Newsweek on Dean:

[AlinPA]

Another attempt at trashing Dean and Democrats. The "Candidates on the Edge" crap showing Dukakis, Goldwater and McGovern was pure garbage. Maybe I should say at least he is getting attention? If this is any indication, we have both broadcast media and print media to fight. Karl Rove controls it all. Dirty bastards. We can win, though - Bush is looking more like a liar, more boring, and more stupid every day.

[poskonig]

1. I wouldn't say Rove controls it.

Most of the anti-Dean bullshit is coming from the Democratic establishment.

[Cha]

4. Really! I haven't read my Newsweek yet cause I've heard it's

a hatchet job. And Jonathon Alter has always written well for the Dems.

[AlinPA]

18. All Rove has to do is send out the message to media.

That they won't get to ride on the big airplane any more or have their questions answered, thus ruining their careers as "journalists".

[Loonman]

2. Holy Joe (LIEberman) and the DLC

Holy Joe has been trashing the other Dems, too.

[JohnKleeb]

3. Yet in the article they acknowledge Dean is moderate

BTW in either the time or newsweek magazine they did a comparsion between Dean and Shrub, seems they have a lot in common really.

[AlinPA]

5. Except politically and intellectually, of course.

The piece on his interview was OK. They didn't trash his wife.

[Rose Siding]

7. I saw that comparison

Something about how they both "figured out" a way to avoid Vietnam.

I'd be interested to know how Dean "figured out" how to get a partially unfused vertebra. Because that would be a different talent than jumping to the head of the line with minimal scores to join the TNG, skip drug tests and play hooky for the last year.

[Demobrat]

16. Dean didn't figure out jack.

He took a physical and that was that. I don't think we have to worry so much about media lies about Dean. He's not afraid to set them straight.

[tkmorris]

8. Dean and Bush

I have been seeing these claims of similarities between the two pretty frequently lately and it needs to be addressed.

They aren't alike. It is true that Dean is much more conservative on some issues than he is often portrayed but that doesn't make him anything at all like Bush. Dean is only similar to hat Bush claims to be, not what he is.

For example, Bush claims to be a fiscal conservative, with an emphasis on policies that ensure a good education for all children (no child left behind, right?), a focus on familes, quality health care for all citizens, yadda yadda yadda. Doe she actually DO any of that stuff? No, in actuality his policies do exactly the opposite. Dean however appears to actually MEAN all that stuff. Sorry, my tone sounds wrong here. I know that you know all this already.

I'm no Deanite, not yet anyway. I'm not sure that his image is very sellable to the Great Unwashed. I'm playing wait and see.

[AlinPA]

13. Dean made it through med school;

Bush is a damn moron. Dean can speak in complete sentences; Bush can't. Dean does his own thinking; Rove does the thinking for the dirty bastard.

[deutsey]

6. "Ganging Up on Dean"

http://www.progressive.org/sept03/rc0903.html

Democratic Presidential hopeful Howard Dean is getting the treatment. The acerbic physician and former governor of Vermont has raised more money and gained more popularity than expected. As a result, the pundits who examine political candidates' viability have turned their gaze on him. In June, Tim Russert and a clique of Washington pundits and reporters who follow Russert's lead pronounced Dean unfit. According to a flurry of news stories and columns, Dean's appearance on Meet the Press with Russert on June 22 was an embarrassment for the candidate and a disaster for his campaign.


People who saw the show or read the transcript might well ask: What was the big deal?


The New York Times and The Washington Post pulled out the following "embarrassing" details: Russert quizzed Dean on the exact number of U.S. military personnel on active duty. Dean said there were between one and two million. The correct number is, in fact, right in the middle-1.4 million. Russert asked Dean how many troops are currently stationed in Iraq (a constantly fluctuating number). Dean said it was "in the neighborhood of 135,000 troops." The number is really 146,000, the Times pointed out.


How would President Bush do on a similar pop quiz? My guess is our current commander in chief couldn't answer those questions. But Russert made a big deal of Dean's failure to produce the precise figures from memory.


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[jpgray]

9. What he/she said (nt)

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[Loonman]

11. LOL, I remember when shrub couldn't answer those questions

Boston Globe reporter: Can you name the president of Pakistan?

Shrubya:(really snotty voice)No, can you?


But jerk-off Russert is the most un-objective shapeless blob on Sunday morning TV. Since they cancelled Barbapapa that is, but I doubt he'd support Boosh, either.

[DemBones DemBones]

12. Dean's getting a lot of media attention, even if some is negative.

The bit about the Russert interview (Dean's estimate of 135,000 troops vs. 146,000 being correct) is really stupid. With troop numbers fluctuating, I can easily believe that Dean had been paying attention to the numbers and that 135,000 was a correct answer at some point not too distant from the Russert interview. This was used as an excuse to bash Dean unfairly.

As a Kucinich supporter, it bothers me to see how Dean is publicized by the media, while Kucinich is marginalized. I see the media as being rather pro-Dean and wonder why.

[deutsey]

15. I agree with you 100% about coverage

It's pathetic how the media don't give equal time to ALL viable candidates (and Kucinich qualifies as viable to me), especially in the beginning. Something needs to change so that our media (which are supposed to be serving the public interest) help to educate the public about the candidates.

Same goes for the debates. I voted for Gore, but I think Nader should have had an opportunity to participate in the debates.

:hi:

[Demobrat]

17. Dean's getting the attention because of the fundraising.

Money talks.

[Pastiche423]

20. Americans

are talking w/their money. Lots of people + small donations = lots of money.

[patrice]

10. Dean/Kucinich - eom

[DemBones DemBones]

14. Kucinich/ Dean -eom

[Friar]

19. Bush was a boring, stupid liar from day one

and it didn't seem to mean a thing to the sheeple.

No matter who we run the media will trash him. We can only hope that this time the electorate will resist being assimilated.

[Kahuna]

21. Jonathan Alter the author of the piece is hardly taking orders from Rove..

Jonathan Alter has always been painfully honest and has a lot of insight. Alter is also one of our rare mainstream liberal journalists. I haven't read the piece yet. I will read it because I respect Alter as a journalist.

[loyalsister]

22. I didn't see it as a hatchet job at all

I thought it was a fair article. The fact that negative things about Dean are mentioned just acknowledges reality the way I keeping wishing journalists would regarding this president, administration, and war.
The similarities b\w Bush and Dean are just in their histories. old money, Yale, etc. I don't think the article implied that it went beyond that.
These articles were sort of preemptive. "He tried pot." It's out. This stuff from his history has been layed out, now people can forget about it, move on, and listen to what he has to say.