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nixonwasbetterthanW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:52 AM
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Fred Barnes is either extraordinarily ignorant or a congenital liar

Anyone seen dailyhowler.com in the past couple of days?

It appears that Fred Barnes is incapable of telling the truth. They were discussing the alleged Saddam-al Qaeda link on Brit Hume's "Special Report" last Thursday. Fred could contain himself no longer at the outrageous "lie" put forward by the usually reliable Bush toady Juan WIlliams. So the following exchange took place:

WILLIAMS: Well, I think it’s true when says that President Bush led us to believe that somehow Saddam Hussein might have had connections to Al Qaeda—

BARNES: I think Bush said exactly the opposite, consistently! Exactly the opposite!


Is there any truth to what Barnes says here? What could he possibly be thinking? Is he woefully out of the loop or simply a bald-faced prevaricator?
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:54 AM
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1. Yeah, I read this at MWO
I dont get it, nobody on the show challenged him on this.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:59 AM
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2. well, you don't think the toady juan williams was going to call them out
on it did you?

jeez, what eunuch juan williams is. and barnes is a professional liar.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 07:59 AM
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3. well, you don't think the toady juan williams was going to call them out
on it did you?

jeez, what eunuch juan williams is. and barnes is a professional liar.
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 08:03 AM
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4. Fallacy of the excluded middle
It's not either/or-- he's both, just like his hero *
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 08:23 AM
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6. Quite right! The 2 are not mutually exclusive! n/t
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 08:03 AM
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5. Fred is incredible...
When the US military announced that they'd killed Saddam's 2 sons, he exclaimed that 2/3 of the Hussein Regime had been eliminated.

Yep, he's an idiot AND a liar.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:26 AM
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7. Fred Barnes should turn in his press credentials. What a disgrace.
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DemLikr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:34 AM
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8. Fred Barnes is not IGNORANT; far from it. He is willfully and knowingly
pursuing an agenda of lies, deception, ruthlessness; as far-right as it is far-fucked.

When are we going to learn to accept that these type of people are NOT NICE; they don't give a fuck about rules, or right or wrong, or justice or reason. They care about WINNING...and yet they aren't clear on exactly what it is they are winning, except on a very surface "Clintons are Evil" kind of level.

Please don't waste time trying to understand these people; they are EVIL.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 12:02 PM
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9. he's a neocon
which means he is both.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 12:11 PM
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10. Constitutionally incapable of being honest.
n/t
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