Rumsfeld on CNN: The war is going bad because of the MEDIA.

[VolcanoJen]

Rumsfeld just appeared on CNN, in an interview, and opined that this is the first war we've fought that exists in a 24-hour-news-bubble, as he put it.

He went on to say that we're celebrating the 60th anniversary of the Normandy Invasion this week, and he asked Americans to imagine conducting that invasion with today's media. He says the media would have been blaming Eisenhower, second-guessing him, and calling him back to Washington for congressional hearings. He was terribly annoyed while speaking, practically screaming.

Isn't it too cute the way this Administration keeps trying to compare their horrid Iraq war with WWII?

His final words: "When you want to do something good, someone out there in the 'attack machine' isn't going to like it. So you have two choices, you can go do nothing, or you can go do good and live with the fact that someone isn't going to like it."

Rumsfeld better be next after Tenet...

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

1. "RUN, RUN, THE MEDIA IS HERE!" Chris Rock -Bring The Pain

[displacedtexan]

22. AHA! The Great Nixon Mistake!

I never thought BushCo would be forced to attack their own media machine!

Chris Rock is brilliant, BTW!

[Catfight]

2. He should know all about the attack machine, the bush cronies

used it several times against anyone who spoke out against them. I despise this administration. They are so subversive with democracy. Everyone of them should already be out of my countries White House. They stink the place up.

[amber dog democrat]

3. His threadbare rants won't save him.

He's next !

[Gunit_Sangh]

4. but, but, but ....

24x7 news media just didn't spring up AFTER shrimp's war. It was around during the first gulf war and Kosovo. I don't remember hearing any blame of the media during those wars.

[TankLV]

37. And I don't remember any complaints with all those nifty logos and music

during the run-up to the "war" and the fabuluous sequel "shock and awwe".

It was simply disgusting the way every single network had it's multi-million dollar hollywood production REGULARLY SCHEDULED hype for bushco's illegal invasion.

But you didn't hear a peep from anyone - how could they when "100% of the country supported bunkerboy" they kept screaming! Someone must've overlooked ME!

And lastly, of course "the media" weren't supportive of the NAZI's during WWII - they had a brain then! He is terribly confused about which "role" the US is forced to play this time around. HINT: It sure as hell ain't the "allies"!

[kcwayne]

5. Congress gave the media jurisdiction to call congressional hearings?

That's news to me.

Hey Donald, you stupid fuck, the difference between Normandy and Baghdad is that the French DID greet us with flowers and cheers, and called us liberators, not occupiers.

[The Magistrate]

6. The Mental Process, Ma'am, Is Fascinating

If the people of the United States did not know how bad things are going, everything would be going well....

The enemy in Iraq, of course, would know how things stood, and the people of Iraq, being subject to the conditions of war in their country, would know, and the U.S. armed forces, actively fighting, would know as well.

But as long as the people of the United States are not well informed, everything would be golng fine....

"Desperate men do desperate things, and stupid men do stupid things. We are in for a desperately stupid summer."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[VolcanoJen]

16. Yes, indeed. Everything WOULD be going fine...

... for the evil invaders, and they would be able to cling to power, which is all that they desire.

Some days are more upsetting than others.

If the media weren't in Rome, would the President's visit be going well?


Italians welcome Bush to Rome!


Italians lay down at the feet of the American President!


Italian police attempt to control the excited Roman crowds!

[The Magistrate]

19. Judging By Those PIctures, My Friend

It would seem the visit is going very well indeed....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[redqueen]

7. I thought they wore out that lame claim during Vietnam.

If only the media would lie to the public, everything would be great over there!

These people are evil and they will say whatever they have to in order to manipulate the sheeple that drink their poison.

[Eurobabe]

8. Bu$hCo Motto = B.I.O.S.E.

Blame it on someone else!

[Vickers]

9. How can somebody who understands so fucking little about war...

...be the goddam SECRETARY OF DEFENSE?!?!?!?!

:wtf:

[SeveneightyWhoa]

10. Wow, imagine how pissed Rumsfeld would be if..

..the media actually DID their jobs?

Hell, Americans wouldn't even be in Iraq if the media had actually performed their duties.

When the media is consolidated into one company, I'm sure Rumsfeld will be urging his government to purchase it. Soviet-style, baby!

[CityZen-X]

11. There Is A WWII Comparison!

They (Bu$h*tCo) and Hitler both used first strike strategies!
And as far as the media goes, yes those cameras do have an ability to kill lies! And this is a so called war constructed by Faustian machinations supported by lies!

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. Does he mean the media

who has been kissing his/the administration's ass for the last 3 1/2 years????!!!! THAT media? Give me a damn break! I am SOOOOOOOOO sick of their whining. They have had nothing less than a FREE RIDE from the media and if the media is FINALLY doing it's JOB, it's about damn time! Shut up, Rummy!

[KansDem]

24. Yeah!!!

Just imagine how bad the "war" would be going if the media WASN'T fellating BushCo every hour of every day...

[Skip Intro]

13. And the real tragedy of the US torture of Iraqis was the pictures

I remember him saying that - he was dismayed at the fact that the pictures and video existed.

Every major player in this criminal regime turns my stomach when I see what they've done and are doing (and plan to do) to my country and the rest of the world, but there's something extra-revolting about this jerk.

"We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
(rumsfailed on the Iraqi WMD)

[Frances]

14. Rumsfeld forgets Pearl Harbor

The majority of the people in the U.S. were against our getting in World War II. Even though Roosevelt knew what was at stake, he did not go to war against the people's wishes as Bush did in Iraq. The U.S. only entered World War II after Pearl Harbor was so dramatically attacked.

[nixonwasbetterthanW]

15. his entire premise is bullshit

The FIRST Gulf War was conducted under nearly precisely the same 24-hour media intensity.

You didn't hear Cheney complaining then: LOTS of video success stories ... "there goes the luckiest man in Iraq" as the bridge is seen pulverizing from high above.

The difference is that we don't seem to be containing the threat this time around.

Rummy's Rules: cover the ones we win overwhelmingly, but cut us a break if we don't have a handle on things.

[VolcanoJen]

21. "the luckiest man in Iraq."

I wonder how that man is faring today? If at all...?

Excellent point, sniggles (as usual!!). :D

[killbotfactory]

17. If only this were nazi germany...

all his problems would be solved.

[prolesunited]

23. Yes, and Bush were dictator

How many times has he uttered that "hilarious" line?

[Justice]

18. Rumsfield Loved Daily Media Briefings when

we first invaded Iraq. Remember the sickening discussion about how clever and "hunky" he was?

He likes fawning media.

[Raven]

20. Can you imagine being that man's spouse..or worse...

his kid? Imagine growing up under somebody whose opinion is the only right opinion? Who doesn't countinence disagreement? Very sad for anyone unlucky enough to be around him. BUT, he should be thanking God for George Tenent's resignation because it seems to me that as incompetent as the CIA is, it was the only agency worried about ElQ. It seems that I read somewhere that the CIA's concerns were dismissed by the DoD. Rummy should be worried because there are alot of people who think that Tenent was a decent guy...honest...meant well...I think the knives might be coming out for the guy who really should be paying for 911 (assuming we can't get Bush, that is).

[underpants]

25. Remember the Freep thread about how we could win Vietnam w/ Fox news?

Seriously, several months ago (a year?) they had a discussion about how if Fox News had been around back then we would have WON the Vietnam War. I'm not kidding.

[Bandit]

44. IMHO we did win

We got our troops home and the Vietnamese people are doing well and actually like us (one of the very few countries that do)and want us to visit with them and do business. To me that is a win. Compare it to Korea. We are still on the verge with that country. The country is divided and contentious and unhappy with Americans.

[bluedog]

26. IMO

If the media did its JOB in the first place we would NOT be in Iraq and over 800 men and women would be alive also thousands of Iraqis.......If they did their JOB.this administration would have been ousted after 9-11!!!

[Career Prole]

27. "So you have two choices,

you can go do nothing, or you can go do good and live with the fact that someone isn't going to like it." --D. Rumsfeld

Make that three choices Rummy...because you've proven that you can also do evil on top of merely bad, stacked up on incompetent and have it all ignored by the compliant media...you buttwad.

[bluestateguy]

28. If they want it to be World War II then get serious

No tax cuts for the rich. Raise them, through the roof.

Bring back the draft, with no exceptions for anyone.

Ration food, gasoline, tin, aluminum, rubber and steel.

Demand that all factories making consumer goods shut down operations and convert into defense plants.

Demand that the media quit it with the show trial stories of Michael, Mark, Martha and Kobe.

Otherwise I don't want to hear it.

[VolcanoJen]

29. bluestateguy, why aren't YOU interviewing Rumsfeld?

It was ridiculous, watching the grinning reporter, just oozing with awe and respect, nodding head while Rumsfeld spewed his lies and deceptions...

[bluestateguy]

31. They always tell us it's a "different" kind of war

But then they delight in comparisons with the Second World War.

[oly]

30. Cockroaches

Shine a little light on these cockroaches and it's CYA, shoot the messenger (media, Clark, O'Neil, Wilson), find an apple to declare rotten (Tenet), etc. Can they be any more transparent? Who the hell do they fool? Unfortunately many.

[VolcanoJen]

32. Welcome to DU, oly!

:bounce: :toast: :bounce: :toast: :bounce: :toast: :bounce: :toast: :bounce:

DU Welcomes You!

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[newyawker99]

45. Hi oly!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[PROGRESSIVE1]

33. Rumsfeld, not Tenet should have resigned!!!!

Rummy didn't mind it when we had daily briefing during the war last March!!! So don't mind them now!!!

:argh:

S.O.B!!!

[tjwash]

34. Fucker can't blame the clenis on this royal screwup....

....so try and blame someone else. Oh, and by the way rummy, Vietnam, and DS1 were both in you're "24 hour newsbubble".

And my wife wonders why I can not watch the news without yelling at the tv.

[VolcanoJen]

38. I can't watch the news without screaming at my TV, either, tjwash.

Good thing I've got DU to fall back on... I can just come here and scream, and then I find hundreds of others screaming, right along with me.

I love America,
JenJen :-)

[dave29]

35. GOD DAMNED CHECKS AND BALANCES!!!

Get a grip, Rummy

[xultar]

36. WTF Rummy which is it, the Media or Digital Cameras? Make up ur

effin satan ass mind.

[robbedvoter]

39. Didn't W blame the media for its war drumbeat? F*ed up the economy?

In meetings with top aides and administration officials, the President goes from quoting the Bible in one breath to obscene tantrums against the media, Democrats and others that he classifies as “enemies of the state.”
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/printer_4636.shtml

[Zorra]

40. Well, Donny boy, this is what happens when you repeatedly lie

to the entire world. You get caught and every one of your sneaky, dishonest, corrupt little schemes gets put under a microscope.

Too bad for you that the media caught you lying about WMD and found out that you knew Iraqis were being tortured and did nothing about it. Gosh, if no one found out, the tortures would still be going on.

Here's a clue for you: Most of us are not sociopathic and do not consider lying, cheating, stealing, torturing and killing good things.
Most of us want to prevent you from doing these things. Your whole concept of covert governing is corrupt, immoral and undemocratic.

You did some really shitty things and you got caught. We're on to you, and so is the media.

You and your neocon buddies should resign immediately before you are further disgraced.

The whole world is watching.

Rumsfeld knew about the torture of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib. So did the US governor in Iraq, Paul Bremer. Even the British Ministry of Defence knew. Can we really believe that Bush and Blair didn’t?
By Diplomatic Editor Trevor Royle and Westminster Editor James Cusick

It was a desperate attempt to shield his boss from the devastating fallout from the abuses at the Abu Ghraib prison. “Let me be clear,” defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Friday. “I failed to recognise how important it was to elevate a matter of such gravity to the highest levels, including the President and the members of Congress.
“I wish we had known more sooner and been able to tell you more sooner, but we didn’t.”

But the question of who knew what – and when – is far more complicated and potentially far more damaging than Rumsfeld’s version of events suggests.

http://www.sundayherald.com/41905

[spanone]

41. so we should trust this guy? this egomaniac with an army?

Fuckyourself mr. humsfield.

[DoYouEverWonder]

42. He sure loved the media

when he was waking them up at 3:00 AM Gulf time, to announce that Jessica Lynch had been rescued.

[oasis]

43. WWII comparison: Rummy in the role of Josef Geobbels.

[ElementaryPenguin]

46. Well...the war is on because of the media (acting as corporate whores!!)

Imagine that! THESE fuckers bitching about the media!

:puke:
:spank: