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harrison Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:11 AM
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So, CNN's Bill Schneider is a member of PNAC? Got to love that
kind of objectivity. No wonder the CNN poll I saw last night had Bush ahead of Kerry. Sometimes the media whores in this country make me want to vomit.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:15 AM
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1. sometimes?
I would skinny as a pin were I to give in to the times the whore media makes me want to puke DAILY.....

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:


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rfkrocks Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:21 AM
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2. Gee our media is liberal left wing nuts don't you know?
There is literally no place on TV to get news that isn't right wing bought and paid for-I still listen to NPR on radio-CNN sometimes-MSNBC is a disaster-I mean CNN is always held up to be the liberal station-i don't know what kind of wacky weed these people smoke-no media type wants Kerry to win-except Jon Stewart!
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:30 AM
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4. CNN as the liberal station

Believe it or not, it was, back in the Ted Turner days. Then somewhere along the line, it switched from actual news to headline news, celebrity news shows, happy talk morning shows etc. Not sure if this was before or after they were sold. I can't watch it at all, just that I recognize the faces Bill Hemmer or Paula Zahn is bad enough.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:23 AM
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3. Yes, Bill is a Stalinist shilling for Pravda, metaphorically speaking
But I'm suuuuurrre that his honesty and journalistic integrity prevents him from bringing his opinion into his "Fair Und Balanced" TV.

</dripping sarcasm off>

Pardon me. I have to vomit.

:puke: :puke: :puke:
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:37 AM
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5. Bill "Attack Iraq" Schneider
Edited on Tue Mar-30-04 08:38 AM by HFishbine
PNAC letter To President Clinton, January 26, 1998, signed by Bill Schneider (among other chicken hawks):

Dear Mr. President:

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

The policy of “containment” of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq’s chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam’s secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons.


Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world’s supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President, the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat.


Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate. The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.

We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council.

We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.


http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

PNAC letter To President Bush, September 20, 2001, signed by Bill Schneider (among other chicken hawks):

Dear Mr. President,

We write to endorse your admirable commitment to “lead the world to victory” in the war against terrorism. We fully support your call for “a broad and sustained campaign” against the “terrorist organizations and those who harbor and support them.” We agree with Secretary of State Powell that the United States must find and punish the perpetrators of the horrific attack of September 11, and we must, as he said, “go after terrorism wherever we find it in the world” and “get it by its branch and root.” We agree with the Secretary of State that U.S. policy must aim not only at finding the people responsible for this incident, but must also target those “other groups out there that mean us no good” and “that have conducted attacks previously against U.S. personnel, U.S. interests and our allies.”

In order to carry out this “first war of the 21st century” successfully, and in order, as you have said, to do future “generations a favor by coming together and whipping terrorism,” we believe the following steps are necessary parts of a comprehensive strategy.

Osama bin Laden

We agree that a key goal, but by no means the only goal, of the current war on terrorism should be to capture or kill Osama bin Laden, and to destroy his network of associates. To this end, we support the necessary military action in Afghanistan and the provision of substantial financial and military assistance to the anti-Taliban forces in that country.

Iraq

We agree with Secretary of State Powell’s recent statement that Saddam Hussein “is one of the leading terrorists on the face of the Earth….” It may be that the Iraqi government provided assistance in some form to the recent attack on the United States. But even if evidence does not link Iraq directly to the attack, any strategy aiming at the eradication of terrorism and its sponsors must include a determined effort to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq. Failure to undertake such an effort will constitute an early and perhaps decisive surrender in the war on international terrorism. The United States must therefore provide full military and financial support to the Iraqi opposition. American military force should be used to provide a “safe zone” in Iraq from which the opposition can operate. And American forces must be prepared to back up our commitment to the Iraqi opposition by all necessary means.

Hezbollah

Hezbollah is one of the leading terrorist organizations in the world. It is suspected of having been involved in the 1998 bombings of the American embassies in Africa, and implicated in the bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983. Hezbollah clearly falls in the category cited by Secretary Powell of groups “that mean us no good” and “that have conducted attacks previously against U.S. personnel, U.S. interests and our allies.” Therefore, any war against terrorism must target Hezbollah. We believe the administration should demand that Iran and Syria immediately cease all military, financial, and political support for Hezbollah and its operations. Should Iran and Syria refuse to comply, the administration should consider appropriate measures of retaliation against these known state sponsors of terrorism.

Israel and the Palestinian Authority

Israel has been and remains America’s staunchest ally against international terrorism, especially in the Middle East. The United States should fully support our fellow democracy in its fight against terrorism. We should insist that the Palestinian Authority put a stop to terrorism emanating from territories under its control and imprison those planning terrorist attacks against Israel. Until the Palestinian Authority moves against terror, the United States should provide it no further assistance.

U.S. Defense Budget

A serious and victorious war on terrorism will require a large increase in defense spending. Fighting this war may well require the United States to engage a well-armed foe, and will also require that we remain capable of defending our interests elsewhere in the world. We urge that there be no hesitation in requesting whatever funds for defense are needed to allow us to win this war.

There is, of course, much more that will have to be done. Diplomatic efforts will be required to enlist other nations’ aid in this war on terrorism. Economic and financial tools at our disposal will have to be used. There are other actions of a military nature that may well be needed. However, in our judgement the steps outlined above constitute the minimum necessary if this war is to be fought effectively and brought to a successful conclusion. Our purpose in writing is to assure you of our support as you do what must be done to lead the nation to victory in this fight.


http://www.newamericancentury.org/Bushletter.htm

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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:42 AM
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7. Ah ha...just what I needed - thank you. n/t
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:41 AM
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6. Do you have a link for this info?
Thanks ;)
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:02 AM
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8. Imagine if Schneider had as much air time as Wolf Blitzer.
Wolfie provides much more air time to his fellow Neo-CONS. Let's face it, the Neo-CONS at this moment in history control Bush/Cheney and a good portion of the mass media/propaganda mills. Dick Cheney is a signator on one of those PNAC documents as is his Chief of Staff Scooter Libby among others in the Bush Cabal.

from the PNAC

June 3, 1997

American foreign and defense policy is adrift. Conservatives have criticized the incoherent policies of the Clinton Administration. They have also resisted isolationist impulses from within their own ranks. But conservatives have not confidently advanced a strategic vision of America's role in the world. They have not set forth guiding principles for American foreign policy. They have allowed differences over tactics to obscure potential agreement on strategic objectives. And they have not fought for a defense budget that would maintain American security and advance American interests in the new century.

We aim to change this. We aim to make the case and rally support for American global leadership.


As the 20th century draws to a close, the United States stands as the world's preeminent power. Having led the West to victory in the Cold War, America faces an opportunity and a challenge: Does the United States have the vision to build upon the achievements of past decades? Does the United States have the resolve to shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests?


We are in danger of squandering the opportunity and failing the challenge. We are living off the capital -- both the military investments and the foreign policy achievements -- built up by past administrations. Cuts in foreign affairs and defense spending, inattention to the tools of statecraft, and inconstant leadership are making it increasingly difficult to sustain American influence around the world. And the promise of short-term commercial benefits threatens to override strategic considerations. As a consequence, we are jeopardizing the nation's ability to meet present threats and to deal with potentially greater challenges that lie ahead.

We seem to have forgotten the essential elements of the Reagan Administration's success: a military that is strong and ready to meet both present and future challenges; a foreign policy that boldly and purposefully promotes American principles abroad; and national leadership that accepts the United States' global responsibilities.


Of course, the United States must be prudent in how it exercises its power. But we cannot safely avoid the responsibilities of global leadership or the costs that are associated with its exercise. America has a vital role in maintaining peace and security in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. If we shirk our responsibilities, we invite challenges to our fundamental interests. The history of the 20th century should have taught us that it is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they become dire. The history of this century should have taught us to embrace the cause of American leadership.

Our aim is to remind Americans of these lessons and to draw their consequences for today. Here are four consequences:

• we need to increase defense spending significantly if we are to carry out our global
responsibilities today and modernize our armed forces for the future;


• we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values;


• we need to promote the cause of political and economic freedom abroad;


• we need to accept responsibility for America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles.

Such a Reaganite policy of military strength and moral clarity may not be fashionable today. But it is necessary if the United States is to build on the successes of this past century and to ensure our security and our greatness in the next.

Elliott Abrams Gary Bauer William J. Bennett Jeb Bush Dick Cheney Eliot A. Cohen Midge Decter Paula Dobriansky Steve Forbes Aaron Friedberg Francis Fukuyama Frank Gaffney Fred C. Ikle Donald Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad I. Lewis Libby Norman Podhoretz Dan Quayle Peter W. Rodman Stephen P. Rosen Henry S. Rowen Donald Rumsfeld Vin Weber George Weigel Paul Wolfowitz


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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:07 AM
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9. It's up to us to pull together
expose truth and take our country back as soon as possible. Time is running out.
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:09 AM
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10. Anyone have that web link on who contributed to who?
would like to find out what schneider and the like gave to who
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:10 AM
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11. That would be interesting to find out
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 09:15 AM
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12. Yes he's a member
It's on their website, He is sometimes referred to a "Potted plant" by i think american politics journal, one of their writers sometimes mentions him as that. I think it should be under his name when he reports for cnn just like they do when they have guests on, a little kiron with their name and stink tank association.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 10:01 AM
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13. It's a different Bill Schneider.
I looked this up a year or so ago and I remember finding out that the Bill Schneider of PNAC and the Bill Schneider of CNN are 2 different guys.

I looked up their bios--they have different bios altogether.


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