Can anyone "prove" that PNAC is real?

[geomon]

I have been over the PNAC website and I get a funny feeling that it is a hoax. It almost seems to twisted to be real.

I am a skeptic so I would need some good "proof"...such as refferences in magazines or other non web sources...

What I really want is something showing the principle players in the PNAC discussing the PNAC. That would convince me.

Thanks.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

1. Go to PBS and FRONTLINE

There are PNAC documents listed and the org was well covered by PBS prior to war. There was a memo on 98 signed by PNAC's leadership to Clinton that precipitated his bombing campaign.

I don't have time to find the links but yes PNAC IS A REAL LOBBYING organization that was borne out of a 70's lobbying org called JINSA. There is a very credible writer who has written for the Washington Post and TAP named Jason Vest...google JASON VEST and JINSA.

[ScreamingMeemie]

26. Dick Cheney was interviewed on Frontline I believe, and he discussed

it quite openly. I think you can find the interview on their site. He was also interviewed on 20/20.

[htuttle]

2. Golly, I felt the same way when I went to www.whitehouse.gov

PNAC been covered in the mainstream press, names have been named. Do you think that if it was a hoax that Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz wouldn't have come out and denied it's existence?

It's real. Honest.

[geomon]

7. Have these members of PNAC been interviewed?

I would like to see them discuss this organization.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

14. My post YES Bill Kristol was interviewed

[geomon]

17. What I was looking for!!

do you have a link??

[Stephanie]

18. link

http://freshair.npr.org/day_fa.jhtml?display=day&todayDate=04/01/2003

[htuttle]

16. Here's some video links

Both from CSPAN:

Interviews with Gary Schmitt, Executive Director of PNAC, about PNAC
http://cspanrm.fplive.net:554/ramgen/cspan/hdrive/iraq_wj041803_schmitt.rm
http://cspanrm.fplive.net:554/ramgen/cspan/hdrive/iraq_wj041803.rm

[Stephanie]

3. It's real

Do some reading:

PNAC Links Archive

[librechik]

4. Try this Nightline

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/DailyNews/pnac_030310.html

[Stephanie]

5. Name Names

[DuctapeFatwa]

6. Write to Rove, Rumsfeld, etc, ask them

They don't deny it, it's not a conspiracy, it's a public statement of policy, that is currently being implemented.

[SoCalDem]

8. We don't "need" to prove it..They brag about it

:eyes:

[librechik]

9. also BBC news

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/3032147.stm

[librechik]

12. or perhaps Pat Buchanan's Amerucan Conservative magazine

http://www.amconmag.com/02_24_03/print/coverprint.html

[Cheswick2.0]

10. G-man, is your google broken?

there are plenty of sources from News papers and magazines., you can find them on google or any other decent search engine.

[geomon]

13. I have found tons of articles but

no interviews with the people in PNAC about PNAC..
Thats what I am looking for..their lack of deniel is no proof that it is not a hoax....

I just don't want it to be true I guess.....

[Classical_Liberal]

21. In other words your a denier, rather than a sceptic

anyway it was on ABC, http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/DailyNews/pnac_030310.html

[T Roosevelt]

11. Also this link

trumad has put together a page with lots of info on PNAC

http://www.pnacrevealed.com

[Stephanie]

15. Here you go - allow William Kristol to explain it to you himself

Radio show, Terri Gross interview:

http://freshair.npr.org/day_fa.jhtml?display=day&todayDate=04/01/2003

Listen to Joseph Cirincione


He specializes in defense and proliferation issues at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. He is senior associate and director of the Non-Proliferation Project. He will discuss the evolution of the Bush administration's policy toward Iraq. Its origins begin with a small group of influential officials and experts in Washington, D.C., who were calling for regime change in Iraq long before Sept. 11, 2001.
Read more about Joseph Cirincione


Listen to William Kristol

He is editor of the conservative magazine, The Weekly Standard. He also chairs the neo-conservative think tank, Project for the New American Century. He is one of the architects of the blueprint for regime change found in the document "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces and Resources for a New Century."

[StandWatie]

19. ABC good enough?

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/DailyNews/pnac_030310.html

[Classical_Liberal]

20. Nightline's report on the PNAC

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/DailyNews/pnac_030310.html

[Stephanie]

22. Please report back to us after you have listened to the interviews

viewed the videos, and read the articles. Curious what your take will be then.

[robbedvoter]

23. Heard a PNAC-er on WNYC - must've been their PR guy

Sounded so nice, one wanted to be his friend. Talked only about multilateralism, cooperation - and none of that American domination. But then they also had a faux civil rights writer that always agreed with the PNAC-er - so the illusion was complete. Why go to so much trouble to pretty paint a hoax?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

24. PNAC is real honey...here is another of its minnons

this "center for cutural conservatism" think tank is really scary too...check out some of the letters from the founder Paul Weyrich...:puke:
http://www.freecongress.org/

[janx]

25. Weyrich is the godfather of the whole Fundie movement.

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