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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:13 AM
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Gore should run. It is the patriotic thing for him to do.
Yes, he has his reasons for not getting in, but there is no question, this man deserves re-election.

That was the most seering, profound speech we have heard in years. He hit all the issues, he hit hard, and he spoke the unvarnished truth. Gore may be the only person who can actually right the plethora of wrongs that this mis-administration has inflicted on the country and the world.

I have supported the candidacy of John Edwards, and I also like Kerry alot. But Gore trumps both of them. He has the experience, the gravitas, and now, the personality that outflanks all the other actors on the stage.

Actually, I don't think Gore should run. Gore should be DRAFTED. That's what we owe him. And then he should run, win, and serve. That's what he owes the country.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:14 AM
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1. After today's speech,,, he is the only one
who can shift the whole process to another level.


You gotta do it AL!!!


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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:52 AM
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19. I agree
with all due respect the others running. Gore is an asset to us and perhaps not running will allow him to give cover to the eventual nominee. Still, he makes the rest look like they are sitting at the kiddy table.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:17 AM
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2. I don;t believe he is interested in a draft either.
I heard and watched the speech and he said he was going to support one of the fine candidates later on down the road. I agree he was dynamic today. Too bad there was a media blackout.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:17 AM
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3. the patriotic thing for him was to fight Bush harder in Florida
he blew it then. Sorry.
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devarsi Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:21 AM
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6. You should be sorry!
Because that post was completely unfounded in reality.

Would you have had Gore start a civil war?

He took it as far as he could. BTW -where were you when Florida went down?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:27 AM
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8. He didn't ask for a recount in every county
and there were other legal mistakes in the process. Sorry, but his heart wasn't in it 100%.
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devarsi Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:40 AM
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14. Easy for you to say
since you have that magic window into Gore's heart and soul.

Too bad the rest of us are mere and ordinary humans.....
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:51 AM
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18. But he did take it to the Florida Supreme Court....
But once the US Supreme Court stepped in, what more could he have done? I would like to know??? I'll wait for your response.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:55 AM
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20. yes he did ask for a state wide recount
the rules in florida are that both candidates must agree or the secretary of state or governor decides.....Harris, jeb bush.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:38 AM
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12. obviously you didn't pick up on the press
the MW's were totally behind the chimp and annoited him from the beginning.

and the SC would NEVER let him have ANY chance. Its time t take our country back!
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:20 AM
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4. I disagree
I think he will be much more effective supporting the nominee and continuing to give outstanding speeches like he did today.

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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:21 AM
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5. That's his goal: "To END the current administration"
his heart and mind are in the right place.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:22 AM
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7. Let it go
Gore isn't running.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:29 AM
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9. Yep
Today should put an end to the Draft Gore Movement. Gore made it as clear as possible that he's not running in 2004 in today's speech.

I voted for Gore, and I loved Gore today, but if anyone is trying to draft Gore after today then they're just fighting for a lost cause.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:34 AM
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10. Agree n/t
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nannygoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:36 AM
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11. Really excellent plea to Al to run...
James Higdon: 'Against all enemies, foreign and domestic...'
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=12476&mode=nested&order=0&thold=0

<snip>
I tend to think of this incident whenever someone mentions that the United States government should be run like a corporation, and by experienced corporate managers. I know I also thought of it in 2000 when Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris disenfranchised over 90,000 voters in order to steal the election for George W. Bush. While corporatism preaches that the idea is merely pragmatic, history teaches that the notion is encompassed by Benito Mussolini's definition of fascism. In fact, at one point in his political life, Mussolini said that the better name for fascism would be corporatism. It is a prospect completely counter-intuitive to American conservatism, but it is fully supported by American neo-conservatism. America did not defeat fascism in WWII, we merely beat it back - temporarily - and it is now rising again on Main Street, USA.

It is not that I would encourage conservatives to abandon their chosen party, and to become Democrats. I do encourage conservatives to attempt to take their party back. The Republican Party is not the only lost party, it is merely the first to fall. For those traditional Democrats, who wonder why their party has lost the ability to fight, understand that the Democratic Party is within a hare's breath of falling as well. It is not beyond saving, as it seems Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich are attempting to prove, but redemption requires casting off every ounce of apathy. As Burke once said, "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for some good men to do nothing."

<snip>

It is also incumbent that downed soldiers must rise to fight again. And here, if I may, I'd like to direct my comments directly to Al Gore.

The most insidious attack on democracy, in my lifetime, is what occurred in Florida in the year 2000. And yet it is that moment in time that finally turned apathy into action. At a time when America had become bored with American politics, that event ignited a new generation of activists. Such is logical, for it is said that one never appreciates what one has until it is lost. I have never seen a generation of activists more determined to right a wrong, and so unwilling to "get over it." They can only be encouraged if you, Sir, allow them to take that chance. It is only by taking your proper place in the White House that that wrong can truly be rectified.

<snip>
When explaining your decision not to run in 2004 you offered that a return to the arena would place an improper focus on what happened in Florida almost three years ago. I respectfully disagree. I cannot think of a more dynamic influence to raise the stakes on what will be the most vital election in this nation's history. There is simply nothing that could possibly influence public interest more. Those who work for your campaign will show more ferocity than you have ever known in your support. I ask that you let us
begin that work.

In 1993 and again in 1997 you gave this oath, "I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same..." While the oath regards the office, you will bear the title of "Mr. Vice President" until the day you die, until you renounce the title, or until you achieve a higher office. That oath follows you still. Please consider, once again, how best to be true to that oath. Is it as a leader, or as a
private citizen? A new generation of good activists ask that you lead them to do something.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:39 AM
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13. Gore is pretty close to Dean in the speech.
It will be interesting to see who he endorses for the primary.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:41 AM
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15. Gore is "close" to ALL the candidates. But head and shoulders
above them.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:50 AM
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17. On repealing the Bush tax cuts AND opposing the Iraq war
Gore is closer to Dean than Kerry, Edwards, and the other top tier candidates.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:47 AM
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16. I Agree!
DRAFTGORE.COM
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:56 AM
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21. I've begun to believe Florida was "Orchestrated." If Gore suspected or
knows that......he won't run. And, that may have made his decision.

One day what happened in Florida will be exposed the way it should. And, I think it will be revealed that it was "part of the plan" the Bush's had in the "take over" of America by the Corporatists and PNAC'ers.

After what we've seen in how fast they implimented their near fascist policies......we know they had a plan.

Florida was the first step. And they controlled the media by then, anyway........so it was easy to orchestrate Gore's problems when Bush's brother was the Governor and Katheryn Harris and Theresa LaPore were in position to carry out the "orders."

My Opinion......but I stick with it........
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:57 AM
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22. I agree. Gore should run.
:thumbsup:

It is his duty to step in and provide deflection from the Dark Path to Empire we're on.

If he does, I would advise him to fly commercial (though murdering him would be of such direct benefit to the Busheviks that they might not dare).
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 12:00 PM
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23. I don't think they would hesitate to take down a commercial flight
Okay, I don't really think that, but if it happened I would not be shocked.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 12:34 PM
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24. They will stop at nothing. That's why we need Gore.
We have to win by a larger margin than they can steal.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 01:11 PM
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25. Did Gore say the “I will not join” comment in the actual speech?
The As Prepared speech has that, and I'm wondering if he really said that.
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