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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 06:51 PM
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Holy smokes!! Does this title mean Chalabi is naming BUSH??
Who else can they possibly mean?

:shrug:

Wounded War Chimp appears to be in heap'm big trouble now!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/20/eveningnews/main618637.shtml
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 06:54 PM
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1. A drunk American.. a high level drunk? Who COULD that be? N/T
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 06:55 PM
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2. You thinkin' who I'm thinkin'?
:think:
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:05 PM
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10. a drunk Bush trying to impress Laura's crush, Chalabi
The banality of evil and incompetence. Believe that Putin is involved - when Bush "looked into his eyes" Putin went to every major power with the news that we had a complete moron for President, and the rest of the world started giving him as much rope as Bush begged for.

I fear the damage will be historic.
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Unperson 309 Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 08:33 PM
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24. I Think So, Brain...


...but Bush and Condoleezza Rice?
What would the CHILDREN look like?!

Narf!!

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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 06:55 PM
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3. Heaven forfend!
Our dearless feeder - a drunkard! What will we tell the children?
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 06:57 PM
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5. Tell 'em evil Bill Clinton drove our moral president to drinking!
Might as well tell 'em the whole truth!
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 06:56 PM
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4. Crusader Bush flipped to Bahomet :)
There is historical precendent for this ...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 06:59 PM
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6. You could not make this shit up. Never seen anything like it.
Gore's accusation of incompetence may have been too kind.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:09 PM
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14. You really couldn't!! What a trip!
:crazy:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 06:59 PM
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7. ha! again my parodies are on point today
just added this verse to "THE FEAR GOES ON" (to the tune of "THE BEAT GOES ON"

PROTESTS GREET HIM EVERYWHERE HE GOES
IS HE DRINKING? LOOK AT THAT RED NOSE!
EVERY TIME WE SEE HIS RATINGS SLIP
EXPECT ANOTHER WARNING THAT MEANS ‘ZIP’
AND THE FEAR GOES ON
AND THE FEAR GOES ON....
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:00 PM
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8. Pro-Chalabi point made on PBS Newshour:
What intelligence agent worth spit would use a blown code to tell home that the code was blown?
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:05 PM
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11. perhaps if that cia agent thought the whole political mess
was so bad that an expose might be the lesser of two evils at this stage of the game?
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:07 PM
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12. Agreed ...

As I note in another post. The Iranians may simply have been trying to determine if their codes were busted by implicating Chalabi in their communications.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:18 PM
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17. One that wanted to burn the source for some reason
:shrug:
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:51 PM
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22. The Iranian thought Chalabi....
was an idiot and didn't believe him at first--something the neocon Keystone Cops at DOD didn't recognize about him. I wonder what they think of him---privately----now? Interesting, no?
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:05 PM
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9. Something doesn't make sense
"The New York Times, citing U.S. intelligence officials, said the U.S. learned of Chalabi's activities when an Iranian intelligence agent in Baghdad sent a coded message to Tehran reporting that Chalabi had told him the U.S. had broken the codes.

According to the message, which was read by the U.S., Chalabi claimed to have gotten the information from an unnamed American who was drunk, the Times said."

Why would the Iranian agent send a coded message like this when he KNEW the code was broken????

A REAL spook would know that a compromised code could be used to mis-direct American intelligence. Besides, there are ways of communicating in secret without scrambling words. I'm sure that there would be SOME seemingly meanlingless phrase that meant their communications channel would have been compromised.

This sounds like a load of bull to me.

At the very LEAST. The Iranians could have been baiting Americans into thinking that Chalabi was their spook. If the NSA hadn't broken their codes, nothing would come of it. If they had, Chalabi would have action taken against him.

I still think Chalabi is a putz. But the biggest joke here may be on George Tenent.


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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 08:03 PM
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23. What's even more incredulous is the "didn't connect the dots" claim...
Regarding these two historical events:

9/11? "Didn't connect the dots..."
WMDs? Bad intelligence ("Didn't connect the dots...")

But:
On Tuesday, CBS News reported that Chalabi recently told an Iranian intelligence official that the U.S. had cracked the codes, allowing the U.S. to read communications on everything from Iran's sponsorship of terrorists to its covert operations inside Iraq.

Sounds like good ol' crack, stellar intelligence operations to me, along the lines of what the British did during WWII with Germany's Enigma Machine...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwtwo/enigma_01.shtml

Makes the Bush argument that certain messages sent by Al Qaeda that alluded to the 9/11 attacks and intercepted by the US, were delayed in translating and therefore worthless, even more difficult to believe:

Messages from members of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network included the phrases "Tomorrow is zero hour" and "The match begins tomorrow," which government sources have said were picked up on Sept. 10 by National Security Agency eavesdropping on global communications.

Those two messages were not translated from Arabic until Sept. 12. Critics have called them examples of missed clues.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:cfVxpt8V4JsJ:www.unansweredquestions.org/timeline/2002/reuters090902.html+al+qaeda+messages+9/11+attacks+translated&hl=en


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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:08 PM
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13. AAR - Morning Sedition had a great piece on it in the Addict Corner
With Marc Maron advising his sponsee W to lay off the bottle.
Unfiltered had another funny skit with non- secrets that the drunk may have spilled (the ending of the Sopranos, Al Gore is an interesting guy, etc)
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:10 PM
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15. Just keep it comin'! Not convince yet, America??
That you have a drunk lunatic moron in charge??

:wtf:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:14 PM
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16. I have reports...
from somebody who was invited to a dinner with cabinet members and Bush that Bush was drinking like a fish. Whiskey. Now, this person is not always the most reliable source, but in this case I believe her.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:22 PM
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18. He must be. He's a weakling who's the most hated person on the
Edited on Wed Jun-02-04 07:22 PM by ElementaryPenguin
Planet - and most hated American in history! He can't possibly cope with this shit - and they can't keep him completely secluded! PLUS - he IS an alcoholic!!!
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:35 PM
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19. relax. It was probably just Bob Novak n/t
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:40 PM
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20. my guess is it was
Richard Perle, he likes to go out to fancy restaurants and in general lead the high life or so i have read in vanity fair. I don't see Wolfowitz as a drinker, except for blood maybe.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 08:44 PM
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26. or Asscroft. Can't forget the Calico Kid
recently released from hospital for "acute pancreatitis" (hic)
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mithnanthy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 09:42 PM
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28. Does Lawrence Eagleburger...
have access to Chalabi? He always looks drunk as a skunk whenever they prop him up for his opinion.He's my second guess, then Novakula. Shrub is my first choice for a jabbering drunk.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 09:51 PM
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29. That's who I was thinkin ??
Then Novak....or Richard Clarke? Rochard Perle? I don't think it was the Chimp...because he would never be permitted to be alone with such a con artist....
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 11:49 PM
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31. Now I know who he looks like ..The blood comment reminded me
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 07:44 PM
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21. This is all very stupid. Can people who are supposed to lead be this
stupid? Including Chalabi? I don't think so, so I'm not believing it for the time being.

What we have been asked to believe in the last 3 1/2 years is so amazingly transparent and bizarre - it is out of this world in incredulity.

From aresenic is good for you to didn't steal the election to this and Halliburton and California and no one spilled the beans on Plame.

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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 08:39 PM
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25. Bush couldn't remember the codes sober let alone drunk
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 08:58 PM
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27. I've been thinking the same thing all day!
Edited on Wed Jun-02-04 08:58 PM by saywhat
But I doubt he'd know enough to blab anything. It's all he can do to get through reading those teleprompters.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 11:41 PM
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30. Even if it's NOT, Chalabi might say it WAS..
He's got to be very pissed at * now..:) He went from 300K a month and getting to sity with Mrs *, to the woodshed now ...He might as well SAY it was * ...in a drunken stupor..
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