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demodewd (513 posts) Thu May-13-04 11:25 PM
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Questions & Observations re: Berg beheading
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1. Both Drudge and Aljazeera report that "ööA body found on Monday by US military patrol along a roadside over the weekend was identified as Berg's."
ALJAZEERA
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/C6F93CE0-8FCB-425E-BD40-672B38C... Note the confused reporting in this direct quote, "on Monday", "over the weekend", by US military patrol. Was it found on Monday or over the weekend--which one? Does this make sense to anyone? Or was someone scrambling a press release (in panic) of wording that was hastily contrived, and uncertain themselves about how the facts would compare to the report. VAGUE TIMING BEGS THE QUESTION, WHEN WAS THIS BODY REALLY FOUND?
Secondly, how was the body identified as "Berg's", if it was headless? Or was it? How do you quickly identify a body without a head?
Third, WHO were the U.S. forces that found it? Were they the same ones involved in his illegal detention?
2. HERE IS THE SMOKING GUN: If the body was found on Monday (May 10th), or previously "over the weekend" (prior), how could the execution and video be taped on May 11th, as is reported?
"The statement in the video was signed off with Zarqawi's name and dated 11 May" (Drudge and Aljazeerah).
An Arab magic trick indeed...to be able to execute a man on video tape ("May 11"), AFTER HIS BODY IS FOUND BY US FORCES, on "May 10th"!!!!! The video is not the only thing that appears fuzzy!!
3. The video was dated May 11th, typical Judeo-Masonic (CIA/MOSSAD) signature and M.O., like 9/11, and the recent 3/11 in Spain. Sorry, there is an M.O. to this "terrorism" that matches that of government psy-ops! Funny how they never mention the obvious pattern of dating isn't it? And the "terrorist" signed his name to the video, though they wore hoods and masks! (Why?)
4. Berg's father filed law suit against the illegal detention of their son....and, bingo, he was released the next day (but not very popular we can be certain)!
"His father, filed a lawsuit on 5 April stating Berg was being held illegally by the US military in Iraq. The next day Berg was released." Aljazeera and Drudge
5. The Guatanamo Bay type US issue prison suit is very suspicious! Either he was handed over to the alleged "terrorists" in it--meaning US forces complicity to rid them of an American "dissident"--or the executions are Government--i.e. CIA (well-fed, lily white hands, hooded...but leaving the name of the executioner?)!
6. According to the video clock notations in the film, the "execution" took place between 13:46 and 13:47....apparently around 1:46 to 1:47 pm. Why is the video time not in Arabic? Do Arabs use military time?
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7. "God is great".....typical propaganda to libel militant Muslim jihaders with the crime, while they have lily white hands, their victim in US issue prison clothes, and video time in US military English!
8. The TIMING of this event being reported to the American public, on May 11th evening (note how quickly this went to full-blown news coverage by 6:30pm EDT on the very day of the execution......fast......and conveniently. Even MORE remarkable is how this was reported to Congress (not sure when) during WORK HOURS IN SESSION, precisely as the Pentagon, Rumsfeld, etc., were being grilled, and Senators were investigation the horrific prisoner abuse, and who was behind it! TALK ABOUT WELL-COORDINATED AND EXPEDITED 1) EXECUTION 2) BODY FOUND, IDENTIFIED, 3)NOTIFICATION OF KIN, 4) REPORTED TO CONGRESS...5) RELEASE IN FULL DETAIL WITH VIDEO TO NETWORK NEWS..........ALL IN ONE AMAZING DAY!!!!!
Is that a credible timetable WITHOUT government involvement? The 9/11 "hijackers" were not even identified for a couple days....but this one is instantly solved, and we are expected to swallow it whole without choking!
8. The pattern of US government information, from Bush, the Pentagon, Jessica Lynch, justification for Iraq, the "911" story is a HISTORY OF PROVEN LIES AND FALSEHOODS FOR POLITICAL ENDS!!! So why should ANYONE believe this!!
This is the most inaccurate combination of facts of any realistic scenario of an execution and identification of who did it--contrived in panic and haste to deflect the outcoming of literal "war crimes" by US forces--that would not be sustained in any court of law, except that of the naive and brainwashed American mind, that has a Yankee flag wrapped around its eyes and ears!
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Video timestamp salvorhardin May-13-04 11:41 PM #1
Someone posted a lot about this earlier.... LynzM May-13-04 11:53 PM #3
Thanks! Must have missed it. salvorhardin May-14-04 12:11 AM #4
lingua franca misanthropist May-14-04 12:16 AM #5
And, AND NecessaryOnslaught May-13-04 11:51 PM #2
salvorhardin (150 posts) Thu May-13-04 11:41 PM
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1. Video timestamp
The question regarding the numbers used on the videotape doesn't pan out as roman numerals are the lingua franca of electronic displays as so many of them are used. I doubt there are any companies making character generator chips which output arabic numerals.
However, regarding the timestamp itself, I haven't seen anyone pick up on how it so wildly skips around. The early part of the tape bears timestamps indicating it took place between 1 AM and 2 AM then the execution is indeed timestamped about 15 minutes before 2 PM, but then when the executioner is holding up the severed head, the timestamp jumps back to between 1 AM and 2 AM.
I already deleted my copy of the video so I can't be more accurate.
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LynzM (957 posts) Thu May-13-04 11:53 PM
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3. Someone posted a lot about this earlier....
They analyzed it and felt that it was two cameras, with the videos spliced together. It was earlier tonight, if you want to look for it...
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salvorhardin (150 posts) Fri May-14-04 12:11 AM
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4. Thanks! Must have missed it.
Just like Fox Mulder's poster reads, "I want to believe" but this time I want to believe that Al Quaeda beheaded an innocent American live on-camera. However, the more I examine this issue the more the suspicion grows. I hope I am deluding myself.
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misanthropist (3 posts) Fri May-14-04 12:16 AM
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5. lingua franca
Um ... roman numarals are I II III IV.
1 2 3 4 are Arabic.
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NecessaryOnslaught (135 posts) Thu May-13-04 11:51 PM
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2. And, AND
what about the Berg-Moussaoui "encounter" In OK?
"Government sources told CNN that the encounter involved an acquaintance of Zacarias Moussaoui -- the only person publicly charged in the United States in connection with the September 11, 2001, terror attacks.
According to Berg, his son was taking a course a few years ago at a remote campus of the University of Oklahoma near an airport. He described how on one particular day, his son met "some terrorist people -- who no one knew were terrorists at the time."
At one point during the bus ride, Berg said, the man sitting next to his son asked if he could use Nick's laptop computer.
"It turned out this guy was a terrorist and that he, you know, used my son's e-mail, amongst many other people's e-mail who he did the same thing to," Berg said.
Government sources said Berg gave the man his password, which was later used by Moussaoui, the sources said.
The sources said the man who used Berg's e-mail knew Moussaoui, now awaiting trial on federal charges that could bring a death sentence. But the sources would not disclose details of how the men were connected."
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