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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:36 PM
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New Title -- Nightline hitting HARD!
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 10:44 PM by Atman
Is there ANYONE who will call it honestly? So far, from the intro, it looks like Ted is actually be a bit tougher thant the other love fests. Stay tuned!
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:39 PM
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1. doesnt look like it//...
ted koppel comes out swinging...
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:39 PM
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2. tell us tell us....won't see it for 3 hours on west coast...
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:42 PM
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5. Chris Bury...
the changing reasons for war with Iraq...going back to Feb. 2001...

It's a must see...

Koppel says that it is very unlikely that he'll do another...

Scripted...ignored some reporters...they are hitting him hard...
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 03:38 AM
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32. "Scripted...ignored some reporters...they are hitting him hard..."
yep, it sure was..

he didn't come out and say the word "script", but he did say something about "MUST CALLS" when pointing to a reporter

he had a freaking list on the podium of reporters that he MUST CALL on...

meanwhile - did you notice Condi and Rove -- neither of them looked happy with the way things were going

and Rove with his arms crossed -- body language says defensive positioning
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:40 PM
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3. talking about Iraq
And how the rationale has changed
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:41 PM
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4. Ted is chronicaling *'s changing stories!
This is pretty good!
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:43 PM
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6. Change your title to Nightline hitting HARD!!
so people will tune in!!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:46 PM
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9. Finally, huh?!
But now...the three "seasoned journalists" offer their review. Tweety had three ass kissers, plus Doris and Pat...who also did their fair of smooching. I hope these guys don't start saying it was strong and forceful, or I'll PUKE and waste all my good pho!
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:50 PM
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13. Vechicle into which to pour the message...
basically ignores the QUESTIONs...
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:43 PM
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7. sweet I'm looking foward to this tonight
I'm out here on the west coast...I'll catch it!
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:44 PM
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8. Kick.
I sense another drip falling.

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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:48 PM
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10. Analyzing the press conference...
kick...
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:48 PM
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11. David Gergen
On Charlie Rose is killing him.

"Impervious to alternative points of view."

"Leaves people with a queasy feeling."
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:56 PM
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19. "leaves people with a quesy feeling"
yikes, sounds serious!
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:08 PM
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26. Gergen was cool on cnbc/Siegenthaler the other night.
Man, he was mad at the bushies!

Like, 'they're the ones who got us into this mess, and they darn sure better come up with a way to get us out'. Frowning. And 'darn' from him is like Goddam from most.

Never found a transcript, tho.

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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:49 PM
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12. Boston Globe Reporter:" ......Questions he didn't answer"
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 10:51 PM by Cush
He evaded every question that had to do with taking responsibility

Ted: He seemed caught off guard several times....
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:51 PM
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14. Didnt have a good clear answer...
n/t
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:53 PM
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15. Wow
They're telling the truth. Thank God.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:55 PM
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16. Truth!
I don't know if I should cry or bang my head against the wall. Tonight has been one of the most frustrating nights (for me) of the idiots residency.
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SteveG Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:56 PM
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17. Ellen Goodman -
is being brutaly truthful. The others are agreeing.... This did not play well with the punditocracy....
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 10:56 PM
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18. Whoa, this is close to journalism.
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 10:57 PM by TacticalPeak
Saying his staff should have anticipated all q's asked tonight, but aWol seemed caught off guard?! Several times?!

Noted the 'Mistakes? Gimme a week or two." (a la Eisenhower/Nixon)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:01 PM
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20. That's it, I am staying UP.
West Coastie here.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:04 PM
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21. It was excellent through and through...
honest, no spin zone...even mentioned Iraqi casualties, and how thats turning the arab world MORE against us...
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:05 PM
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24. Charlie Rose is a good follow up
Nightline and CR...the only two reports I've seen tonight that weren't love fests for *
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:05 PM
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23. Stay up-it IS worth watching.
You won't be disappointed.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:05 PM
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22. Funny
I got off on this one;

"Wash. Post reporter: Mr. President, why are you appearing before the 9/11 Commission with Vice President Cheney?

Bush: Fuck you. Next question...

WP (persisting): Mr. President, I meant why are you appearing before the 9/11 Commission together, as opposed to separately, as the Commission requested?

Bush (glaring): Seriously, dude -- fuck you. Weren't you listening the first time? Next question..."

Great!!

My perception was, "Why are you and VP Cheney testifying together,"

junior: Cuz we have things to say to the commissioners.

WP (persisting) : Why does it take two of 'ya?

junior: Cuz they want to hear what we have to say!
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:08 PM
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25. Well it's about time!


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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:08 PM
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27. missed it
darn! I could have used it after tonight. Now it's just re-runs of the press conference on cable.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:09 PM
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28. Wow! Ellen Goodman! How often is SHE on?
Honestly, I've been reading Ellen Goodman for YEARS, but I've NEVER seen her on TV doing the pundit thing!

Seems to me that ABC has really turned. They've hired Richard Clarke as a consultant -- by current whore standards, that's a pretty radical move, imho. Methinks they are dipping a toe in the water of actual journalism -- can it be?

sw
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 11:14 PM
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29. Finally the press are too embarassed to lie to each other anymore.
Edited on Tue Apr-13-04 11:16 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
They can't sell this poorly budgeted and poorly cast presidency anymore. It just doesn't...work...anymore.

They've seen the approval ratings plummet, public wilting over visible carnage in Iraq and confessions of incompetence in the 9/11 hearings.

The suspension of disbelief in the neocon's public theatrics doesn't hold for the press corps who just want a good story to sell. They don't really care who gets killed in the story as long as it is marketable.

PICTURE THE PRESS CORPS TURNING TO EACH OTHER AND SAYING:
"THIS MOVIE SUCKS, DOESN'T IT? I'M GONNA PAN IT."
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:11 AM
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30. Another DU thread on this topic
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:54 AM
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31. Key comments on Nightline...
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 02:54 AM by krkaufman
Ellen Goodman, one of the Nightline panelists, said she didn't really view it as a press conference, based on past standards, and that the questions largely went unanswered.

Koppel commented on how David Gregory (NBC) followed-up on a question posed by Terry Moran (ABC). Panelist Bob Deans (Cox newspapers) related that he spoke with David Gregory before the press conference, when Gregory stated "I hope we do follow up on each other's questions tonight."

(I was *hoping* just last night that this would finally happen, but wouldn't you think that this method of following up on other reporters' questions would be the norm, rather than the exception?)

Holy crap!! Bob Deans just commented on the fact that there was no mention of Iraqi civilian casualties in tonight's press conference, and that the civilian casualties in the last week number in the 100s and are increasing anti-American sentiment within Iraq and across the Middle East.



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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 06:55 AM
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33. amazing...
somehow the fear factor seems to be dissipating...

Let's see how this plays out. If they have decided that Bush is now fair game, that they can treat him how any president should be treated, then he really is toast.
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