In '97 Cheney/Rummy suggested U.S. needed a catastrophic new Pearl Harbor

[ElementaryPenguin]

- like "event" - in order to steer the American public into the "right" (as in wing) type of prioritizing as far as spending. Excellent little connecting-the-dots article here, published in the Deep South!!

http://www.lowcountrynow.com/stories/080103/LOCrose.shtml

:puke:

[ameriphile]

1. Scary, huh?

Also, Nightline did a story about PNAC back in March:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/DailyNews/pnac_030310.html

This would be a fringe conspiracy theory if it weren't so well-documented.

[ElementaryPenguin]

2. It certainly isn't "fringe" anymore, is it?!

Circulate!!

[westerby]

3. Conspiracy theory...

is everything that contradicts the "official version" and has nothing to do with the quality of arguments or documentation. At least that is what mass media thinks (concerning to my impression).

It would probably be correct to call the explanation, offered by the Administration and the media, of what happened on 9/11, a conspiracy theory. But, the media calls everything that contradicts this explantion model "conspiracy".

[ElementaryPenguin]

6. Bingo! BushCo/Media's explanation IS a conspiracy theory...

With far more holes, and far less plausibility!!

[Stephanie]

4. Connect The Dots, America!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1004773,00.html
Don't blame September 11 on spy failures, says report
Gary Younge in New York
Thursday July 24, 2003
The Guardian

Nothing could have been done to stop the terrorist attacks on September 11 even though an FBI informant had contact with two of the suicide hijackers a year before they were carried out, according to a congressional report into intelligence lapses preceding the destruction of the twin towers, to be published today.

But despite objections from some senators a crucial 28 pages of the 900-page report, which criticises Saudi Arabia for its lack of interest in clamping down on Islamist extremists, has been removed from the final document.

Saudi Arabia was home to 15 of the 19 hijackers yet remains a close and important ally of America in the region. The omission of criticism of Saudi Arabia was condemned by the Democratic senator and presidential hopeful, Bob Graham, a former chairman of the joint house and Senate intelligence committee.

"I start from the premise that in a democracy, the people should know as much as the government knows unless there is a very compelling case that the information threatens American security interests," he said. <more>


http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,999737,00.html
The spies who pushed for war
Julian Borger reports on the shadow rightwing intelligence network set up in Washington to second-guess the CIA and deliver a justification for toppling Saddam Hussein by force
Thursday July 17, 2003
The Guardian

As the CIA director, George Tenet, arrived at the Senate yesterday to give secret testimony on the Niger uranium affair, it was becoming increasingly clear in Washington that the scandal was only a small, well-documented symptom of a complete breakdown in US intelligence that helped steer America into war.

It represents the Bush administration's second catastrophic intelligence failure. But the CIA and FBI's inability to prevent the September 11 attacks was largely due to internal institutional weaknesses.

This time the implications are far more damaging for the White House, which stands accused of politicising and contaminating its own source of intelligence.

According to former Bush officials, all defence and intelligence sources, senior administration figures created a shadow agency of Pentagon analysts staffed mainly by ideological amateurs to compete with the CIA and its military counterpart, the Defence Intelligence Agency. <more>


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,92372,00.html
Cheney Energy Task Force Documents Detail Iraqi Oil Industry
Friday, July 18, 2003

WASHINGTON — Vice President Dick Cheney's energy task force appeared to have some interest in early 2001 in Iraq's oil industry, including which foreign companies were pursuing business there, according to documents released Friday by a private watchdog group.

Judicial Watch (search), a conservative legal group, obtained a batch of task force-related Commerce Department papers that included a detailed map of Iraq's oil fields, terminals and pipelines as well as a list entitled "Foreign Suitors of Iraqi Oilfield Contracts."

The papers also included a detailed map of oil fields and pipelines in Saudi Arabia and in the United Arab Emirates and a list of oil and gas development projects in those two countries.

The papers were dated early March 2001, about two months before the Cheney energy task force completed and announced its report on the administration's energy needs and future energy agenda.<more>

[ElementaryPenguin]

7. Thanks, Stephanie!! How much more friggin' obvious could it get??

eom

[westerby]

8. Energy Task Force Documents redacted

Why does nobody wonder or complain that the propensity of the Bushies to make everything "national security" and thus secret even reaches energy policy?
Large parts of the documents are blackened out. National security???

[ElementaryPenguin]

10. Probably has Cheney's May 2001 detailed attack plans for Iraq!!

Possibly trying to portray it as a "retaliation" for an attack that hasn't occured yet!! Wouldn't that be just a tad hard to explain!!

[Cha]

5. I read that a while ago! And some wonder why I think they

LIHOP!:grr:

[cmf]

9. Stumbled on the PNAC website

a while back. I was totally amazed by it - really sick stuff. It sucks that the only people with enough cajones to connect the dots are foreign newspapers and small circulation papers like this one. The administration let 9/11 happen. I just hope most people come to this realization before it's too late.

[ElementaryPenguin]

11. BushCo showed what they're capable of with the Iraq war scam!!!

Now many more people are on to the fact that these monsters are capable of ANYTHING - if they're willing to start fucking wars - wars based on complete lies!!

[Zero Gravitas]

12. Gross incompetence

What hapopened is still explainable by gross incompetence fueled by arrogance. LIHTI.

Let It Happen Through Incompetence.

IMPEACH BUSH

[ElementaryPenguin]

13. Would you call the Iraq War - lying about the evidence - incompetence??

If 9-11 WAS incompetence, it was so egregious as to be criminal!!

[Zero Gravitas]

15. Agreed

total criminal incompetence, Former Gov. Bush should be impeached & removed from office along with von Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Ashcroft & Cheney.

The Invasion of Iraq (and the lies told to justify it) have very little to do with 9/11. The only connection I can see is that 9/11 allowed Rumsfeld & Wolfowitz to convince occupant of the oval office (who is famously incurious) that occupying a Middle Eastern country was actually a good idea.

[aquart]

14. Well, isn't that an amazing coincidence.

Kind of like futures betting.

Except, it wasn't like Pearl Harbor. Pearl brought us into World War II with defined enemies and clear goals.

Pearl happened on a Sunday. Monday morning found enlistment centers clogged with young men, begging to enlist and fight. My mother remembers the lines of young men at the subway entrances, patiently waiting to buy their tokens and go downtown to enlist.

NOTHING like that happened after 9/11. Instead of joining the army, people found their way to Ground Zero, to help. For all the Bush rhetoric, violent revenge wasn't the first impulse of this nation, only its leaders.

And they, it turned out, didn't care who had done the deed. They only cared about pinning it on the nations they wanted to occupy and destroy.

[ElementaryPenguin]

16. I wonder if Poindexter was involved with the selling short of the airlines

The terror market board was truly Twilight Zone material!! These Reich Wingers are truly insane!! :puke:

[chadm]

17. That's a very good point

I don't remember anyone calling for a more violence after 9/11. In fact, that was the last thing the majority of people wanted.

[ProfessorGAC]

19. I'll Admit What I Thought

The first thing i thought when i heard the second tower was hit, was "This is an attack."

When the 2 towers collapsed, though, my first thought was "Somebody's Ass Is Kicked."

Now i meant that in two ways. I knew some country, somewhere, was going to be the target of revenge. Especially when Qadaffhi was the first ME leader to express sympathy and make it clear he had nothing to do with it. The other way i meant, was that someone in the gov't was going to get an ass whoopin' because we had to have screwed up a lot.

Now, i personally wasn't forthing for revenge. But, i do admit that i expected that the U.S. response would be swift, angry, and destructive.
The Professor

[ElementaryPenguin]

20. No one except ChimpCo!!! Bastards!!

I really starting suspecting them when that was their response. In fact, I suspected something rotten somehow connected to the Junta - right from the getgo!!

[Hubert Flottz]

18. What could be a more catastrophic event than::::::::::::::::

The Supreme Court Selling Out To Bushco?