We have * caught in a pincer move; if we have the guts to insist on a

[thebaghwan]

complete declassification of documents as Mr. Clarke has requested. Remember this was a Repuke idea advanced by Sen Frist to intimidate and harass Mr. Clarke. Clarke upped the ante this last weekend when he called for a complete disclosure of all six (6) hours of his sworn testimony from two (2) years ago along with all his emails and correspondence.

What better way to contrast Condi's public, sworn testimony that to have Clarke's testimony and documents available to the American public. Since it was the Repukes idea, we should be demanding it all be declassified. Me thinks they have painted themselves into a corner.

Who will join me in writing our senators and demanding a full declassification of all Clarke's documents and testimony??? This will keep the * campaign off balance for weeks if not months.

Here are some contact #s fdor Dem and Pepug senators and a link where you can find the contact info for your senator.

Robert C. Byrd: (D) http://byrd.senate.gov/byrd_email.html

Ted Kennedy: (D) [e-mail]

Bob Graham: (D) http://graham.senate.gov/email.html

Some Republicans: Particularly target Frist.

Bill Frist: (R) http://frist.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=AboutSenatorFrist.Contact...

Chuck Grassley: (R) http://grassley.senate.gov/webform.htm

Chuck Hagel: (R) http://hagel.senate.gov/Email/contact.html

Find other senators addresses: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


And don't forget your reps in Congress:

www.senate.gov

http://www.house.gov/writerep /

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. great idea

[ArkDem]

2. Die Grundlage der Lehre ist eine Erfahrungstheologie.

"Die Wirklichkeit kann man nur erfahren". Diese Wirklichkeit wird als Zustand der Gedankenlosigkeit, der absoluten Leere verstanden. Bhagwan nimmt hier den buddhistischen Nirvana-Gedanken auf. Nur wer es schaffe, ein völlig leeres Gefäß zu werden, dem werde die Glückseligkeit zuteil. Da dieser Zustand der Leere vom normalen Menschen nicht ohne weiteres zu erreichen sei, bot er sich als "Hebamme" an, den Suchenden zu dieser Erfahrung zu verhelfen. Dazu verlangte er völlige Unterordnung unter seinen Willen, strenge Kleidungsvorschriften (rote Kleidung und die Mala, eine Holzkette mit dem Bild des Meisters) und die Aufgabe des gesamten bisherigen Lebens. Totale Abhängigkeit war das Ziel seiner Lehre. "Wer bist Du, daß Du wissen könntest, was richtig oder falsch ist?"

[stopthegop]

3. can you say rope-a-dope?

be careful what you wish for...Rice will come across very well when she testifies...and you never know what's in a document before you read it...

[thebaghwan]

4. True, but at least there would be some comparison. I seriously doubt

that Rice will testify to the same level of specifics as did Clarke,

[stopthegop]

5. maybe...but it's risky...be interesting to watch it