Hold me...I've discovered Kenneth Copeland...I'm scared!

[Khephra]

Is he a Christian Reconstructionalist? I swear the whole show was him speaking in code about overthrowing the gov't because it is a tool of Satan.

http://www.kcm.org/

[Trek234]

1. Isn't this guy affiliated with TBN?

The radical christians have turned against bush.... but only because he is not extremist enough. A year ago they were supporting the feds until bush wasn't kind enough to israel or didn't bring armaggedon fast enough.

[lazarus]

2. Where ya been, Kef?

Oh, right, up north. He's well known down south.

You've seen the van Impe's, right?

[Khephra]

3. I had seen Copeland before, but I'd never sat down and listened

--really listened--to what he was actually saying. Am I right? Is he in the Dominion Theology group?

[geomon]

4. The Van Impe's are a hoot...

VERY entertaining!

[Khephra]

6. Van Impe's name is familiar to me

But I can't place his face.

[geomon]

10. He has a wife and co-host named

Rexella. And they have a pitchman who sells their videos ..

I watched a show about two months ago and they were going on about how great it was that Bush watched their video about the end of the world/second coming.

The show is basically Jack Van Impe rattling off scripture at a pace that blows your socks off and then Rexella reads various newspapers while Jack responds with a barrage of pertinent scripture...

It is truly amazing to watch....

They are quite excited to living in the end times!

[Ripley]

14. I think Rexella is creepier than him.

That has to be a wig on her head, too much make-up, and she always has that sing-songy happy little-girl voice despite talking about things like war and climatological disasters.

Do you think he really memorizes that crap, or is he using a teleprompter?

It's all gobbledygoop to me, but it is entertaining. Until now that I know Bush is watching their videos!!

:scared:

[geomon]

16. It may be some medication that she takes

"and she always has that sing-songy happy little-girl voice despite talking about things like war and climatological disasters."

very scary!

[SpiralHawk]

20. "Nobody ever went broke...

underestimating the American public." - Whoever

[Pab Sungenis]

25. No one ever went broke....

The quote is from H.L. Mencken.

[Parche]

5. worst

He is one of the worst on TV
Him and his wife make me want to puke
He always says anointing
He is awful and pure evil

[FarLeftRage]

7. Khephra, don't listen to this "man"...

I had a cousin out in california, who would send me audio tapes of him back in 1981. Said he had the gift of "speaking in tongues"... Copeland speaks in the tongues of satan and other demons. Really strange stuff too and probably could make marilyn manson blush! You do your best, just to stay away from him...

[Khephra]

19. Ah, you see...

I'm the VP of the local Americans United. It's part of my duty to monitor people like Copeland. Believe me, it's not because I enjoy it.

[FarLeftRage]

22. Well then...

carry on. You do good work, my friend.

[Lars39]

8. Gack! Here's a link:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1506ch6.html

:scared:

[demgrrrll]

17. Buber: Since the primary motive of evil is disguise one of the places evil

people are most likely to be found is in the church. Strong statement.
I agree with Scott Peck that evil exists, but it is rare. I have only met 2 people in my life that would I would call evil and again I think that Peck is right in using revulsion as a barometer. I don't know that much about Buber other than he was a prolific writer and theologian. The quote is from Good and Evil.

[SammyWinstonJack]

9. Personally I like (lol) John C Hagee

He spouts off about how material wealth is a bad thing and that you should surrender your wealth to the Church! In the meantime, last year he had a reported income of $1.4 million! He lives in the Dominion, an upscale gated community filled with Doctors, Lawyers, Country Artists and Celebrity Sports Super Heros! Oh the Hypocrisy of the rich, righteous and infamous!

[geomon]

12. Is this the dude that has

The huge mural behind him on his stage?? The one with the history of christ and th efinal battle with the devil on it.

[SpiralHawk]

21. I always suspected that Chris Farley was riffing on Hagee

when he would do his "inspirational speaker" bits on Saturday Night Live. An uncanny resemblance in tone (and absurdity).

[SammyWinstonJack]

23. Hagee is a scum bag worst than Jim and Tammy Faye Baker

well maybe not, but on the same scale! These people better hope there really isn't a God! My bet is, that "God" wouldn't appreciate them ripping of decent unspecting people in his name! My only hope for people like them, is that there really is a God! They deserve their just dues!

[greekspeak]

11. Copeland and his ilk would be funny

Except that people listen to this crap. When people in high places listen to it, we get school vouchers, faith based funding, DOMA, et. al. There are so many of these nut jobs that they are difficult to count. Wanna read a funny one? Try some Hal Lindsay and his "late great planet earth." He reads apocalyptic literature and derives battle maps for the end of the world, using modern countries. He also is some sort of Reagan sycophant. Read Lindsay some time and you will see how scary Ronald Reagan's foreign policy actually was.

[BlueJazz]

13. A few years ago, some columnist

named Copeland the dubious honor of being "Lord of the Nuts"
I see not much has changed.

[Sapphocrat]

15. He's of the...

...Benny Hinn school of evangelists who have SEEN (I mean, SEEN) God, and can describe Him physically... and, let's see, what else? Oh, yes, he and Hinn and their ilk ascribe to the idea that they are "little Gods." Not in the way, say, a Brahman (Hindi) would recognize him/herself as part of the collective "God," but really, as GOD.

I think his exact words were, "You don't have a god IN you -- you ARE one." And then there was something about how, when he reads the part of the Bible where Jesus says "I AM," Copeland just smiles and says "I AM, too." Talk about a messiah complex.

What should really drive Christians insane is when he says stuff like "Jesus is no longer the only begotten son of God" and that Adam was equal (or at least not subordinate) to God. Oh, and that God doesn't have any "legal right" to the earth -- He's not allowed here, unless, of course, we invite Him in. (Kinda reminds me of Lost Boys, and how you can keep vampires at bay just by not inviting them into your home.) Gee, and I thought God was supposed to be everywhere.

Oh, Copeland also said, after September 11th, that "one billion Muslims will be 'saved'" within the next few months. (I guess those are the ones we don't kill, huh? Convert 'em or kill 'em, just like Annthrax Annie says.)

You think you know about creationism? Not 'til you've heard Copeland, who says faith is not intangible, but the actual, physical, raw material that created the universe... and nothing that exists (like, a chair, a rock, your cat) could exist without faith. (Sounds more like solipsism to me!)

Yeah, he's a Reconstructionist -- he'll be swept up into heaven (which, incidentally, is a carbon copy of "Mother Planet Earth") while all the unconverted Jews die in horrible ways, and the rest of us beg God for forgiveness... but God will ignore us, and leave us here for 1,000 years to be governed by Satan. (I'm not sure what happens after that -- we probably go to hell.)

That's just off the top of my head. He's sure entertaining, that guy -- but honestly, not half as offensive as Benny Hinn.

[karlschneider]

18. Hmmmmm...."thou are God..."??? I grok it.

:D

[ElsewheresDaughter]

24. oh you poor baby.....kenneth is a fundie aTBNer from way way back

he has his own ministry now and tv show on broadcast station...you should be :scared: