What percentage did Clarke tithe to the 911 families?

[zebrathirtythree]

Does anyone recall what amount of his 911 book sales was going to go to the 911 families?

[wryter2000]

1. Welcome to DU

He stated on Meet the Press, I think, that he was going to donate quite a bit but hadn't decided on how much. Some to dead soldiers' families, too. One of the issues is that he's being threatened with "you'll never make another nickle in this town," so he needs to plan for his own future accordingly.

Welcome to DU.

[zebrathirtythree]

Thanks

I know I could live the rest of my life quite comfortably with 750k.

I hope he does the same and gives the rest to charity.

[BlueEyedSon]

65. I bet you are bad at math, or 97 years old

[Wickerman]

2. He didn't say, based on the unknown of actual sales

but, personally, I'd say it's none-of-my-fucking-business-percent

[zebrathirtythree]

13. Anyone that profits off of 911 is...

some-of-my-fucking-business-percent.

[Hamlette]

31. anyone who profits off 9-11?

Zebrea 33 do you include the GOP? Haliburton? Cheney? Bush? All the other people who wrote books about it?

This is not exactly a case where the criminal writes a book about the crime and profits. Clarke did nothing wrong.

I also don't get why all the attention. Clarke hasn't said one thing that tons of other people have said before, including Bush himself (on how urgent terrorism was in the WH before 9-11)

[Wickerman]

37. And don't forget the message that Bush* wants us to.

the world is less safe because Bush went into Iraq instead of finishing Al Queda. No rocket science required to realize Clark is absolutely correct there.

Thanks Hamlette!

:hi:

[alcuno]

Don't forget Guiliani and Kerik.

How about David Kay and James Woolsey. Shameless war profiteers all.

[DarkPhenyx]

64. How about the people trying to get hired because of it.

They need to donate a percentage of their salary don't you think?

[revcarol]

34. Then, fer sure, you are castigating the Pretzledent for SELLING

his picture of himself on AF1 as he ran around the country hiding while Richard Clarke had to totally run the whole country in the situation room!!

Was it $500 or $1000 for an autographed picture of the 9/11 "hero," our brave President in charge of the nation?

You do agree, don't you, that the Republican Party should give back all that money?

[Junkdrawer]

35. The man puts his professional future on the line to set the record...

straight and you characterize it as "profiting off 9-11"????

Why do I think we have a live one here?

[markses]

43. Tell that to Mr. George Bush

Who sold photos of himself on 9/11 in order to raise money for his reelection.

Tell that to every street vendor who sold a T-Shirt, every business that put out a commemorative coin, or album, or documentary: How much does Blockbuster video contribute for each rental of 9/11 In Memoriam? How much has Toby Keith contributed?

Let's go further. Senate majority leader Bill Frist contributed to the victims of the Anthrax attacks from the profits of his book "When Every Moment Counts: What You Need to Know About Bioterrorism From the Senate's Only Doctor"? How about every conservative commentator that written a book connected to 9/11? How much have they contributed?

Let's be outraged. Indeed. Let's be. But let's not be selective. let's be outraged over the principle, rather than over the party involved.

[blm]

59. Care to explain HOW Clarke is profitting off 9-11?

Looks to me like he wants the TRUTH told with NO interest in lining his bank account.

Do you have equal diregard for Bush selling PHOTOS of himself on 9-11 or Frist's book or Giuliani or Kerik or other Bush whores like that Moonie Bill Gertz?

[Catherine Vincent]

72. What about all the repigs that wrote books about 9/11 blaming Clinton?

Did you make it your business to wonder what percentage they gave to 9/11 survivors (if any)?

[Karenina]

74. Does that include your *fearless leader?

Let's look at the BIG PROFITEERS first. You know, the ones making MEGA-BUCKS off this "little misunderstanding" of WMDs that don't seem to be under the desk... No, not there. You know, the ones who had such access to info they mighta coulda decided to IGNORE some that didn't fit into their "portfolio???"

Some-of-your-fucking-business-percent is more about if your aging parents can get the medications they need and your kids are covered through you, if you can survive financially focusing on the welfare mother rather than corporate welfare (the disparity BOGGLES THE MIND) as the means of production are STRIPPED from your hands and awarded to the lowball outsourcing bid. Is your air clean? Your water and food supply safe? Your earth in balance? Mother Earth is NOT in "balance" as we have known her if you are paying any attention at all. "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

Rather then getting exercised about the proceeds from a book... (Hmmm... Where IS that link to the pictures of *crusader bunnypants as he hopped across the continent to be "out of harm's way. They were hawking that *shit like mad. Wonder how much *THEY made. WHERDY GO?")
perhaps you might read a time or two and carefully consider its content. Can we start there, boys and girls? I knew we could. ;-)

[Jim Sagle]

77. So which are you, Starsky or Hutch?

[lunarboy13]

82. 911?

First of all, Richard Clarke's book is not a book dealing with the 9/11 tragedy from the perspective of the victims and their families. It is a book that concentrates on the failures of the Bush administration before, during and after 9/11. Specifically, it deals with terrorism. Mr. Clarke is an expert in counter-terrorism. Who else should write such a book and why is it immoral for them to profit from said book? Again, he's not writing about 9/11 from some hallowed victim's perspective, but from his own experiences as an expert in counter-terrorism. He also forcefully argues that Iraq was--and continues to be--the distracting force in the Bush Admin that prevents us from waging a more effective war on terrorism.

If Clarke's book wakes some Americans up to the fact that this Admin is taking our Country in the wrong direction, perhaps we may be able to prevent the next attack(s), or at least lessen the destruction. And you should remember, when the President was jumping from non-disclosed location to non-disclosed location during the attacks, Richard Clarke remained in the White House--even with the plane from Pennsylvania inbound. He's also the only person who worked in the White House to formally and publicly apologize to the 9/11 victims families. It is not a question of money, but of honor. Richard Clarke has more honor than every single person in the White House combined.

[trumad]

3. 39 percent

and the rest is going to The Cockatiel rescue foundation...

[Kathy in Cambridge]

4. Trumad

:D

you are so droll

[trumad]

6. Nice Cat

:-)

[Kathy in Cambridge]

8. Thanks-those are my boys

Noah (the kitty porn picture) and Reno (the regal black kitty).

[zebrathirtythree]

14. Ha Ha HA

My sister that lost her husband in WTC 2 (yes she got 911 cash) does not think it is funny at all.

[trumad]

My entire family including my dog, cat and Cockatiel lost their lives

on the fucking Titanic. I didn't get shit except a T-Shirt saying drink up the ice cubes are on us! :mad:

[zebrathirtythree]

38. Oh yeah? My entire family excepy me died on a raft coming here.

I see NOTHING funny about it trumad.

[trumad]

41. Whaaa..my story is just as plausible as yours

[DrWeird]

42. Hey, my entire family died and I think it's hilarious.

They were all posing as family members of tragedy victims anonymously on message boards when their cockatiel flew into the circuit breaker and the house burned down.

Oh, and give my regards to your zombie sister. First she dies on a raft and then her husband is killed in WTC 2.

What bad luck

[zebrathirtythree]

60. My sister made it to America before we attempted to come over

She set up the program for us to ship out and myself and seven others survived. We are not as lucky as you who were born here to be accepted so easily. I resent the hate and lies I see posted against me here.

[Vickers]

62. Yes, we hate the hate and lies, too

:eyes:

[linazelle]

81. Tooo funny

[markses]

50. I don't believe you.

Why don't you PM me a name so I can check it out. Since it is an in-law, it won't reveal your own identity.

[Cocoa]

52. they have rafts from FreeRepublic?

is JimRob coming soon, or are they still working on a large size raft for him?

[DrWeird]

19. How does she feel about Bush cracking jokes about it?

nt

[alcuno]

26. Are you saying that your sister wants money from Clarke's book?

Wasn't the truth enough?

[zebrathirtythree]

36. No, the yet to be truth is not enough

We have an author making cash off 911 while many 911 families are suffering still. I don't have to approve of it. If you do then sleep well...

[alcuno]

49. OMG. An author is making money off of 9/11.

They're ALL making money off of 9/11: Guiliani, Kerik, Woolsey, Kay, etc. At least Clarke is being honest about it.

[linazelle]

5. Why is this important to you?

[rockymountaindem]

7. It's important because

it undercuts the "he's only doing it for money" argument.

[trumad]

11. When in doubt linazelle

use the DU search engine..Then it will be as clear as a crystal ball..;-)

[linazelle]

79. Gotcha n/t

;)

[zebrathirtythree]

16. Because I still love my sister that lost her husband in WTC 2 tower

She is concerned that the Clarke 911 book money be distributed among 911 families. I happen to agree with her and we are both long standing Democrats.

[trumad]

20. I'm a sitting Democrat

Always have been one..I think it's silly to stand all day.

[zebrathirtythree]

30. On your feet or on your knees!

We that are sitting through this tyranny need to rise up and speak our minds!

[trumad]

46. Nahh..I'm much more effective behind a keyboard

taking on those who come in and pretend to be what they are not... Now please don't take that as meaning you...I would never do that....

[FlemingsGhost]

39. No offense, but I take nobody's word--online.

Did I mention I have a 12" penis?

See what I mean?

[zebrathirtythree]

45. What does your 12" penis have to do with 911?

I don't get it.

[FlemingsGhost]

55. It's fiction.

Just because I write it on an online forum, doesn't mean it's true.

FYI: You will be held to the same standard.

Welcome to DU, zebra...

[trumad]

58. Well think about it.....

9 plus 11 equals 20.... 20 minus 8 = 12.... 8 stands for ate and Clarke ate Bush for lunch... shhhheeeeesss..you couldn't figure that out?

[DarkPhenyx]

76. Trumad? How long did it take you to figure that out?

You seriously have way too much time on your hands.

[trumad]

47. Jpeg please

DU has the bandwidth...

[FlemingsGhost]

9. The truth is priceless, a gift to the soul.

Why do you feel they should receive royalties?

If the families who are pushing for disclosure wanted money, they would have accepted the government pay-off offered to them.

[zebrathirtythree]

23. ANYONE that cashes in on 911 should give it to the victims

I should not even have to explain this simple fact.

[alcuno]

32. What about the Bush administration?

Haven't they been "cashing in" on 9/11?

What about Guiliani? Hasn't he been "cashing in" with his buddy Bernard Kerik? Is it only books you oppose or ALL war profiteering?

[zebrathirtythree]

48. Damn right

They should give the most!

[FlemingsGhost]

33. Anyone who helps uncover the truth, should be rewarded.

"cashes-in"?

Careful, your slip is showing...

[alcuno]

56. I agree that the truth should be rewarded. I bought 2 copies

of Clarke's book; one for me and one for my folks.

[trumad]

51. Clarke told the truth in a book

and he's the only son of a bitch in the GOV who has... Cash in my ass...

[salinen]

10. Frist has decided

to donate 100% of his book profits to himself. Why are you referring to this as tithing?

[zebrathirtythree]

21. Because I expect more respect of Democrats and their book sales

I expect NOTHING of rethugs and their prattle.

[DrWeird]

22. But Clarke is a republican.

nt

[zebrathirtythree]

53. Not according to his donations and admitted vote to Gore

If he gives to Democrats and voted for Gore then he is my kind of rethug.

[Stephanie]

12. How much did they get from "Bush at War"?

?

[troublemaker]

15. Who Cares?

Doesn't everyone realize that every single 9/11 family has far more money than Richard Clarke?

[eaprez]

17. It was a dumb question!!!

Not of you...of the news folks to ask him. He has no obligation - moral or otherwise to donate procedes of his book to 9/11 families. That question was designed for one purpose and one purpose only. To portray him as an opportunist who is chasing money in lieu of the truth. This is what happens when they can't challenge someone on facts they resort to this stuff.

[Dookus]

18. None, I hope

there are other causes that need money more.

[zebrathirtythree]

57. Name three

Two. One?

[Dookus]

70. Any group supporting the victims of tragedies

that have NOT already received millions of dollars.

How 'bout the USO?

[HEFFA]

71. Cancer research. I believe that a helluva lot more people died from it.

This certainly doesn't belittle the tragedy of 911, but you DID challenge the issue.

[mike1963]

24. More than he is required to.

:eyes:

[leftofthedial]

25. This is irrelevant to the truth of what he says

it may help determine whether you like him or not, but it has no logical bearing on the truth of what he says.

why do you use the word "tithe" ?

A tithe is traditionally one-tenth. Would that satisfy you?

"Tithe" strongly implies a payment to support a religion. Are 9-11 families a religion?

His book is not merely exploiting 9-11; it is an attempt to identify honestly what went wrong. Our political process is incapable of telling us the truth, os the 9-11 families should thank Clarke for speaking out.

So far, he has given far more to 9-11 families than any member of the bushgang--his heartfelt apology.


Welcome to DU. I am truly sorry for your sister's loss. I hope we can stop those responsible before they do it again and we can fix our system so that we can protect our citizens from this kind of outrage in the future.

[DrWeird]

27. Probably about the same amount as Mel Gibson.

Only Gibson didn't have anything new to say.

[zebrathirtythree]

40. Gibson wrote a book on 911?

Got a link to it?

[Vickers]

44. What do you have against Clarke?

Does the truth hurt?

As posted above, yer slip is showing, cowboy.

[spanone]

73. Clarke wrote a book that exposed bush*

because of that he may never work in his chosen career. We should donate money to him.

[SoCalDem]

28. Frankly, all he "owes" them is the truth..

Most of the 9/11 families have been paid plenty of cash.. I doubt seriously that ANY of them "needs" a money injection.. They want TRUTH.. He gave them all the facts that he had at his disposal..

This notion of "giving" part of one's book about any event, smacks of greed.. If a person who has had a horrendous crime committed against them, and they agree to help a writer write a book, that's different.They are entitled to a share then..

Clarke wrote about HIS story regarding the 9-11 incident.. He "owes" the families nothing more than that...and his testimony..

If he chooses to donate, that's HIS business.. He should not be pressured into donating...

Chris Matthews has made a lot of money off the 9-11 episode.. how much is HE donating?.. (His show was near cancellation, when it happened)..

Should newspapers be required to "donate" their proceeds post-9/11, since their income increased too..?

[Vickers]

29. That depends...how much did they help writing the book?

I think this guy better save his money.

[tishaLA]

54. "tithe"?

I hope he didn't "tithe" any of it; that makes it seem like a religious obligation. Maybe he'll give some of it to them.

Can you tell me about the amount of money Guiliani gave to them from his book? Has Karen Hughes told us what percentage she is giving? I'll be interested in your answers. Thanks.

[54anickel]

61. Uh, not to get technical, but tithe means one tenth. What is a 911

book and what is a 911 family?

[The Night Owl]

63. First you thought Clarke was after Kerry's VP slot...

First you thought Clarke wrote his book because he is after Kerry's VP slot...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1314659

Then you found out that Clarke stated, under oath, that he would not accept any position in a Kerry administration.

Now you are claiming that Clarke wrote his book simply to make money.

Where are you going to move the goalpost to next?

[Junkdrawer]

66. Well, that was fun while it lasted...

[trumad]

68. Stellaaaaaa!@!!!!!!!!! Stella!!!!!!!!!

[linazelle]

80. LOL

[Catherine Vincent]

78. LOL! I was right.

Tombstoner started a thread asking if Clarke was credible. I told him I hope he doesn't get tombstoned. :)

[LTR]

67. I guess you gave yourself away, Zeb

[DrWeird]

69. I can't believe anybody would do that.

Complain about somebody "exploiting" 9-11 and then make up a story about their family member being a 9-11 victim for the sake of argument.

Truly a well deserved tombstone.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

75. consider who you are dealing with.

....these rightys are, franlkly, a bunch of facists.