How widespread is the hate and mistrust felt by the Iraqis towards us

[bpyatt]

I have a friend who was a civilian contractor who got back from Iraq recently and he told me that there was growing mistrust of the Americans there felt by the citizens. Now I see that 5 American soldiers were killed and their charred bodies were dragged through the streets, ripped apart and hung. All my conservatives friends want to tell me overall the Iraqis are glad we are there. Can anyone point me to anything to refute that ascertation? I think it's bunk, and there is a growing mistrust setting in. I mean I'm sure most Iraqis were happy at first with Saddam going down, then they saw the realities of occupation, their life wasn't much better, and now their anger is turning towards us. Thoughts?

[Posinegativeman]

1. You have the stories confused

Civilians were dragged through the street. The military incident was unrelated.

Better question: What % of Iraqis hate us? 5? 10? 20%?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

2. if you can form the question you already know the answer it is worldwide

not just the Iraqi's but the world now hates us and it appears bush* has caused it to be justified

[keithyboy]

3. The Iraqis, the world, and even we are growing to hate ourselves!

I feel so aggrieved for what my country is doing in Iraq and what they are planning to do elsewhere. My heart is truly broken and even more hurt when I hear about our children being killed for an unjustified war.

[coltman]

4. Iraqi people

My father was stationed in Iraq during WWII,building a railroad to russia.I can't tell you how many times he warned me of these people in my youth.I would start by saying Dad never said bad about or cursed anyone but he was always able to find the most derogatory words for the Iraqi people.He would end all these enlightenments with the words never ever trust an Iraqi.I think history is proving him right on this one.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

5. it seems that some have taken a wrong turn back at the fork in the road

:wtf:

[coltman]

12. Not so..

I would just offer the opin that maybe saddem knew how to rule his people.After all alot of them seem to like him if you can manage to read between the lines of a very biased media.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

14. oh okay...my bad...sorry and i do agree with that assessment......

better the devil ya know than the devil ya don't know

[coltman]

16. Exactly...

gee dubya has sent good and honorable men to a snakepit that has killed 600.American's and their ideals bleed under elitist rule.

[bowens43]

10. Huh?

We launched an unprovoked attack against the people of Iraq. We occupied their nation. We shoot them when they protest. We shut down their papers when they speak out against the occupation. We shoot them if they choose not to stop at check points. We have littered their country with depleted uranium. We have murdered thousands of their citizens and children. We levied devastating sanctions against them for over a decade after decimating their infrastructure in the first gulf war and you expect them to like us?!?!?

Reminds me of the freeper site when they call the Iraqis 'ungrateful bastards' as if they have a reason to be grateful for what we have done to them.

[Mari333]

6. well my stepson in Baghdad emails me

and says that there are mobs growing every day larger and larger where he is, lobbing mortars at the facility he is in, and bombs being defused all the time on the road near him and that the people are mad as hell
why wouldnt they be? we dragged almost 13,000 people out of their homes in Baghdad in the middle of the night and threw them into prison with no charges and have them there for months at AbuGhraib.
They are pissed and guess who gets caught in the fire? the reservist and guard grunts on the ground. The soldiers want to come home.
thats what happens when you attack a country that has done nothing to you, and try and steal their resources and have idiots with no exit strategy and lie to the US public about flowers and happy Iraqis.
Oh, and loot the US treasury for it, and outsource our jobs for it, and destroy both countries to help your own wealthy friends.
http://www.bringthemhomenow.com
by the way its getting worse and looks like all the soldiers will be there a lot longer and they are already low morale..
http://www.indiemediamagazine.com/article.php?story=20040330233622946
I smell a DRAFT
www.bushdraft.com

[ElsewheresDaughter]

7. AMEN Mari333!...and don't hold back...i love you girl!

:bounce:

[Mari333]

9. Hi honey. Got coffee. Yesterday was my despair day

today I got some sleep so Ill see if I make it without going into despair. This is some roller coaster ride from hell when your kid is over there. Its one day really bad, the next day, you just suck up and function, the next day you are mad as hell and fight like hell, the next day you fall apart...weird.
Never had a kid in a war zone, thank god for a light xanax to function.
Im sick of this tho, and wish it on no one. What I do wish is that people would listen to me about the draft that will come if Bush gets in in 2004, and start preparing to get their kids safe.
Its hell to think of your kid over there, and all the bastards that put him there and your hands are tied because you arent a wealthy politician and you cant get him out (like Poppy Bush did)

[ElsewheresDaughter]

13. Mari...hang in there and you and yours are in my prayers....I have 3 that

will be drafted if....i fear i would never be able to cope with it if it were to happen ...2 daughters(1's a nurse) and a son would go ... :( you dear one are a strong women and i feel your pain daily...you are on my mind often....can i send your son anything? please PM me and my family will write and send packages :hug:

[Jacobin]

8. There are supposedly "polls" of Iraqis, but I would think they

would be quite suspect, since the pollsters are the occupiers and the Iraqis answering the polls might be justifiably afraid of retribution if they answered "wrong".

I would turn the question around this way. Let's say that China decided that Bush* is a rogue leader, possessed lots of weapons of mass destruction, was an aggressor nation, invaded other nations without provocation and had used WMD's before (Japan nukes). Let's say hypothetically that they were able to successfully invade the U.S. and then began to occupy the country.

I would think that we would view the Chinese occupiers as invading forces, that those who tried to sabotage the Chinese occupiers as heroes (not terrorists), that any Americans who were persuaded to help the Chinese occupiers would be considered traitors and fair game to be shot. In short, I think we would act just like the Iraqis are acting in attempting to repel the U.S. invaders.

This is not going well and will get worse. In fact, it looks like a huge disaster when you count the outrage and anger in the rest of the world which this invasion has provoked.

My 2 cents.

[Mari333]

11. Bremer tells us the polls! and Rummy! Nuff said!

liars. I do believe, and Im predicting, that as June 30 gets near, a lot of soldiers will die in horrific fighting and civilians will die.
Bush has created insurgents by attacking Iraq, created more terrorists who hate us and to the Iraqi people they are often called freedom fighters against the US and Israel
same donkey, different blanket, is what Iraqis call the US occupation. That means we are behaving like Saddam did.

[0007]

15. The proof is in the pudding

And the pudding is not a sweet dessert.

The dessert is made by containing blood and guts from stomach products, that has been boiled in hatred, steamed with lies and baked with the tax payers money.