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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 04:28 AM
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This is one hot file, Big pieces of ENRON, BCCI, IRAQ, BFEE
This was way too Hot to let languish in the bottom of thread

Originaly posted by jfkennedy on this thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=157573

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http://www.john-loftus.com/enron3.asp

The Press on the BCCI-bin Mahfouz-bin Laden Intelligence Nexus

About the author: As a former federal prosecutor, John Loftus had an insider’s knowledge of high level intelligence operations, including obstruction of Congressional investigations. Loftus resigned from the Justice Department in 1981 to expose how the intelligence community had recruited Nazi war criminals and then concealed the files from Congressional subpoena. After appearing on an Emmy Award winning segment of 60 Minutes, Loftus has spent the next two decades writing histories of intelligence cover-ups, and serving as an unpaid lawyer helping other whistleblowers inside US intelligence.
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 06:41 AM
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1. Need to keep this upfront
Very interesting........
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:06 AM
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2. Thank goodness somebody else is reading it, I thought I missed
something. It unlocked a lot views of things on so many things connecting with this and so many others things on this board, that might seem unconnected, but really are, thanks for the :kick:
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:32 AM
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3. and another link
http://www.freezerbox.com/archive/article.asp?id=257



In December 1997, the London Telegraph reported that Taliban representatives were close to signing a deal with Unocal, a California-based oil company, to construct a pipeline across Afghanistan. Bin Mahfouz's Delta Oil was heavily involved in the negotiations, and acted as a liaison between the Taliban and Unocal. At the same time, incidentally,

***Enron CEO Ken Lay (Kenny Boy to the President)****

was contracted to conduct feasibility studies for the Unocal-Delta joint venture. Unocal publicly urged the Clinton administration to recognize the Taliban, despite Osama bin Laden's very welcome presence in the country it controlled. Clinton was reluctant to do so, however, and the Afghan pipeline project hung in negotiations limbo for years—as recently as January 2001, the Bush administration was still meeting with Taliban representatives to work out an oil deal. There is no reason to believe that Delta, and therefore bin Mahfouz, had relinquished its interest in the Afghan pipeline by this time."

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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 08:47 AM
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5. That is another pretty good piece, who would of thoght, really
Edited on Tue Aug-12-03 09:11 AM by nolabels
But seeing how the Kerry / BCCI thing went one could of guessed.
Maybe people don't want to see this stuff, but what else could be done. I mean could they really give the answer of "don't worry about, it will go away someday". That's called denial, isn't it?

I rembered about how Clinton came out to defend * on that talk show a week or two ago. Desert fox, what was up that? but this is a connection check this part of the link.

http://www.john-loftus.com/enron3.asp

The Press on the BCCI-bin Mahfouz-bin Laden Intelligence Nexus

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The Israeli government is angered and bewildered over the sudden switch, and has begun to release documents showing prior US knowledge of Al Qaida operations as well as Saudi support for terrorism. As Crown Prince Abdullah's visit to both Bushes in Texas showed, a modus vivendi has been reached.

The simplest explanantion is that both Crown Prince Abdullah and President Bush can blackmail each other over the Taliban pipeline. Both sides have agreed to pretend that they have always been allies in the war against terrorism, and that Iraq is the real enemy.

Mutual blackmail makes a bit of sense. The Saudi intelligence connection was the key to get the Taliban pipeline negotiations going without the CIA or FBI finding out. The Enron political connection to the Bush and Clinton administrations was key to keeping the CIA and FBI off of the Saudis' backs while the negotiations were underway. Messy little details about terrorism were swept under the rug for the sake of the big picture.

The truth is already starting to leak out. It has just been discovered that Enron had purchased huge tracts of land in the Caspian basin, especialy in Turkmenistan, which property is allegedly still on their books. The acerage is enormous, and worthless.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 07:52 AM
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4. you ain't seen nothing yet...
i only hope that bob morgenthau can now be persuaded to publish his documentation on why he closed down bcci in NYC in the 1990s. parallel documents are before the UK high court in a UK one billion pound class action brought by thousands of small time bcci creditors who lost everything in the bcci collapse. they allege extensive coverup by bank of england (the uk's financial regulator and banking supervisor) of its knowledge of bcci shareholder and management corruption on the direct orders from former uk premiers margaret thatcher and john major, and to conceal all uk intelligence data regarding general pinochet and uk/europe based nazi war criminals and their extensive progeny, directly connected with the loftus evidence. further, corroborated evidence in this lawsuit shows the criminal links between bcci and banco ambrosiano, and how the 1980s collapse of banco ambrosiano and the murder of its chief honcho roberto calvi was the work of the notorious p2 lodge. also included is a very extensive and detailed geneaology map of the p2 lodge and evidence of which of its family members were directly responsible for the 1970's/80s plunder and collapse of the iranian banking system, and subsequent money laundering activities centred on south america. the moronic and often risible efforts of the mossad to cover this up shows their undisputed prime elegibility to claim a nobel prize for world fiction when it comes to blatant self interest. the evidence also shows that what has been defined as al-qaeda is really the islamic offshoot of the p2 lodge.
the p2 family tree is backed up by extensive dna tests data; birth, death and marriage certificates; offshore bank account numbers; passport numbers; social security numbers; medical records; tax returns etc. The branches of this family tree stretch to all five continents and the greater part of the data goes back to the late 19th century, and traces the roots of individual criminal activity.
hence, the above uk lawsuit was blocked and stonewalled by successive uk adminsitrations since the 1990s, but new recent evidence has meant an official go ahead was finally given recently, with a provisional trial date of january 2004 being set. the main reasons for repeated blocking of this lawsuit appear to be that it would identify all the successive heads of the p2 lodge, country by country, and the criminal matrix of banks, lawyers and politicians that has sustained and fed off criminal activity.
UK premier tony blair told the british parliament earlier this year that "there is no enron scandal and no coverup". he was, however, acutely aware that the uk lynchpin of the p2 lodge had only relatively recently passed away after a remarkably lengthy life characterised by a splendidly fake public persona, and doubtlessly felt that, like generations of previous uk premiers, the uk official secrets act would do to cover up illicit hush money payments to this lynchpin's entourage and extended family. guess where much of the 1990's money came from? that's right, a collapsed texan energy giant! and the conudit for all this dosh? a group of us and uk based banks, spearheaded by an asian mega bank, one which is actually named in the bcci lawsuit being heard in the uk next january.
the loftus papers cited are just the tip of the iceberg. remember barbara bush's public apologia "we were just the hired staff"? later to be countered by peals of pride on presidential inauguration day when she blithely proclaimed that she had "married one and given birth to one"? she's had a good run for her money, i expect it's now time to take an official look at her real, uncensored memoirs.

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 08:55 AM
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6. Drop kick
the BFEE, BCCI and all the rest of them through the goalposts of Hell.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 06:17 AM
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11. goal posts of hell?
bush senior/cheney/rumsfeld have been moving the goal posts for the last 40 years, so don't hold much hope for your drop kick!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:48 AM
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7. What would happen if Morgenthau became Attorney General
under President Kerry?

The BFEE would be broken.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:54 AM
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8. That I would like to see
But they would make something sinister happen first.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 01:13 PM
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10. Maybe Kerry has that covered.
He has lived to fight another day, hasn't he?
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:19 PM
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9. kick
kick
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 06:22 AM
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12. impeachment's too good for this one
the charge should read treason
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