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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:07 PM
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Another resignation coming down at CIA --
George Pabbet(sp?)

Just announced on CNN.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:08 PM
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1. so...who is
George Pabbet?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:08 PM
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2. Patience, Grasshopper
doing a search now :D
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:12 PM
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4. Yes master.....
I will learn patience.....patience is a virtue to Shau-Lin Warriors.......
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:09 PM
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3. Shit, this IS a whitewash
Placing blame squarely upon the CIA so that nobody else (i.e. WH, DoD) takes the blame. Sickening.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:18 PM
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6. Well, would you expect any less?
This had Sherwin Williams written all over it. Bushes never take responsibility.
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FleshCartoon Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:18 PM
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5. Okay, now I'm wondering...
...if the spooks aren't resigning so they can let BushCo. have it now. I had thought Tenet was forced to resign, but now it's not so clear.

If the administration is doing this to them, it will backfire. That I'm certain of.

Oh hell, I suspect Bush is coming down anyway. Wonder what Poppy thinks of all this, the CIA being his old stomping ground.

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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:24 PM
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7. I suspect Tenet was fired
Bush himself made the announcement; not Tenet.

Tenet himself probably didn't know until he heard it on the news.

Usually a guy makes the ananouncement himself to make it seem plausible. If his Boss makes the announcement, it means he was tossed out on his ear...
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:26 PM
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8. Oh yeah. That's what we've been longing for:
...The resignation of Pabbet. That'll solve everything. Free and clear sailing from here on out, friends, because Pabbet (or whateverthafuck his name is) is gone.

Hip-hip-hooray!!
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:27 PM
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9. Here ya go, from LBN
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:28 PM
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10. I think it's 'James Pavitt'
Deputy Director of Operations at CIA, ie., chief spy wrangler. Valerie Plame's boss, I believe.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:30 PM
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11. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Edited on Thu Jun-03-04 05:31 PM by CatWoman
thanks!!!

:D

I'm an old woman-- I don't hear too good :D
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 06:03 PM
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12. Here's a juicy bit ...
Two vignettes from the pre-inauguration period are particularly telling. In early January 2001, Woodward writes, Cheney "passed a message to the outgoing secretary of defense, William S. Cohen, a moderate Republican who served in the Democratic Clinton administration.

"'We really need to get the president-elect briefed up on some things,' Cheney said, adding that he wanted a serious 'discussion about Iraq and different options.' The president-elect should not be given the routine, canned round-the-world tour normally given incoming presidents. Topic A should be Iraq."

A few days later, Bush, Cheney and Condoleezza Rice, who was to be Bush's national security adviser, were secretly briefed by CIA director George Tenet and his operations deputy, James Pavitt. They told the incoming president and his two closest security advisers that there were three major threats to national security. One was Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida terrorist network, based in Afghanistan. The other threats, Tenet and Pavitt said, were the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, though they conspicuously failed to mention Iraq in that context, and the military rise of China, "but that problem was five to 15 or more years away."
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 06:09 PM
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13. I wonder how this is linked to the Valerie Plame thing
Edited on Thu Jun-03-04 06:09 PM by thebigidea
An amusing scenario would be: Tenet found out that Bush personally approved of the leak, so he and top CIA people resigned in protest. Rove & Bush, startled, call in a lawyer doubleplusquick, after threatening Tenet's family or something.

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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 06:11 PM
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14. And another
http://www.iht.com/articles/519637.html

WASHINGTON Even now, 30 months after the Sept. 11 attacks, America's clandestine intelligence service numbers fewer than 1,100 case officers posted overseas, fewer than the number of FBI agents assigned to the New York City field office alone, according to government officials. Since George Tenet took charge of the CIA seven years ago, rebuilding the service has been his top priority. This year alone, more newly minted case officers will graduate from a yearlong course at Camp Peary, in Virginia, than in any year since the Vietnam War. They are the products of aggressive and targeted new recruiting efforts aimed in particular at attracting more Arabic-language speakers and others capable of operating in the Middle East and South Asia.

But it will be another five years, Tenet and others have warned, before the rebuilding is complete and the United States has in place the network it needs adequately to confront a global threat posed by terrorist groups and hostile foreign governments. In an interview, James Pavitt, who as the CIA's deputy director for operations oversees the clandestine service, said he still needed 30 percent to 35 percent more people than those now in its ranks. "I need hundreds and hundreds, thousands," Pavitt said. At a time when the United States is fighting a war on terrorism and a war in Iraq, he said, "we are running hard to get the resources we need."

"The question is, should you require better before you get bigger?" said a senior congressional official, describing a question that he said had been prompted by inquiries now underway into intelligence failures involving Iraq and the Sept. 11 attacks. The size and scope of the clandestine service, whose case officers overseas recruit and supervise spies and work with foreign intelligence services, but rarely try to infiltrate foreign targets themselves, has always been among the government's most closely guarded secrets. But as the dimensions of the intelligence failures on Iraq and Sept. 11 have begun to come to light in recent months, so too has a new picture of American spying operations stretched thin through the 1990s and only now recovering.

In the interview, Pavitt said it would be wrong to regard the agency as risk-averse. But he also described as "unnecessary" the directive that was issued by Deutch, and rescinded under Tenet in 2002, after being relaxed immediately after the Sept. 11 attacks. Pavitt said the CIA was only now "turning around" what he called a mistaken perception among some officers that they were prohibited from dealing with criminals and other unsavory individuals. "I'm not going to succeed against terrorism unless I recruit terrorists," Pavitt said. "I'm not going to succeed in terms of the tough issues in this business unless I'm right in the middle of it."

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 06:15 PM
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15. The News Hour on PBS discussing this now.
eom
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 06:16 PM
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16. Pavitt is (was) D.O. Head spook.
Director of Operations.
This does not bode well for bushies*.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 06:27 PM
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17. Pavitt's 9/11 testimony.
Edited on Thu Jun-03-04 06:41 PM by stickdog
http://ctstudies.com/Document/911_Commission_Pavitt_Pistole_Testimony.html

He comes across as a guy who knows his ass is on the line and will say ANYTHING (read: any possible reiteration of the official "we tried, but those 19 guys just beat us, but we're all better now" official cover story) to cover it.
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