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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 04:54 PM
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Coulter exposed: there should only be one party
Edited on Sun Aug-10-03 04:56 PM by quinnox
She was just on Cspan and essentially admitted her fascist nature - She said this in response to a question:
"The Democrats need to go away. There should be two parties, the Republicans and the moderate Republicans"

Is she so dumb she doesn't see the problem with this?

Maybe she secretly liked Saddams regime after all.

I bet she has a picture of Hitler in her bedroom.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 04:57 PM
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1. That's a pretty accurate summation of the way it is now

There is basically one party - the Corporate Oligarchy Party, with two branches. Any politician or hopeful who does not toe the line will not get money, and money determines who is elected, in the cases of elections where votes are counted as cast.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 04:59 PM
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2. her ignorance is
astounding
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 05:04 PM
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3. Amazing, isn't it?? She's been totally mainstreamed now..
:(..

She went from being a shrill loony harpy, and after being invited to all the screaming head shows, and scribbling 3 goofball stream of consciousness books (sans footnotes or facts), she has arrived at mainstream..

This is how they DO it, folks..:(
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 05:04 PM
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4. She sure takes up a lot of air.
I keep thinking that the Nazi wannabes like Coulter are simply being outrageous not only to attract attention, but to make Bush, Rove and the rest look tame by comparison. Thus, the "compassionate conservatives" still appeal to the majority of Americans, who are firmly in the center. Does anyone else think that?
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 05:41 PM
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10. I agree. And if we had leadership
we'd do something parallel.

but we don't have any leadership. Unless you consider Barney Frank the left's version.

Seeing Kucinich today made me realize that we need someone to "play" the left to demonstrate that Dean is the moderate. This needs to be orchestrated.

Then of course we need some wackos like Coulter to make ALL of us look very reasonable.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 05:44 PM
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11. I Agree with Tenna + Maggrr
It's all pristeen bullshit. Anne deserves to be slapped around for hours,but,she might enjoy it!

Ann's future?:nuke:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 05:57 PM
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13. Can I be the wacko? Please? Please?
I favor national health, no HMO middlemen.

I believe in nationalizing our energy resources.

I want to build a huge national aqueduct system that would allocate water where it's needed, and take it away from where it's not.

Wacko enough for you?
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cherryperry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 08:53 PM
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17. You seriously consider your post "wacko"?
I seriously am in agreement with your points! In fact, I'll vote for you if you decide to run . . .

:toast:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:52 AM
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19. We have wackos and centrists
No true Democrats. That seems to me to be the problem. Seems to me whenever a liberal is on TV they're either namby pamby or way way left. Or we get Donna Brazil. How many true, reasonable Democrats, like RFK Jr, do you see? Not too many.
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mrfrapp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 06:29 AM
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22. Yes
In the UK, there's an actual Nazi party that has become popular mainly because of the perceived problem of political refugees. Now, their policies with regards to asylum is simply the logical extension of New Labour party politics. I'm almost convinced therefore that the Nazi party is being sponsered in some way (if only through being mentioned and rightly, criticised in the media) to make the New Labour agenda seem liberal in comparison.

In other words, it is part of a systematic attempt to move the poltical centre to the right.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 05:09 PM
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5. The Nazi Neocons and the Republicans
Someone needs to correct the names she's using to describe the two ideologies. Then at least we move closer to showing the American people what the hell is going on.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 06:42 AM
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23. Read this book on how former Nazis (real ones)
were welcomed into the Republican party following WWII. Here is a blurb from a review of the book:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0896084183/qid=1060601742/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-7322689-0690325?v=glance&s=books

Editorial Reviews
From Library Journal
Bellant convincingly documents three arguments in this short, journalistic book. First, many people who had been active in Nazi or pro-Nazi groups in Eastern Europe in the 1930s and 1940s subsequently came to this country, often under the auspices of the Displaced Persons Commission. Second, many of these emigres then became active in political and ethnic groups affiliated with the Republican Party, providing financial and electoral support and crusading relentlessly against Communism. Third, and most important, some of the most unsavory elements of the anti-Communist right gained a foothold in official foreign policy circles under Reagan. Bellant's case is strong and disturbing, but his book is terribly organized, and the meaningful arguments are mixed in with overstated claims (especially the suggestions of a fascist conspiracy) and charges based only on political disagreement, not malfeasance. An optional purchase.
-Timothy Christenfeld, Columbia Univ.
Copyright 1991 Reed Business Information, Inc.

This stuff is real and not merely the fantasy of Herr Aschcroft and Herr Rumsfeld.

I grew up in Illinois and Paul Findlay was a congressman from Peoria, IL when I was growing up. In the mid 1970s he proposed something akin to workfare which would mandate that welfare recipients work for their benefits. At the time that was seen as extreme considering how little people receive in welfare benefits. Almost 30 years later that train of thought is no longer seen as extreme.

The same could be said of many things the Repukes are saying today. While much of what they say is extreme by today's standards as long as they continue to stay on message it will soon become part of the cultural norm and accepted.

This is where Democrats fail. Dems do not stay on message. Instead in their zeal not to offend any group they water down their message.
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 05:12 PM
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6. That is a fairly good historical assessment.
The Democrats could end up in some sort of permanent minority status, and the real political decisions would be made via GOP primary politics.

Thats sort of what happened in Kentucky gubernatorial politics in the 1970s...where the GOP was forced into an also-ran position, and the real battles where the Democratic primarys.
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Ohio Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 05:12 PM
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7. Other one-party systems:
Bathist Iraq

Soviet Union

Cuba

Nazi Germany

Every time Coulter says this, all the other one-party systems should be brought up, then Annie can explain why she wants the USA to be one of them.
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 05:20 PM
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8. i agree with tennessee
she's a trial balloon

she throws it to the wall to see what sticks
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 05:26 PM
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9. The antebellum USA.
There was a period in US history with "one party government", prior to the Jackson Administration.

This was the so-called "Era of Good Feelings"...1816 to 1829.


So it has happened before...on two occasions the "second party" in the two party system disappeared...first the Federalists, later the Whigs....
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 06:01 PM
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14. Why is she never confronted with her 09-12-01 quote?
Edited on Sun Aug-10-03 06:03 PM by PurityOfEssence
That should be the first volley fired by any interviewer:

Hey Ann, on 09-12-01 you had an article published with the line "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." Do you still stand by that?

What about her quote about Lindh where she said that liberals should know that they're facing execution for their actions?

Does she still think that women shouldn't be allowed to vote?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 06:32 PM
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15. She has been asked about that...
...and she says that the first two became official policy soon after the attacks.

You can see a clip of her responding to this as well as things about her older book /Slander/ here:

http://msnbc.com/m/mw/mw.asp?t=V&id=tdy_coulter_slander_020626&sk=&pl=&name=&opt=0
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dani Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:56 AM
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20. I like this one better
loonier...

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."
(Ann Coulter in a New York Observer interview, 8/20/2002)


How a person who would say such things is all over television I just don't understand.
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alaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:29 AM
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21. I saw this a few weeks ago, she said there should be
two parties, moderate republicans and republicans, that the moderate republicans can have "their abortion and their gay marriage and their confiscatory taxes"; I remember, because I looked up "confiscatory" in the dictionary, as it is not there (in my dictionary, which is old) it may be a coulterism.

The NYT article about the Club for Growth (sunday) seems to confirm there are two republican parties, the libertarians and the republicans.

It seems to me we may yet have a four or five party system, a left and right of the traditional parties, and the independents (I count greens as left democrats).
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 06:50 PM
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16. I am sure Joe Lieberman would agree! n/t
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Syn_Dem Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 12:49 AM
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18. Man.
Not even Holy Joe is comparable to Anne Coulter. :puke:
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