA was going through the transcript to see what could be declassified, with an eye toward pointing out contradictions."

MSNBC.com’s Alex Johnson, NBC’s Andrea Mitchell, The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4623066/
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If a US official really said this to Andrea Mitchell then this actually is Watergate 2.0. Keep in mind, it's not just that they are doing something Nixon was forced out of office for, but that they are actually briefing reporters about it.

Please, after checking it out for yourself (always a good idea) send this information to everyone--every big and little media source that isn't reporting the news and every Democratic congressperson who isn't speaking out about this.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:50 PM
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1. that's horrible! it's the equivalent of cherry-picking
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:34 AM
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18. Clarke should sue to have entire testimony declassified.
This is going to bring democracy to its knees.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:21 PM
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31. he has already said he would
insist that all the docs be declassified, including certain memos he knows they'd try to suppress. this man is pro, he knew what he was in for and is prepared.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:51 PM
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2. What a steaming, tepid pile of shit.
Total injustice. Deceitful, lying, shit-eating sons-a-bitches.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:52 PM
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3. So, we can take items out of context?
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 11:52 PM by lunabush
Will they take entire paragraphs? Sentences? Or, will it just be words, jumbled so they say what they want them to say? Bastards.
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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:09 PM
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27. It should look like this:
The original sentence would be "I am appalled that the Bush administration is not actively pursuing bin Laden, because I love our country and it is important that we catch him."

That would become: "I am appalled that the Bush administration is...actively pursuing bin Laden, because I love...him."
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bunk76 Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:55 PM
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4. Did you...
think these facists would play fair?
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:55 PM
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5. so the cia
has become an arm of the republican party. I don't even know what to say, other than to just sigh. Welcome to the fascist states of 'MareKa.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:00 AM
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10. "Become"? Newsflash: Bush's daddy's CIA has BEEN an arm of the
CONs for at least the past decade. Clinton wasn't hounded by just anybody. There's no way they could have dug up as much dirt as they did on him without the help of the CIA. And, in my ever-growing state of paranoia, I truly believe Monica was somehow connected to them in a more-than-innocent way.
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:32 AM
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16. that having been said, I believe that the CIA has had enough of
the Bush lies, deceit, ineptitude and blaming of others. The CIA will take both him and significant others/cronies down in its own special way in the weeks to come. * will be toast in 3-4 months - count on it.
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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:56 PM
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22. The CIA is probably so wrapped up in it that their hands are tied
I honestly don't think they could bring down the BFEE without bringing themselves and maybe the whole damn government down with them.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:16 PM
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30. actually, I have to defend the CIA here
It's very strange to be on a thread defending the CIA, but the CIA has a lot of people like Lou Dobbs and Richard Clarke right now. Pissed off traditional Republicans who see the damage the neo-con freaks are doing to this country.

The CIA was the one screaming that invading Iraq was pointless, remember? The CIA has men on the ground all over Iraq right now getting shot at watching that disaster unfold.

I wish the CIA was the one making the decisions on the Clarke transcript... it would probably come out pretty well for Clarke.

Unfortunately, the NSA is what will be making the decisions on the declassification, and nobody outside or inside the beltway has a window into the mind of the NSA. NSA are the spook's spook's.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 07:14 PM
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34. At least now we know it's official!
We are more fucked than we thought - as is the entire world!! Amerika is the new Nazi/Soviet Rome War Machine!!

Watergate every day of the week would barely raise an eyebrow today!!
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:55 PM
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6. You're surprised? Just wait - it will get worse.
If we have an election at all - if we have an honest election - if. . . Well, hell. I don't think it will happen. The faint background song of the "Horst Wessel Song" grows louder with each passing week.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:59 PM
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9. Right..and if...
These pigs are given another 4 years, kiss the frail and wilted petals of democracy goodbye. We're f*cked.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:56 PM
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7. are you sure this
is a news source and not a page from a previously unpublished chapter of 1984?? :puke:
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bushbegone04 Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:58 PM
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8. unreal
this is too much to take
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:01 AM
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11. Guilty, guilty, guilty!
For those who recall the immortal words of Doonesbury.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:03 AM
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12. Remember, too, that Cheney's in charge of classifying documents...
so it's a done deal.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:13 AM
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13. The cats out of the bag tho
Clarke called them on it on MTP demanding declassifying of everything..emails, testimony, everything
Now all we can hope for is the press covers that the WH is stalling and using the CIA to cover up and do damage control..
If the press continues to ignore it, and no others rats jump ship, and Katherine Gun and Lt Col Karen Kwiatowski are ignored by the press, we are in trouble.
It all boils down to real journalists exposing it to mainstream Americans, versus journalists who lie and spin to cover their own asses.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:21 AM
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14. Is there another Woodward & Bernstein today?
Those 2 guys are too old and intrenched today, but aren't there any new reporters, hungry to find the truth and make their name?
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:02 PM
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25. yeah....
the BELTWAY BOYS on FOX :-(
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 04:23 PM
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32. Beltway boys wouldn't report neg against Shrub if they got
paid TRIPLE OT!!!! The FEW times I accidentally saw them, they were a joke!
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:59 PM
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23. That's right. Whomever medio owners favor will win the election.
Its as simple as that.
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The Spirit of JFK Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:25 AM
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15. Clarke Already Called it
When calling for his testimony to be declassified and released (along with everyone else's) Clarke emphasized that it should ALL be declassified...so that nothing would be taken out of context. He alluded to the fact that this would probably happen.

This is could make them look like they have even more to hide.

"well, after all that fuss, we really aren't going to declassify the documents, but we are going to have our top CIA decoders look at it and rearrange the letters in his testimony until we prove Clarke said something else."

Weasel slimeballs....

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Stargleamer Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:34 AM
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17. Taking things out of context....
"Bush" <cut, cut, cut> "did" <cut, cut, cut> "everything" <cut, cut, cut> "in his power" <cut, cut, cut> "to prevent" <cut, cut, cut> "terorism".

The venomous smearing of Clarke shows no signs of abating.
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DrZhivago Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:05 AM
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19. the CIA's purpose has and always be to promote big business
at any cost. The question is through whom will they decide to do so in bush or kerry, George Tenet has taken heat but whos to say hes not in bed with the bushies. I believe deep inside the CIA there is strong anti-bush sentiments at the lower levels but high up in the admin there are still friends of chimps daddy, so I bet there is internal turmoil as to who they will elect this year.

Yes they have the power to make or break a candidate. I think they know Kerry will increase funding but might do some house cleaning whereas Bush hasn't and most likely has promised Tenet he won't. Then again Tenet probably knows he's history next year if chimp gets elected.
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:29 AM
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20. Yes, this is scary BUT .......
now it's out there, before the election, it's okay (I am the eternal optimist) Confirmed GOP are going to vote for Bush NO MATTER WHAT. The people that need to know about this are the ones who haven't made up their mind on who to vote for or to even vote at all. The more this information gets out to THEM the better. They can come to their own conclusions. Information is power. Spread the word (and the article) to anyone and everyone.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:51 PM
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21. Hi TexasBushwhacker!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:59 PM
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24. hmmmm
With the administration fearbots solemnly assuring us daily that another attack will definitely happen, wouldn't it be far better to have CIA do something a teensy bit more important, like, say, hunting down the plotters *before* they attack?

It's like the FBI investigating a McDonalds' game the month before 9/11. Great use of resources, I know I for one will sleep easier tonight knowing CIA is NOT on their duty posts.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:54 PM
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26. In summary, we conclude...
...that members of the administration, and primarily President George W. Bush, actively hindered the investigation of the events of September 11, 2001. Our investigation proves that President Bush is not only incompetent, but criminally liable (reference testimony, pages 184-219, inclusive). The members of the commission believe that the best -- and only -- option open to the American people at this point is to demand that congress immediately begin impeachment proceedings against the incumbent President. Only in this manner can the safety and security of the United States be restored to the pre-eminent position the citizens deserve. In our opinion, the massive pattern of deception by this administration has placed the country in serious peril. If there were ever a time for patriots who love this country to step forward and remove a sitting president, this is most assuredly the time. It pains us all to say this, but the facts in evidence prove to us that this is the most criminal administration the United States has ever had.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:12 PM
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28. lmao- it's funny because it's true.
If I weren't so disgusted by this latest move, I'd laugh.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:14 PM
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29. Me too. They are in control of the information.
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 06:24 PM
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33. Paging Rosemary Woods
For those who are old enough to remember. She was Nixon secretary who "accidentally" erased his tapes.

(This is a flashback to j Edgar Hoover/Nixon defamation of America, without the great music)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 07:51 PM
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36. "without the great music"
lol, did I get that right? You're slamming republicans and boosting 70's music at the same time? LOL
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 07:27 PM
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35. The Bush gang brings the U.S. to a new low
This is outrageous...Josh Marshall also noted this on talkingpointsmemo...

now, rather than lie and try to cover it up, they are lying and telling you they are going to do it, and you can't do anything about it.

Our nation is in real danger...and the most dangerous people in America right now are the gang of thugs in the executive branch, because they are undermining EVERYTHING that has to do with the contract between us, as citizens, and those who are elected, supposedly, to represent us.

As John Dean says...WORSE THAN WATERGATE.

fwiw- the CIA isn't a monolith...there are good guys and bad guys in the CIA. The ones who are beholden to the Bush crew are, most certainly, the bad guys.

I wonder how much Poppy was involved in Gladio and the strategy of tension in Europe, when the left was blamed for bombings which were carried out by facists, with the help and funding of the CIA?
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