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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:24 PM
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Why do liberals watch Fox News??????
The thought always crosses my mind when I read the threads like, "O'Reilly just lied about " or "Hannity just said ."

Don't you realize you're helping to perpetuate the lie? When your TV is tuned to that station, their ratings go up.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:25 PM
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1. To see the other side of the argument.
n/t
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JustJoe Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:30 PM
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4. Curious about Maura
whats-her-name. What are DUers' takes on her?
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 10:01 PM
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24. Pox News
Fox "News" is NOT the other side of the argument. Its muck-raking, rabble rousing propoganda. That sort of thing is important to the cheap-labor corporate Conservative's power base, but its not their "argument". In any case they are not interested in argueing, just entrenching their own power and getting even richer.

Progressives need to come up with a way to counter this garbage and try and get a few more people to see through the lies and act in their own (and everyone else's) interest instead the interests of those of giant multi-national corporations.
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Iluvleiberman Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:27 PM
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2. Spy on thy enemy
Not every one at Faux is a Repuke but ALL go along with the Repuke agenda.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:27 PM
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3. You can't discredit someone you've never heard, read or seen...n/t
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:30 PM
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5. They will say "to know the enemy"
I think that if you don't know the enemy by now you must have a cognitive functioning problem.

There have been days when I log in and all the threads are about Faux, Newsmax, Freakrepublic, etc. It is almost like the link section at a Right Wing website.

I love the people who post links to progressive news sites, and political analysis from a leftist perspective.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:31 PM
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6. i couldn't agree more!!!!!!!!
sgr2, thanks for posting!

i've asked this several times on here, and the typical response is: "oh well, i just wanna see what they're saying."

my response: "who the FUCK cares what the fuck they're saying!!"

lotta folks here don't realize that every minute they watch fox news, they're helping fox pay the bills... they are, like you say, perpetuating the lie...

i've been fox news free for almost 2 years now... and am much happier because of it...


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Iluvleiberman Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:33 PM
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11. You'd better care what they are saying or doing or one day....
you wake up to Tom DeLay as POTUS.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:34 PM
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13. What a freakin nightmare
but he can't be much worse then the chimp who is in the White House.
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Iluvleiberman Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:35 PM
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17. Oh contraire I think you are wrong
He is as fundamentalists as they come.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 10:55 PM
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32. I agree
To put it in perspective, the Chimp is a puppet whose master is Dick Cheney and his cronies. Delay is NOT a puppet; he is a puppet master who currently has his hands up the backsides of Rick "Goodhair" Perry, Republican House leader Tom Craddick, AND TX Lieutenant Gov. David Dewhurst in keeping them pushing the atrocious re-redistricting plans Delay wants to be implemented, over and over and over again. I seriously think DeLay is possibly the most powerful TX politician of the moment (outside of the Chimp, of course, if he is considered to be a real Texan) and that makes him very dangerous. I don't believe DeLay could ever be elected President, though... then again, they * succeeded at selling himself as a "moderate" to millions of misinformed Americans so perhaps anything's possible...
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EFF BrandyWine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 10:59 PM
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33. Curiously, I am beginning to think that "fundamentalist" isn't....
the proper word to use to describe these (and other) people. After all, fundamental really means basic. I would rather use the word "extremist" instead. That makes a better case, y'think?
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:35 PM
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16. no
i can find out what "they're saying" by getting my news online and from other sources... not by funding this right wing infotainment trash!

that you feel like fox news is the only way to get the other side is sad
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Iluvleiberman Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:37 PM
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19. It's not but it's easy to watch them since they are next to News World Int
on my Direct TV system.
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:38 PM
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21. I don't come to DU to hear all the right wing talking points
If people want to watch Faux and listen to Rush all day that is fine with me. If that is what I wanted to read I would just go to Freakrepublic or Newsmax myself.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:31 PM
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7. To see what the enemy is saying
Edited on Tue Aug-12-03 09:32 PM by VermontDem2004
but what makes us different the republicans is we actually enjoy watching debates, that's why many of us watch Maher's show.
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KalicoKitty Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:31 PM
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8. Morbid curiousity
I check in occasionally at FAUX, but don't stay there long, as I get nauseated...especially when O'Liarlly or Hannity are spewing.
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LouKYDem Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:32 PM
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9. It's just funny
It is kind of funny to see what they pass off as "news"... they take stuff that is pure right-winged propaganda and pass it along as facts. Of course, if you ask any conservative, Faux News IS fair and balanced, I've even heard some say that it is just another piece of the (non-existant) "liberal media."
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:34 PM
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12. guess you
Edited on Tue Aug-12-03 09:36 PM by newsguyatl
thought their coverage during the war was funny too huh?

what about their constant wiping of bush's ass? is that funny, too?

what about their outright propagandizing of the right wing movement? let me guess, that's a riot, too?

:eyes:
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:36 PM
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18. That is funny
I was cracking up when I was watching "Fox and Friends" the day after the French sent troops to the Congo, and the guy hosting the show said "But, that doesn't excuse them for their bad behavior." I started cracking up after hearing that, also it is funny the way they call themselves a news channel.
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LouKYDem Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:55 PM
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23. Didn't say I liked it
Yes, Fox News is funny... and to be quite honest, I RARELY watch Fox News, maybe just once a month... but I don't think that you understand what I mean. What I am saying is that they essentially make a joke of themselves, and anybody that has any intelligence at all knows that it is a lie. I didn't mean to imply (as you thought I did) that I think it is funny that they are spreading bad propaganda and making Bush sound better than he really is. That's just sad there... but for somebody like me, I like to see the joke operation in action from time to time.
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ryharrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:33 PM
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10. How do their ratings go up when my tv is tuned to that station?
Edited on Tue Aug-12-03 09:33 PM by ryharrin
Do they have gnomes sitting in my tv reporting to them? I was under the impression that ratings come from Nielsen ratings, which people have to actually fill out (I did it once, it was a pain in the ass). Can they tell what you're watching through cable now?

on edit: sorry, that first line is a bit overly sarcastic, just got back from the bars with my friends.
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Ohio Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:34 PM
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14. You don't change their ratings unless you are a Nielsen (sp?)
family. To the best of my knowledge, there is no giant automatic computer somewhere monitoring what is on every TV in the country.

I don't watch it myself, because it tends to raise my blood pressure, and I don't know how anyone here can do it, either.

But it doesn't affect ratings.

By the way, I've been meaning to tell you for some time: OUTSTANDING gif in your sig!!!
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:35 PM
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15. I like to laugh
Never turn down classic comedy like O'Reilly.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:38 PM
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20. I laugh my ass off everytime it looks like he is about to pop a vein
My favorite was when they were talking about MTV, and he was saying that they target hopeless, depressed children who can't tell the difference between reality and tv.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 09:43 PM
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22. I have NEVER watched Fox News for any length of time
If I want to see Nazi-style propaganda, I'll dust off some transcripts of old Goebbels speeches.

I completely agree that people who watch Faux help pay their bills.

Again, if I want to pay the bills of Bushevik propaganda, I can just send $20 to Uncle Karl and the TNC (Totalitarian National Committee).

:puke: :puke: :puke:
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 10:05 PM
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25. I can see clearly now.....
Edited on Tue Aug-12-03 10:06 PM by Toots
:-)
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 10:16 PM
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26. Someone on another thread called them Foxholes.
I hope they don't mind but I'm going to borrow that phrase.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 10:17 PM
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27. Their ratings only go up if you're a Neilsen family
Now, of course, your blood pressure is likely to go up...and your bullshit detector will explode.
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 10:20 PM
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28. I was going to say the same thing...
I don't watch because my blood pressure is high enough as it is.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 10:46 PM
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29. why do liberals listen to hate radio
other than to keep on eye on whos running ads on there
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Ein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 10:49 PM
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30. I did before the war
Edited on Tue Aug-12-03 10:50 PM by Ein
I would get endless entertainment from watching them spin the protests...

They'd hit on huge anti-war protests and only shop cops handcuffing people. Then they'd give 3x as much attention to a small pro-war 'protest' (the fact that some of them called it a protest is a tribute to thier idiocy... unless they were protesting our freedom of speech, then... "if you don't like it, git out" lol)

I still listen to Rush at work for an hour at most anyday. It's interesting to refute his arguments in my mind, the guy could rival Goebbels.
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 10:50 PM
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31. great tv
love it or hate it, FAUX is much more interesting than CNN or MSNBC. i catch myself watching it at times just to tell yell at the tv.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 11:18 PM
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34. there has to be some opposition
i think it's good that liberals watch that crap. how else do we learn to debate them and plan strategy based on how they operate. they are a joke, but we k now this because people watch it.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 11:34 PM
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35. Faux News is banned
in my house. I go ballistic if ANYONE ever watches it. I refuse to have that garbage polluting my airwaves.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 11:46 PM
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36. As Sun Tzu sez
If you know the enemy
and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a
hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy,
for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will
succumb in every battle.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 01:25 AM
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37. It's a video bed of nails...It feels so good when you get up off of it.
Actually, I can't stomach five minutes of Faux shit. I feel it somehow makes me a participant in their 24/7/52 propaganda for Bu$hCo and the right wing. You know exactly where each story will go, and how it will pan out -- Democrats/liberals are ALWAYS the enemy, and Clinton is their god.

Faux is exploiting the same fear-filled mindset that fundamentalist televangelists use -- you, the conservative, are good (because we have God and morals on *our* side), and godless liberals are the enemy, and are therefore "evil"; that "evil" *could* win at any time, so be on the alert, it's everywhere, you (the freeper) are endangered at every turn, so be strong and fight like hell.

To bad that there are so many fearful and ignorant people out there who actually believe this horse-flop.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 01:48 AM
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38. I rarely do -
but when I do I make a note of the sponsors to make sure I'm not buying from anyone who advertises on Fox.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 01:51 AM
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39. THE MEDIA IS NOT LIBERAL!
The media's job is to sell a story and make money. Rush and Hannity just need something to talk about.
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