US military downgrades amputees as "not seriously injured"

[indictrichardperle]

http://www.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_article.php?articleId=15321&lang=en

i would appreciate it if someone could download this, im having trouble doing that, thanks. This would be a good LBN post.

[wuushew]

1. monty python

>ARTHUR: I command you as King of the Britons to stand aside!
>BLACK KNIGHT: I move for no man.
>ARTHUR: So be it!
>>effects]
>ARTHUR: Now stand aside, worthy adversary.
>BLACK KNIGHT: 'Tis but a scratch.
>ARTHUR: A scratch? Your arm's off!
>BLACK KNIGHT: No, it isn't.
>ARTHUR: Well, what's that then?
>BLACK KNIGHT: I've had worse.
>ARTHUR: You liar!

[Brian Sweat]

4. BLACK KNIGHT: It's Just a flesh wound

What is a serious injury?

[Loonman]

2. Comments from Russians in the forum

This Story Says It All
àâòîð Richard Steven Hack guest â 12.08.2003 <08:53>
You can't get more obvious fake news when the US military says a guy with an amputated leg is "not seriously injured". It doesn't get more callous than that.

Has anyone else heard
àâòîð LadyLawyer guest â 12.08.2003 <08:55>
that we are housing wounded soldiers in hotels? Please give site if you have read or seen this. Thank you.

Modern Warfare
àâòîð guest â 12.08.2003 <09:01>
A great way to lower casualties, the 'miltary' could simply ask the injured wether their want injuries published, if they dont, great, no one has to know about it due to 'privacy concerns'. Then again they could just lie, heh.
Who cares ?

àâòîð EM guest â 12.08.2003 <09:22>
Your son-in-law does not work for Haliburton, he is not crucial for Bush's presidential campaign and finally he can not defend the state of Israel and looted oil in Iraq any longer. So why do you think US government should care ?

lies
àâòîð mss guest â 12.08.2003 <09:27>
i remember earlier having lots of discussions w people regarding wether the US military would and infact could lie about casualties ... I guess after this the discussion would be over ... If you can call an amputee 'not seriously injured', you can fake reasons of death as well ... so the soldiers dead due to 'non combat related injuries', well its just plain hogwash then I guess ...

The U.S. Government
àâòîð Ed guest â 12.08.2003 <10:43>
So many people in the US are pro-war, then afterwards, the U.S. Government hopes that the veterans will fucking die in the VA hospital wards.

Send Bush's daughter
àâòîð guest â 12.08.2003 <11:20>
See how he would feel id his daughter is amputated. Or the children of Cheney, Dumsfeld, Powelless. THe meaning of amputees would be something else.

2 things:
àâòîð Franz-Joseph (Ger) guest â 12.08.2003 <11:24>
1. "a stump can be made to fit a computerized leg" - Yes sure, but with no health insurance........................................? /> 2. "I was told it would not be good for the President" Thas clearly a sign how perfect the US-media-mind-control works these days. President=Fuehrer. Heil Bush !

Mothers
àâòîð guest â 12.08.2003 <15:02>
Don't send your babies to die for bush, and his corporate sponsors! Send the twins!

[tedoll78]

3. By all means, send this to your local media outlet.

This is sickening. Not reporting serious injuries because "it would not be good for the President." What the $^%#@!

Here's the link:
http://www.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_article.php?articleId=15321&lang=en

Here's CNN's feedback page:
www.cnn.com/feedback/

Absolutely dispicable. Horrible..

[indictrichardperle]

5. someone post this on LBN

and cut and past some key points of the article. More people need to see this. I would but i was having a hard time downloading it. TIA.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

10. But Bush doesn't politicize war

he's above that kind of politics :eyes:

[grytpype]

6. "If you're playing football or something, try to favor the other leg."

"So it will grow back, will it?"

[NYC]

7. Article not at your link, just comments:

Letter In Response to Article "Respect the Troops – Not Their Spineless Leaders"
by Christopher Deliso.

Thank you for your article – I wish more people could see it – the truth.

My son in law is in Ward 57 at Walter Reed. Lost his right leg to an RPG attack – the press is ignoring the number of injuries – especially amputees.

Except for the Washington Post article they want to forget it. When I asked at Walter Reed why in my son-in-law's attack near Kirkuk on July 9 did the Army Public Affairs officer say no one was seriously hurt – I was told it would not be good for the President. My son-in-law was then in very serious condition in a field hospital in Kirkuk flown shortly later to Germany in very serious condition. Yet the public announcement was "no one seriously injured."

The other story is how the guys and gals in Ward 57 are being treated. Outside of Jessica Lynch. The nurses have to scramble and snag wound vacuums that work – some of them don't – canisters for the vacuums are in short supply. The nurses, most of them, try very hard. So does the infections doctor – a great guy. But the ortho surgeons – well, basically it is – do what is quick, get it over, get them out – so they have room for the next one. Right now though my son-in-law has about 5" left on his right thigh – and a VA doctor in Denver who has 30 years experience says with time and no infection a stump can be made to fit a computerized leg.

Christopher Deliso replies:

My heart goes out to you. Hearing stories like yours leaves me amazed – how can the government spend so much money and be so efficient at getting our soldiers into harm's way – and at the same fail to have an adequate medical response in place for their return? Why are they having to commandeer rooms from nearby hotels to service all the wounded? Should we interpret the obvious failure to plan in advance for a large number of casualties as proof of the low prioritization the government is giving the troops?

http://www.antiwar.com/letters/letters.html

Èñòî÷íèê: DS Wayman AntiWar.Com

(30 êîììåíò.)

[NYC]

8. Do you have a different link?

All I could find was the info. I posted in post #7.

[indictrichardperle]

9. no i dont unfortunately

but the letter and follow comments are pretty substantial. I think alot of very angry veterans are going to return. Noone is going to re-up, they have to have a draft if they want to follow out pnac. For a draft to be politically feasible, there must be a pre-text.

[NYC]

11. Is what I posted in post #7

what you were looking for? It was all I found on the page. If that's what you want, go post it in LBN.

[SoCalDem]

12. The soldiers in Ward 57..you gotta read this article

SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-27-03 09:37 AM
Original message
The Soldiers of Ward 57...powerful stuff here

Edited on Sun Jul-27-03 09:42 AM by SoCalDem
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/flash/photo/nation/2003-07-19_JohnFernandez/index_frames_archive.htm



The Soldiers of Ward 57
The War After the War
Soldiers' Battle Shifts From Desert Sands to Hospital Linoleum




http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/images/I18056-2003Jul20L

Pfc. Garth Stewart undergoes therapy daily to try to regain strength. He lost 20 pounds and part of his left leg. (Michael Lutzky/The Washington Post)



_____In This Series_____

• Part II: Moving Forward, One Step at a Time (The Washington Post, Jul 20, 2003)

___ Video ___
Purple Hearts
Marine Gunnery Sgt. David Dill, 39, and Lance Cpl. John A. Keeney, 20, were awarded the Purple Heart for their sacrifices in Iraq. Both were recuperating at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda.



By Anne Hull and Tamara Jones
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, July 20, 2003; Page A01


First of two articles

The taxicab pulls up to the curb of Walter Reed Army Medical Center, and Pfc. Garth Stewart slides into the back seat. A nurse stows his duffel bag in the trunk, offering her last advice. "Move your leg around on the flight," she says.

The American flag hangs slack on the flagpole. Garth lays his crutches across his lap. The lanky 20-year-old soldier from Minnesota rubs the place where his leg was amputated. The throbbing alternates with jolts that feel like electrical shocks. Two Percocets are in his pocket for the plane ride home.

As the cab cuts through Rock Creek Park, Garth rolls down the window to smell the forest. After weeks of hospital food and disinfectant, he breathes deeply. He rips the plastic hospital ID bracelet from his wrist and crumples it in a ball.

The bed that Garth left behind on Ward 57 will be filled by day's end. Even though major combat operations in Iraq are over, the wounded keep arriving. Twice a week, transport planes land at Andrews Air Force Base, bringing fresh casualties. Accidents, ambushes, pockets of resistance. Nearly 650 soldiers have passed through Walter Reed during Operation Iraqi Freedom, more than half of them since the conflict was officially declared over.

On TV, the war was a rout, with infrared tanks rolling toward Baghdad on a desert soundstage. But the permanent realities unfold more quietly on Georgia Avenue NW, behind the black iron gates of the nation's largest military hospital.


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