Newsrooms got the heads up....

[blm]

Ronald Reagan is close to death.

Please handle this news humanely and responsibly. It's what should set us apart from the vileness of the right.

[greatauntoftriplets]

1. Link, please?

n/t

[blm]

4. No link.

As I've mentioned before, my spouse works in a newsroom. They are prepared.

[greatauntoftriplets]

5. You didn't say your husband worked in a newsroom in this thread.

I have worked for two Chicago newspapers. They are always prepared.

[blm]

10. Sorry...

I've mentioned it a few times before, and I thought most knew by now. I explained when I gave the heads up on Strom a while back.

[buycitgo]

12. if you're still in Chicago, Joe Wilson's going to

be at the Printer's Row Bookfair tomorrow at 2:30

[greatauntoftriplets]

15. Still here.

WAAAYY to much to do over the weekend. Damn yard work.

Thanks for the heads up, though.

[soothsayer]

2. That's good advice (n/t)

[Taverner]

3. Agreed

But at the same time I really will get nauseous if I hear about how "great of a man he was."

Fact: he wasn't

He was the grandfather of neoconism. Never forget that.

[aquart]

9. He had Alzheimer's while President.

Made the Republicans think Bush could do the job.

[buycitgo]

respectfully.......my dad died of Alzheimer's.......

translation: he's being thawed out?

[buycitgo]

6. before anybody corrects.......

you don't die from Alzheimer's.....it's always something else

[Warpy]

36. Right, most Alzheimer's patients stop eating

when they've had enough. Since Reagan has lasted this long, I think the family may have had him on tube feedings for a while.

As central functions follow the higher functions, they start to lose their gag, cough and swallow. Most die from dehydration from refusing food and liquid before that has a chance to happen.

It's cruel to keep them alive with heroic measures.

[Cleita]

61. I have thought this all along. It's better to let A patients go on

their own terms with comfort and hospice care. Keeping them artificially alive is cruel. However, I hope I am not being thought of as being insensitive if I say that we speculated way back when, that Ronnie's death would be the distraction that the neo-cons would need to stay in power very close to the time of an election.

[KharmaTrain]

102. Been There...My Mother Had Altzheimers

It was just one of several illnesses she suffered in her last years...she also had Parkinsons that hid the Altzheimers until it was just too obvious.

It's a frustrating illness as you see a vibrant loved one turn into a shell of their former selves...a prisoner in their own bodies...at first unable to remember, then to walk, then talk, then eat and so on. It's a very hard, long road and despite my past intense hatred of Nancy Raygun, I admire her strength in dealing with this situation...especially at her age. I'm certain my mother's illness led to my father's death as he gave up when she went bad.

Yes, there is the "give up" on eating, but it's not a voluntary thing and one of the most dreadful elements of this disease. My mother lost appetite but even in the few times she did, she couldn't chew nor digest...thus tube feeding kept her going for 3 years and allowed her to enjoy food every now and then as opposed to force feeding. Damn the memories are flowing back.

In the end, we stopped the feeding, as she started to react to even that...and it was kept going under the concept of maintaining a quality of life for her. Once that was gone, the hardest decision I had to make in my life was to OK pulling the tube...even more than signing a DNR (Do No Resecitate) or any business deal I've done. She still lingered for over a week...as she didn't move, she lived off the fat in her body, and then finally, peacefully slipped away.

I was expecting this end quite some time ago for Mr. Reagan, and sadly it appears the time is here. May his family find peace and inner strength and remember the good times. I feel specifically for Ron Jr. who've I've grown to respect over the years. It's a far different family than the Bush scum.

[mitchtv]

7. Bush will want to use this

depends a lot on how angry Nancy is about stem cell research. Ask Ollie North if she can be dangerous.

[Sparkly]

11. Hey, GMTA

:hi:

[Skip Intro]

27. bush's attempts will make him look even smaller to the right

bush can't even fill his own shoes, much less those of right wing legend.

If bush does anything more than pay low-key respects, he will increase his loss of stature within his own party.

[hlthe2b]

51. yes.. videos of the Gippers speeches, contrasting with Bush*

inane attempts to speak--will not be a helpful reminder.
The most he'll get out of it is a front row seat at the state funeral and (if nancy has her way) not much of a role, otherwise.

[nostamj]

42. Nancy HATES the bushies

she won't let them use Ronnie to advance themselves. period.

[salin]

105. That won't stop him from trying

and a small spat with follow, as you say, Nancy loathes the bushes... but bush, classless and deaf man that he is, will continue to try to make parallels to capitalize on the sympathy.

[mountainvue]

111. There's no way

in hell Nancy Reagan would ever allow it. They'd do it without her consent in a heartbeat though.

[Sparkly]

8. My understanding is that Nancy Reagan is not fond of the Bushies

and particularly the Chimp because of his stance on stem cell research.

I don't think he'll get away with exploiting it.

And you're right -- we shouldn't sink to the level we've come to expect from the right.

[Wapsie B]

20. That's right. She isn't fond of the BFEE,

for more than just the stem cell issue. It's been speculated here that Poppy may have had a hand in the attempt on Ronnie's life.

[Longhorn79]

86. That's retarded

[AntiCoup2K4]

90. Like Hell it is

Hinkley was the son of one of Poppy Bush's business partners.

Just like Osama Bin Laden.

[charlie]

93. Neil

had a dinner date with Hinkley's brother that same night. Had to cancel, of course. Wouldn't be prudent.

[anarchy1999]

101. At 59 posts it is not a wise idea to come in and say "that's retarded"....

Just not a smart thing to do. At All.

And for your info, neither Ronnie or Nancy liked the Bush family. The vice-presidency of Bush was a last minute back-room deal forced upon them.

Do not have a specific link, but it is there if you want to find it.

Now, be careful and do your homework before you decide you want to tell anyone else they are retarded.

[Longhorn79]

110. I've read all the stories, thanks

Just do all democrats a favor and don't repeat that BS to anybody when Reagan does die. You'll just cost us votes.

[TheWebHead]

106. Bushy Knoll Conspiracy

http://www.parascope.com/mx/articles/bushyknoll.htm

[aquart]

25. Deserved or not, Reagan was honored and loved.

The grief people feel will be genuine, and that doesn't deserve to be mocked.

And, frankly, a sick, mindless, old man is not anybody's worthy target.

[Raster]

33. Reagan was honored and loved, not by me, however....

...as a Gay man who has lost just about 80% of friends and peers, I will never forget his unconscionable attitude towards AIDS and its victims.

I also was never swayed by his political acumen, of which there was little.

But you are right, compassion for those without compassion is what differentiates us.

I don't grieve for Reagan, however, my sincerest sympathies to his family.

And finally, I may not have a fond opinion of the man as President, but he was legally and lawfully elected. He did not subvert the will of the people.

[maggrwaggr]

41. It's part of the RW manufactured MYTH of Reagan that he was LOVED

It's complete and total BULLSHIT

[Raster]

104. it's a meme, and proven so effective, and so simple...

...the great communicator

...it's a new day in america

[AntiCoup2K4]

92. Reagan's election was legal

...but you certainly can't say it wasn't the result of foul play (hence the phrase "October Surprise" )

[maggrwaggr]

100. HA! Exactly! It all started prior to the election, same as Shrub

There are too many parallels for my comfort.

It seems as if Bushco studied everything Ronnie got away with, and decided to do it again, only ten times more criminal, ten times more dangerous, ten times more violent, and ten times more brazen.

And what do the two administrations have in common in a rather huge and alarming way?

George Bush Sr.

[Hippo_Tron]

95. Dupe

n/t

[maggrwaggr]

38. Reagan was NOT honored and loved. I despised him and so did

millions of others.

Prior to Bush, Reagan's presidency was the most corrupt anybody could remember.

Reagan was an idiot, an imbecile who could read a teleprompter, but who, when he had to actually answer questions on his own, came across as a complete, uninformed dolt. This is why, prior to Bush, he had fewer press conferences than any other president.

Does anyone actually remember one of those press conferences? You think BUSH is bad? He was as bad, or worse.

The man was a fool, dressed up to look like a president.

Even my fundie, right-wing father said he was merely a puppet.

[Virginian]

82. He had a good mind for

He had a good mind for memorizing movie scripts. Some of them stuck with him for a very long time.
Once I saw a segment in a TV program with him giving a few lines in his speaches, then they showed him saying the exact same words -- in his movies. The TV spot went back and forth several times. Speaches, movies, speaches, movies.
He did a good job of playing the part of a president. He even convinced several people that he was being the president. But, he had his back room running the show just like Dubya does.

[niceypoo]

99. Ronnie Wrecked America

I hope Satan takes a likin' to him and lets him off easy

[seabeyond]

13. there will be a good week i wont be watching news

goodie, i can get some things done around the house

[AlCzervik]

14. Sad news

[Skip Intro]

16. Yes, tactful and respectful.

[VolcanoJen]

17. Interesting, and thanks for sharing the news with us, blm.

Thank you.

[Fleshdancer]

18. May he go in peace and without pain

I wouldn't wish his illness on my worst of enemies.

[KC]

109. I

feel the same way Gloria.

It's OK to dislike the man for his politics, but I would never wish this dreadful disease on anyone and never wish it on the families who have to take care of them and see their loved one waste away to
nothing but a shell.

KC

[oldleftguy]

19. Hard to feel pity...

...for someone I could never respect.

[KittyWampus]

21. Better Now Than October

and that's all I'm going to say about that.

[mitchtv]

47. Well you can say it again,

They'll have to compete with Big Dawg's book!

[RamboLiberal]

53. cryingshame I was thinking the same thing

Glad I got a heads up on this. I think next to * Reagan is the most overrated President in history.

But I wouldn't wish this illness on anyone and may he pass without pain.

My sympathies to his family, especially to young Ron Reagan who I think is a very decent man. I enjoy seeing him on Hardball. I hope someday he gets a show of his own.

[homelandpunk]

69. Neh...Poppy is planning on offing old hag Babs for the sympathy vote for

their spawn. It will be a very William Casey kinda death. Use CIA placed doctors to "diagnose" and then "did all they could" for her.

Oh yeah, btw?.... I'm serious.

[anti_shrub]

22. I always felt kinda bad for Ronald

He always struck me as a guy who really thought he was doing good, but was guided by evil men.

I'm sure he was no innocent lamb, but I think history will end up reflecting that he probably didn't know the lengths Daddy Bush and Ollie were going in the basement.

At least he could give a speech to the nation coherently, unlike the current occupant of 1600.

[Quahog]

67. Reagan at least had some ideals

He is a misguided man, and I have deep fundamental disagreements with much of what he believes, but at the very least, I have to acknowledge that they guy has principles. He knew what he believed, and because he harbored the beliefs that he did regarding the US's place in the world (commie crusher), he was easily manipulated by people smarter than he. But at least he made his decisions based on some moral precepts that he had adopted.

This, to me, puts him head and shoulders above any bush*. That family is simply amoral. They feign morals in order to dupe their target constituency, but these people believe in NOTHING beyond financial profit. It's ALL money, everything else is just a ruse. I don't think that could be fairly said about Reagan.

I hope his passing is peaceful and painless. Of course, I'm a bleeding heart liberal Christian, so I will eventually pray for the same for W. I hope I get big props in heaven for that!

O8)

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

23. I won't deny it.

I won't miss him. He was the prototype of the puppet President that brought us Chimp.

Uncategorically, he was bad for America.

[Norquist Nemesis]

66. You said it.

I feel the same way. While I feel sympathy for any grief and sorrow felt by the family, it's going to be at least a week's vacation from TV and radio for me.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

73. A week?

Can't you feel a new movement building? It'll be:

Ronald H. Reagan.


Oy.

[scarface2004]

24. bush is very excited...

gets to go look all somber and serious and pray and all that shit at the funeral!!!

[blm]

28. Methinks Ron Reagan Jr. won't stand for some of Bush's antics

or his attempts to use it.

The death of his father could free him up even more to speak out against the wrongness of BushInc.

[Raster]

40. I am hoping that Ron Jr. is waiting for the proper time to let loose....

I like Ron Jr. Smart, funny and pretty well centered. As I said in a previous post, my sympathies to the family.

And I hope Ron Jr. and Nancy let the bushes have it with both barrels. The bushes treated the Reagans like crap. It's time for comeuppance.

[playahata1]

108. I WILL say this:

If what people say about Nancy and Ron, Jr. are true, then the Reagans do have a lot more class than the Kenneburkport Carpetbaggers.

[Fleshdancer]

30. It's going to be weird to see W at a funeral for a change. n/t

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

32. Ain't that the truth.

[Zookeeper]

31. Isn't that the truth!

I would very much like Nancy Reagan to be even more aggressive in speaking out on the stem cell research issue (I have an 11 year old with insulin dependent diabetes). And deep in my heart I hold a hope that she might, at least, clearly NOT support Bush this year because of the issue. For that reason, I will say nothing negative on DU about her husband.

[RoyGBiv]

44. It's going to be weird, though...

He'll have to share that stage somewhat with Clinton and Carter if previous traditions hold true.

[mike1963]

26. So he's actually mortal like the rest of us?

Amazing. :grr:

[UrbScotty]

29. This is what happened just before Strom Thurmond died.

They were put on "Strom Watch" that Tuesday (the 24th, I believe), and he died that Thursday.

Ronald Reagan, despite my qualms with his policies, had a good personality.

[blm]

35. Yes.

It turned into a long week for South Carolina newsrooms.

[seabeyond]

34. the man is old, he had a long and good life

has been in this illness long enough. i think it is more sad the longer he holds on. sometimes it is just more humane for a person to just be able to go.

[BeFree]

37. Understood why some liked the man

He had a certain air about him.

But his policies were wrong for America and history will prove that. Tell ya what, I don't think he'd be too fond of the smirk.

[Sparkly]

43. History's already proven that

in the size of the national debt, for one thing. But at least when his massive tax cuts for the wealthy were passed, he let the Senate actually debate before the vote, unlike the Chimp.

I think that instead of rallying Republican pride, this may prompt journalists to make comparisons and discuss how the party has changed, even since Reagan.

[BeFree]

56. Good points

Maybe the press will do comparisons of how the two operated. 'Course while it won't help smirk any, it won't do much for Reagan's image either.

I sure do remember how everyone breathed a sigh of relief when he, raygun, finally left office. But the comparison to the day smirk leaves will make RR's departure seem like it was nothing.

[T Bone]

88. Comparisons of Dutch and Jr* chopping down brush on their ranches ?

It would make for thrilling side-by-side video, doncha think? Peggy Noonan could voice-over during the video presentation and work herself into an orgasmic slather.

[Jade Fox]

62. He had a certain air about him? Its called acting.....

His jovial nature came under the catagory of ignorance is bliss.
He was an empty suit who played a President well on TV.

[homelandpunk]

71. Ron Reagan Jr. is adamant his dad would never be this dark and

malevolent and destructive of this country had 9/11 happened on his watch. Bush is another animal. Reagan had human qualities. I think.

[cally]

39. Well, it's a good week for it to happen

and yes, that's the best I can do as far as a respectful post. I'm sorry for those who love him, but most of us knew his death was near. I don't want any event to help *.

[Newsjock]

45. Skeptical voice from inside a rather large newsroom

I suspect there might be less to this report than we're making of it.

Newsrooms typically prepare obituaries, special reports, or what-have-you for particularly well-known figures, and they do so well in advance. If you're at a midsized newspaper (as I was till earlier this year), you typically get these packages from one or more news services, such as Gannett, the L.A. Times/Washington Post, Knight Ridder, or many others.

The "tribute page" to Ronald Reagan has been available for nearly a year now. In fact, it was my job at my previous newspaper to have the Reagan package all downloaded, formatted, edited, paginated, and ready to run in the paper on very short notice -- at any time, not just because he was "near death." A similar package for the pope is out there, and I also had the full-page retrospective on the pope in the can and ready to go the moment he kicks the bucket.

Now, fast forward to today. I'm at a significantly larger daily newspaper now in a significantly larger city. (No, I'm still not telling, for all the reasons I'm sure you understand.) This large newsroom has not received any special alert that the Gipper is any nearer to death than he was yesterday or the day before.

Perhaps someone at some newspaper somewhere has a special "in" with Nancy and company, and perhaps I'm completely wrong on this. (Wouldn't be the first time.) But I suspect that the snippet of truth behind all this is that one or more of the news services has transmitted a Reagan tribute package.

But that just means the newsrooms are preparing for the inevitable, because it will happen someday.

[VolcanoJen]

57. Thanks for your insights, Newsjock!

It's definitely common for newsrooms to have obits-on-the-fly for any national figure, and at the local level that extends to sports, entertainment and political figures with a big local connection.

Interesting tips, and I'll definitely be watching the wires over the weekend regardless... :-)

[Andromeda]

94. Not surprised -- but tell me,

Do they have a story and headline ready to go for the Presidential election?

KERRY WINS BY A LANDSLIDE!

[blm]

107. Check your inbox.

It was more than the standard preparation.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

46. At Least He Had Some Class About Him - Unlike Bush

I truly disliked Reagan's policies, beginning with his gutting of parts of the U.C. University system while governor in California. But the man carried himself well and wasn't an embarrassment. He wasn't a tower of intellect but he could at least communicate with all levels of society and even with foreign leaders without generating entire books worth of "Reaganisms". I disliked his ideas, but I wasn't on the 24-hour a day vigil for this country and the preservation of its values as I now am with the Macaque who resides on Pennsylvania Avenue.

[Mikimouse]

48. It would be interesting if Nancy and Ron, Jr., told smirky

not to bother attending the funeral.

[charlie]

49. Pfft

I'm not gonna walk on eggshells because that soulless prick is meeting his inevitable end. And I'm decidedly gonna have the shits during the whoring media's encomiums for the Greatest President in the History of the Republic. Get ready for a season of bunting and fireworks, somber retrospectives, and a geyser of phony tears, all for a narcoleptic boob who wasn't fit to sit in the office.

[Geo55]

54. I never cared for the man

But I believe his next gig will be a real wake-up call

[BillZBubb]

50. I won't shed any tears when Reagan croaks.

Reagan was an evil man. His only concern was for the wealthy. Everyone else was just a peon. He spawned the neo-con menace that infects us today. Reagan's debt binge will continue to harm the country for a hundred years. He also was the prototype of the ignoramus as president that Bush* has followed up on.

[catzies]

52. And California just approved a fall ballot measure on stem cells

Irony doesn't take a day off.

My sympathies to the members of the Reagan family as they endure their time of loss.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

55. Reagan blasts Bush (Ron Reagan, Jr.)

http://democrats.com/view.cfm?id=13544

<snip>

Reagan blasts Bush

"My father crapped bigger ones than George Bush," says the former president's son, in a flame-throwing conversation about the war and the Bush administration's efforts to lay claim to the Reagan legacy.

- - - - - - - - - - - -

By David Talbot

April 14, 2003 | The Bush inner circle would like to think of George W.'s presidency as more of an extension of Ronald Reagan's than of his one-term father's. Reagan himself, who has long suffered from Alzheimer's disease, is unable to comment on those who lay claim to his political legacy. But his son, Ron Jr., is -- and he's not pleased with the association.

"The Bush people have no right to speak for my father, particularly because of the position he's in now," he said during a recent interview with Salon. "Yes, some of the current policies are an extension of the '80s. But the overall thrust of this administration is not my father's -- these people are overly reaching, overly aggressive, overly secretive, and just plain corrupt. I don't trust these people."

Reagan spoke with Salon from his home in Seattle, where he lives with his wife, Doria, a psychologist. A former ballet dancer ("At 45, I'm afraid those days are over"), he has worked in recent years as a magazine journalist and a TV personality, currently hosting dog shows for the Animal Planet network ("I live 'Best in Show'"). He and Doria have three cats, but no children ("They're like kids, without the tuition"). Though he never followed his father into politics, Reagan takes a strong interest in public issues, serving on the board of the Creative Coalition, an organization founded in 1989 by performers like Susan Sarandon and Christopher Reeve to politically mobilize entertainers and artists. Reagan recently moderated a Creative Coalition panel discussion in San Francisco on the topic of free expression during wartime, featuring Alec Baldwin on the left and Michael Medved on the right (and a smoldering Sean Penn in the audience).

Reagan, still as lean as he was in his dancing days, has a sharp tongue -- but like his father, he has a knack for softening his barbs with a charming affability and disarming sense of humor.

<snip>

[dsc]

68. damn guess he really wasn't gay

I hadn't heard he got married. I was never completely sure if he was or wasn't. He always impressed me as someone who really was a liberal though.

[MikeG]

58. Ronald Reagan is a good man - easily a better man than W or Poppy.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

59. Indeed. A free-thinker. Sounds like he's an Independent.

Geez, do you think he'd be voting Nader?

[Skittles]

80. that's not saying much

99.8% of the world is better than those two assholes.

[mike_c]

60. I have a rather short list of graves that I hope to piss on...

...and Ronald Ray-gun appears to be moving closer to getting checked off my list. I won't whoop and holler and use lots of bouncies when he dies, but I won't mourn him either. Reagan was repig #1 for eight years and his greatest legacies were a crackpot economic theory that tried to justify robbing the poor as being ultimately good for them-- sardonically named for the old coot-- the "martyrdom" of Olliver North, and GHWB the elder. I despised him when he was president, and I haven't yet heard anything to change my mind.

[DaveSZ]

64. .

http://www.insanereagan.com/

[mike_c]

70. lol....

That's great. I hope they send representatives to the funeral.

[seabeyond]

72. let them eat ketchup

wink

[MikeG]

63. From the Drudge Report: "He really took a downslide today."

www.drudgereport.com

Hollywood sources tell LA Weekly columnist Nikki Finke that former President Ronald Reagan's medical condition has suddenly worsened. "He really took a downslide today," the insider told Finke Friday evening. "Doctors are at the house. Things aren't good." At the start of the day, several news organizations chased down a rumor that the ex-president had died, but it wasn't true...

[catzies]

65. Yup. LBN link already up on it too.

n/t

[LandOLincoln]

74. And remember, the Reagans HATE the Bushes. n/t

[BigMcLargehuge]

75. this is about as humane as I get with Reagan...

good riddance

[Democat]

76. Remember how the right treated Wellstone when he died

They trashed him and his loved ones.

[maggrwaggr]

78. yeah, let's see the RW NOT turn a Reagan memorial into a political rally

they will find it impossible.

It will be a disgusting display of right wing hypocrisy.

[Hippo_Tron]

97. Didn't Mondale try that and loose? n/t

[VolcanoJen]

77. LBN thread... Drudge has it (please read LBN story, don't click Drudge!)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=603890&mesg_id=603890&page=

[Skittles]

79. I won't be shedding any tears

the age of greed really grew during the Reagan administration; I thought he was despicable.

[kskiska]

81. He was a rotten father. Read Michael Reagan's book.

"On the Outside Looking In"

From living a childhood that included such traumatic experiences as: being ridiculed for being adopted, being brutally molested by a camp councellor, having his parents divorce,and being constantly switched to different boarding schools,Michael grew up feeling very low about himself, and contemplated suicide on several occasions. His young adulthood was marred by consusion and self destructive behavior. While in his twenties Michael racked up staggering debt, had a failed marriage, and was dogged by a failure to hold down a steady job. While the young Michael was not extemly proud of his irresponsible lifestyle he had no great desire to reform himself because his parents, namely his mother (Jane Wyman), would always bail him out.…

[kiahzero]

83. May his passing be swift and painless

and may his next life not cause so much harm to so many.

[Kool Kitty]

84. Very well put, kiahzero.

My sympathies are with his family. (My Mother had Alzheimer's and it was wrenching.)

[whirlygigspin]

87. Larry King's buying new suspenders as we speak

I can only hope Ann Coulter throws herself into his grave in hommage.

[kentuck]

85. I do not wish to sow a lot of bad karma...

There's enough already...too much to clean up...

[Jim Warren]

89. He had one thing right

Bush is a wimp.

[Brian_Expat]

91. Hope he enjoys shoveling coal in hell. n/t

[Hippo_Tron]

96. My Views...

I won't say the guy was a great president, because he wasn't. I disagree with his political views and what he did in office. That said, I have to feel sorry for the guy. I don't think he was exactly aware of what was going on around him. Not to mention that the Reagans seem like very good people, I definately feel sorry for them. If Asscroft, Whoreowitz, DeLay, Rove, or Chenney were about to kick the bucket I wouldn't feel sorry for any of them because they know what they did was evil.

[Cooley Hurd]

98. For the sake of his family, I hope he crosses over swiftly...

This brings me back to the longest and saddest night of my life - the night my mother passed away. A bit over five years ago. My brothers and sisters and I stood vigil at her bedside, taking turns holding her hand, watching each rise and fall of her chest and feeling your own throat tighten, listening to the long drawn-out "snore" - the death rattle...

Regardless of my feelings for the man or his family on a political level, I hope that he passes quickly...

[kispoko]

103. fuck that

the people he was responsible for killing and whom he caused to suffer never even got to die with some dignity like that scum.


that's not the difference between us, the difference is that we would never actively pursue the things which lead to such great suffering as ronnie did....

i'll personally have a good day and a cigar when the shit happens. and i will not allow right-wing self-righteousness to co-opt my anger about the injustices that will be forgotten as this man is eulogized.

[WillyT]

112. Damned Straight, Skippy !!!

Wouldn't want any of that Compassionate Liberalism, eh???

:shrug:

[Tight_rope]

113. Reagan was a Crackhead!...How much respect do crackheads get? n/t