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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:39 AM
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Jordan Embassy bombing -- think CHALABI!
First, read this thread in LBN: Curiouser and Curiouser

Then pay special attention to post #'s 11 and 16.

Then, THINK. Understand the implications.

Realize that it is a given that there are and will be all manner of covert strategies being used to put down Iraqi resistance AND keep the American people pumped up for "The War on Terror".

Also understand that Iraq will be deliberately prevented from stablizing until a fully-U.S. controlled puppet regime can be put in charge. The last thing the PNAC cabal wants is for Iraq civil society to reconstitute and become strong enough to assert self-determination.

Keep in mind that no matter nasty and ugly the surface of this Iraq adventure looks, underneath it is even MORE nasty and ugly.

sw
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:46 AM
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1. Possible but unlikely
Much more of a motive for the millions of Muslims who despised Jordan's support for the US during the war.

Chalabi is a two-bit criminal who doesn't command any power right now. And it's against the US's interests to alienate Jordan right now--we're attempting to build a pipeline through their country which will supply Israel with 25% of the energy.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:48 AM
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3. US may not of had anything to say in the matter.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 12:09 PM
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6. Chalabi is ALOT more than a "two-bit criminal"!
Have you been paying attention to the players in this grand geo-strategic farce? The connections between Rumsfeld's OSP and Chalabi's INC? His 700-strong private militia that was flown into Iraq by the Pentagon this past April? Do you think they all just rolled over and played dead after decades of scheming and making cozy connections with the Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz cabal?

Chalabi and his group are some of the MAJOR players in this hostile takeover -- his connections to dirty international banking alone (you ARE aware of BCCI and all that, I hope!) make him much more than a "two-bit criminal"...

sw

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 12:15 PM
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9. Also, I was just reminded yesterday that Chalabi
is one of the Straussian neo-cons who graduated from the University of Chicago along with Wolfowitz, and others.

Eloriel
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:46 AM
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2. Thanks for reposting... Makes you Think!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:59 AM
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4. this was first reported
by the arabnews on the 7th/8th. it took several days for some of the american press to pick this story up. the first stories by the whores in america pointed to bin and the boys or those bad iraqi`s...who really knows, but i`m sure they won`t blame rummies` boy....
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 12:02 PM
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5. And think of the first letter in his name, the last letter in his name...
and the 3rd letter in his name? Divide and conquer? Anyone seen the movie "The Quiet American"? The CIA has been involved in bombing such as these before...
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 12:14 PM
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8. I posted my own "Quiet American" connection in the LBN thread...
I just finished re-reading that book last night. When I saw that LBN thread this morning it was light bulb time -- "Of COURSE!"

The bombing of the Continental in Saigon -- it's a classic black op!

sw
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 12:18 PM
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10. It makes more sense than any other explanation at the moment....
Just as Chalabi managed to get his supporters to surround the Saddam statue when it was dragged down by the American GIs, it is very possible the same supporters came out to "cheer" the death of Iraqis in the car bombing of the Jordanian Embassy. It makes no sense.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 12:13 PM
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7. If America through the cabal and PNAC helped Chalabi take revenge
on or send a message to a country that has been better than a friend to the U.S., things are nearly hopeless here. Seekers of peace, beware - for you are temporarily abandoned. All forces of evil reign - temporarily. The American press is a fraud. The military is a tool. Our children are the lambs.

Chalabi - the CIA sure knows how to pick 'em and the cabal sure knows hot to use 'em.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 12:42 PM
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11. It would serve the purpose of others also...
to try and get Arabs against Arabs. Divide, disrupt, and divert their opposition to America. I could see this as an intelligence strategy.
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 12:47 PM
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12. Here is post #16 from that other thread -- it's a message for Jordan......
Edited on Sun Aug-10-03 12:52 PM by DagmarK
"Middle East TV news channel ADTV just pointed out via a Jordanian political expert that the bombing of Jordanian embassy in Baghdad comes just 48 hours after the Jordanian judiciary demanded the handover of fraudulent banker and Iraqi "opposition" figure Ahmed Chalabi, darling of the US government and key Iraqi figure the US plans to give the lions hare of political clout in "new" Iraq!

The expert noted that this was a "message" clearly sent to Jordan from Chalabi's "supporters" not the Iraqi resistance to military occupation! Yet again, no group claims responsibility for another BIG car bombing.

- From WRH Letters Section 8/7/03"

**Posted by Jewel Digger

2 days after Jordan requests that Chalabi be extradited to Jordan so he can begin serving his 22 year prison term of hard labor......the J embassy goes BOOM in Iraq?

Anyone who wants to reduce that down to sheer good luck for Chalabi...... go right ahead. He's one of the dirtiest evil ones in the whole bunch.

My question is: WHY aren't all the other OPEC nations shutting this insane US operation down? There have got to be some pretty big handshake promises going on..... and I really want to give more credit to the middle eastern countries for being smart enough to NEVER trust the USA and never turn their backs on the USA. Are the arab monarchies really sooooooo cold, calculating, evil and greedy that they would sell out their people? (I wish the former King Hussain of Jordan were still alive; I think he was a real people's servant.....could be wrong...but he was decent enough to have Queen Nora marry him (is that her name)).

I guess I could ask the same thing about the operators in the neo-con movement. I KNOW they are that cold, greedy, and evil to sell out their own country and people.....

Is there ANY power group of human beings on this earth who is NOT pure evil? I can only conclude that there is one such group: The Tibetans. and look where that's gotten them! At least they have dignity and honor -- I hope that counts for something...

Humans are soooooo evil........I feel bad for all the sweet animals on the earth who must endure us...... **weep**
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 01:02 PM
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13. An interesting tidbit of info from a right-wing site:
http://www.americanfreedomnews.com/afn_articles/bushsecrets.htm

<snip>
The BCCI connection, therefore, linked George W. Bush with Saudi banker Khaled bin Mahfouz. Known in Arab circles as the “king’s treasurer,” Mahfouz held a 20 percent take in BCCI between 1986 and 1990. Mahfouz is no stranger to the Bush family. He was a big investor in the Carlyle Group, a defense-industry investment group with deep connections to the Republican Party establishment. Former President Bush is a former member of the company’s board of directors. George W. Bush also held shares in Caterair, a Carlyle subsidiary. Sami Baarma, a powerful player in the Mahfouz-owned Prime Commercial Bank of Pakistan, is a member of the Carlyle Group’s international advisory board.

President Bush certainly is aware of that his former Saudi sugar daddy is still financing Osama bin Laden’s terrorist network. USA Today newspaper reported in 1999 that a year after bin Laden’s attacks on US embassies in Africa, Khaled bin Mahfouz and other wealthy Saudis were funneling tens of millions of dollars each year into bin Laden’s bank accounts. Five top Saudi businessmen ordered the National Commercial Bank to transfer personal funds and $3 million pilfered from a Saudi pension fund to the Capitol Trust Bank in New York City. The money was deposited into the Islamic Relief and Blessed Relief - Islamic charities operating in the US and Great Britain as fronts for Osama bin Laden.

...more
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 03:03 PM
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15. And don't forget Grover Norquist....
affiliated with and represents organizations connected to Mahfouz and the Islamic Institute.

You know Norquist - put Reagan on Mt. Rushmore, Norquist, plus more.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 01:19 PM
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14. Jordan has along with the Israelis the best intelligence operation in the
region and they didn't see this coming...

That smells a little fishy to me.
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