CNN-Nader Blames Dems For Pie Attack

[DemocratSinceBirth]

I'm watching CNN and Wolf Blitzer just reported that Ralph Nader blamed the Democrats for the pie attack.

Let it go... Ralph....

[tjdee]

1. Of course he does.

That's his group of choice.

I guess no one has told him about the Cake brigade, or whatever it's called. Even if ONE Democrat paid them (or however it works), there's no reason for him to blame Dems in general.

Oh well, I guess we don't have his vote in 2004.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Truth Crushed To Earth Will Rise Again

The fact that he blamed the Dems for the pie attack demonstates who he thinks his enemies are.

[JVS]

29. Yeah, right

It couldn't be that many Democrats have spent the last 2.5 years demonizing him. All the Republicans I know just get so mad when Nader is mention. :eyes:

[shance]

58. Excellent! This is a very prideful moment for the Democratic party

I just wish Al Gore had been the one making the toss and the pie had been made by a hereford.


:)

[kysrsoze]

72. It should have been a plate of sh*t

much more fitting.

[corarose]

92. LOL

You took the words right out of my mouth. How about sending the jerk to the zoo and well maybe if we are lucky a monkey or baboon might toss poop in his face.

[Yavin4]

7. Dear Delusional Ralph

If it was the Democrats, it would not be a pie shoved in your face. It would be some other substance of a not so pleasant nature.

[ShaneGR]

74. I take responsibility, it was me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, I'm just kidding. Here's the point, if it was a Dem who did it then GOOD for them!!! BRAVO! Where's the celebration party? Can we start a pie brigade and follow his sorry ass around the country??

[chromotone]

13. "Oh well, I guess we don't have his vote in 2004."

To paraphrase James Baker:

"F*ck Ralph! He didn't vote for us!"

[kysrsoze]

71. Whoever did it....

deserves a medal. Fuck him.

[Robin Hood]

49. Ha Blames the dems for pie attack but takes no blame for bush in office.

Everytime I hear him, he sounds more and more like a republican. He inherited the pie in the face from the previous election.

Ralph?! You're a has been moron. Thanks for playing.

[displacedtexan]

2. poor ralph!

another man who could have been great but was not. squandered his pristine reputation as a protector of the people, didn't he?

[samsingh]

3. Nader should lay

off democrats

[cherryperry]

4. Maybe, but I also don't trust CNN:

where's their 2 sources or video of Nader actually saying that?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Wolf Blitzer

showed the clip and then said and I'm paraphrasing " Ralph Nader believes the Democrats are behind the attack because they feel threatened by Green candidacies."


Wow- I wonder if Terry McAullife ordered the hit.

[cherryperry]

57. Thanks - Nader is becoming senile! n/t

[sendero]

96. Laugh Out Loud :)

So, we feel threatened so we're gonna throw pies?

What a pathetic little Napoleon Nader is.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

5. Did he get a voter registration card? How does he know it wasn't a

Republican who KNEW it would get blamed on Dems...or better yet..a disruptor who doesn't even vote?

[Terwilliger]

31. the only people in this country who hate Ralph Nader are Democrats

you can spin this all you want, but the only folks who see Ralph Nader as deserving of a pie in the face are Democrats who can't seem to figure why they can't win elections on their own.

[sybylla]

45. Yea, but there is a difference between a dem throwing a pie

and Terry McAuliffe ordering a hit. "Dems" didn't do it, it was a lone pieman from over on the grassy knoll.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

50. True the Repubs would have baked him a cake...

[Terwilliger]

80. and Ralph would have complained about the fats and triglycerides

and Betty Crocker and corporate waste...your point?

[Old and In the Way]

54. Your right Terwilliger, as usual.

It had to be a Dem....the Republicans would be serving Ralph a big slice on a plate and pouring him his favorite beverage to wash it down. Heck, I'd bet Grover Norquist would serve Ralph his pie on some nice WH china....

[Terwilliger]

75. And when Freepers attack Bill Clinton, I have to say...

"oh yeah...ok...now I see it"

[Robin Hood]

61. Democrats hate him, and the republicans love him.

That says a lot, don't you think?

[Terwilliger]

78. Yes, it says that Democrats and Republicans are too interested

in their own duopoly to see the need for progressive qualities.

[Robin Hood]

86. Ehhhhh!!! wrong!!!

Democrats hate him because he helped throw the countries to the wolves.

Democrats see the need for progressive politics as is evident on tis board.

[Alexander]

76. Speaking of not being able to win elections....

Maybe you should look at how many Green officeholders there are in the country and then get back to us.

[Terwilliger]

79. 156 after 10 years

in 10 more, they'll own the joint

[lifelong_Dem]

89. Wow!!! 156!!!!!

In a nation that has hundreds of thousands of people that hold elected office... That's pretty darned impressive, all right. Looks like the Greens are going to become America's majority party any day now...

[John_H]

101. Hey these are big-time offices!!!!

Don't mess with Dan Tarr, elected to the mighty Valledeoro Planning Group. In ten more years they'll absolutely own the Portland Bridge Oversight Taskforce!!!!!!

[ForrestGump]

90. My sympathies are probably Green

But I'm also a pragmatist, and I'd rather have the proverbial 'lesser of two evils' than what we've been living with since the beginning of 2001.

I doubt I'd have given Darth Nader my Presidential vote, anyway, but I could definitely see myself voting for Greenies at local levels where they might actually have a chance to make a difference (a positive difference, c.f. the negative difference that old Ralphie ended up bringing to 2000's electoral table).

[CMT]

8. did it occur to Nader that it could have been a Republican

operative who is hoping that Nader will blame the Dems?

[goforit]

9. If it were a gun, he would have to blame a Repug.

Hello Nadar!!!!

I hope you get the message.

[Doomsayer13]

10. Yet another DNC/DLC conspircy, eh?

Here's something we haven't heard before - get over it

[quinnox]

11. Who cares

I didn't even know he got a pie in the face, this shouldn't be news.

[TacticalPeek]

34. Only because there was video...then it counts. n/t

[King_Crimson]

38. Nader is trying to qualify...

as the next Soupy Sales...only Soupy was more of a man about it and constantly took the pie straight on. The guy that threw this pie couldn't make it land dead center where it should have!

[Brian Sweat]

12. Who did it then?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. A Disgruntled Socialist

[IranianDemocrat]

23. Disgruntled Socialists are funny people.

I see a lot of them when I visit my friends at berkeley. They stand around corners and look like they haven't bathed in 10 years holding signs like "The Government Lied, Che Never Died!"

[WilliamPitt]

82. Is there another kind?

[Tom Kitten]

47. Maybe it was this guy....

[ForrestGump]

91. Wasn't me. I've got an alibi.

Besides, I wouldn't waste a perfectly good cream pie on anyone's face.

[VolcanoJen]

14. Where in hell are the photos of Nader getting pied??????

I need new desktop wallpaper,
Jennifer :-)

[John_H]

65. here you go!

[aquart]

70. He looks good that way.

Should get pied more often.

[Julien Sorel]

94. A nadir for Nadir, as it were.

[Democat]

15. Republicans wouldn't attack a good friend like Nader

Without Ralph, the Republicans would be crying about President Gore right now.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

16. wait a second--

---wasn't everyone here cheering this on a few moments ago?

now suddenly 'the democrats would never do such a thing. the nerve of that ralph!'

c'mon, who else is going to attack him with a pie other than some disillusioned party hack that still blames him for gore's failure?

[Doomsayer13]

20. It's not that a Dem wouldn't do such a thing

It's just that I think we all've had enough baseless accusations to last a lifetime.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

26. baseless accusations?

please name one

[Doomsayer13]

30. I guess it was Camejo accused the Dems

nevermind then, I discard all I said

[robbedvoter]

17. Yeah, Ralphie: DNC baked and delivered - it took about

100 Dems - all in powerful positions to engineer this coup (plus thousands of foot soldiers). I've been in many planning meetings on that and was actually in charge of the whipped cream. I did good, non?

[Cha]

22. It's too funny!

:7

[THUNDER HANDS]

19. well, it probably was

I mean, it probably was a disgruntled Democrat who threw it at him.

Look at the reaction here.

This is like a game of Clue - Matcom in the Office Building with a Pie.

:evilgrin:

[JVS]

33. I don't get this "we'd never do that"

Many of us would love to do it! I wish someone would throw a pie at W. And when it happens I'm not going to start some kind of "Well pone of us would never do that" I'll hope the gey who pies W is a Democrat and I'll be proud of him/her.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

21. A Dem would never give anyone the whole pie

They would divide it up on a progressive scale

[Cha]

24. Maybe someone will call in and take responsibility for it!

:-)

[ForrestGump]

93. I guess that makes me a totalitarian, then

:P

My pie.


Make the pie higher!

[lynndew2]

97. LOL NSM......very funny!!!!! n/t

[VolcanoJen]

25. CAMEJO MADE THE SUGGESTION: Here's my mini-transcript

Completely unofficial, coming to you thanks to the miracle of modern technology that is Tivo:

(This was preceded by Wolf's interview of some woman dressed in a ridiculous red hat. I have no idea who she was, but her hat was silly.)

Wolfie: And adding to the circus-like atmosphere surrounding the recall, the former Green Party Presidential candidate, Ralph Nader, got a pie in the face as he was endorsing a fellow party member, Peter Camejo. The pie culprit got away. Camejo suggested Democrats might be behind it, because they feel threatened by the Green Party. Ralph Nader, hit in the face by a pie.

Following Wolfie's comments were a couple replays of Ralphie getting pied. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

- Jennifer :-)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. He Looked Pissed

I thought he was going to cry.


Instead of offering his follower's pie in the sky he got a pie in the face.

[Hubert Flottz]

35. Wasn't Bush the one talking about pies awhile back?

Well they made the pie higher allright and missed his big mouth and got his entire head! I'll bet it was a Moran Type Neo Nazi straight from FReepville exercising his second amendment right to bear pie! BTW, I hear Arnold loves to eat pie!

[Hubert Flottz]

32. If it had been a Democrat he would have thrown a Cow Pie!

I hope this catches on everywhere Ralphie goes to pollute the air! Might have been a Soupy Salesballah member that loved his mom's Corvair Spider! Ralph never did say a word about all the VWs that came into the US as the Corvair bit the dust! The rear wheels on a VW were just as deadly!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. I'll Say One Thing About Ralph

as is evident by this thread he is outstanding at making core Democrats forget their differences and unite against a common enemy.

[w4rma]

36. What a whiner (n/t)

[RFKHumphreyObama]

37. Nader Blames Dems For Pie Attack

Dems blame Nader for helping * to steal 2000 US presidential elections and ensuring that an incompetent, muddling, belligerent neo con came to power


Now, which do you think is worse Ralphie?

[VolcanoJen]

40. Not to defend Nader, but Camejo was the one who suggested...

... that Dems were behind the attack.

See post #25 above!

:-)
Jennifer

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. Thanks For The Transcript

Camejo was sitting right next to Ralphie and was with him after the attack.

As Aristotle said "Birds of a feather flock together."


The Greens want to destroy the Democratic party.


That is their right


I just want the fight to be engaged.

[Terwilliger]

77. Yes, because the Greens are SO much more worthy

of your vitriol....because OBVIOUSLY the Greens represent the biggest threat to the Democratic party.

How about this? Why don't you prove you can fight a party that produces morons like George W. Bush, and then get back to me about why the Greens are such a threat.

[TacticalPeek]

39. Why Ralph the Saint deserves plenty pie in face:

What does he say about the D's and R's? Corporate money corrupts them all.

So he runs for President, knowing he will not win, but hoping he gets 5%+ of the vote.

Why 5%? $MONEY!$

Federal taxpayer matching funds. Filthy lucre.

Thanks for the worst president in US history, greedygut.

[kysrsoze]

73. I have no problem with getting the 5% but....

only if the race isn't running neck and neck near election day. Save it for a more opportune time, like a landslide.

[VOX]

41. Suck it up, Ralph. Pies happen.

If this is the worst thing that happens to you this year, St. Ralph, then you're doing better than most folks.

Just pass it off with a laugh, you jerk.

[CBHagman]

42. Whine on, Harvest Moon.

Somebody needs to get a life.

"In my administration, there would be no pie attack! Everyone would EAT his pie!"

[piece sine]

44. It wasn't a Republican pie!

Ralph gave the GOP 93,000 votes Florida votes. A vast majority of those votes would have gone to Gore. If Gore had tallied 93,538 votes over Bush, the election would have been won. No one will ever convince me that Ralph does bear directly responsibility as a spoiler.

He's lucky he wasn't run-over by a Corvair!

[Emboldened Chimp]

46. Boo-hoo, Ralph

Suck it up.

[Spirochete]

48. Wasn't the Democrats,,,

it was one of the candidates for governor, After all, Leo Gallagher is one of the candidates. He's always doing messy things with food.

[FredScuttle]

51. Hold on a sec....

didn't St. Ralph say that there's no difference between the Dems and the GOP? How, all of a sudden, can he spot the key difference between the parties - access to baked goods?

Here's another scenario...a disgruntled child of a GM executive, burned by the memory of how agitated St. Ralph made his daddy in the 60's, finally got his revenge. Makes about as much sense as blaming the "Democrats" for the action of one stalwart Biotic Brigader. Got paranoia, St. Ralph?

[DinahMoeHum]

52. Like I've said, Ralphie has no sense of humor. . .

What a goddamm crybaby.

:nopity:

[MrBenchley]

53. Did you see Joe Conason's comment?

"He certainly has no reason to think a Republican would do anything like that. The San Francisco Examiner reports that Nader "hurled the pie back, striking a bystander," which serves as a perfect metaphor for Naderite politics"

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2003/08/13/arianna/index.html

[Democat]

55. Brilliant

Nader "hurled the pie back, striking a bystander," which serves as a perfect metaphor for Naderite politics.

[TacticalPeek]

85. Joe smokes 'em! Thank you, God. n/t

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

56. Hahahahahahaha!

[John_H]

59. BWAAAHAAAHAAAAHAAAHAAAAA

Exactly right on

[newsguyatl]

60. yeah

and you throw like a girl ralphy

[Terwilliger]

62. absolutely pathetic

Freepers anyone?

[blm]

63. Rove probably did it.

.

[uhhuh]

64. Mihop

Get out your tinfoil ladies and gentleman.

Maybe Ralph had someone throw a pie at him to get some attention. No one is talking about him anymore, and he was at an event to endorse Camejo. I doubt there would be any coverage of this endorsement or Camejo's candidacy if there wasn't something in this event to draw attention to it.

The guy who threw the pie at him got away, and the candidate, Camejo, then blames the Dems for the incident. Since he knows he won't draw votes from the Repubs, he demonizes Dems and picks up a bigger share of the plurality, maybe even wins(hehe). You would think that there might have been some security at this event if they didn't want this to happen.

This has been your pie"tin" moment.

[Terwilliger]

66. a Democrat did it

why would there be any doubt in your mind?

[Alexander]

81. Because Nader is good at pissing people off...

General Motors, for example. The list goes on, unless you know nothing of Nader's history.

[lynndew2]

99. I think it was Gary Coleman

Thats how he got away so easily. IMHO...hee..hee

[Catherine Vincent]

67. Nader shouldn't blame Democrats.

But because he did, it shows that he realizes the anger that a lot of Democrats have for him.

But I think this pie throwing business is risky. I know it's fun and all and it's been happening for a while, but one day it will happen to someone that will get startled and who knows, it may trigger a heart attack or something. You never know.

People should be careful.

[Rex]

68. This was a SETUP! Rove has been planning this for years!

Remember when Bush said, "Make the pie higher!" It was code! It launched a long term pie-in-the-face spec ops mission which included a huge number of deep op greens (in reality they are dbl agent reps): their one goal - a pie in the face of Ralph Nadar. The usual fallout/scapegoat would be the dem party. It worked like a charm.

Oh those sinister bastards!

[aquart]

69. "Blamed"??? Not about to take the high road, eh, Ralph?

[buddhamama]

83. "Let it go..."

good one.

[Ein]

84. That reminds me of something....

can't think of it right now...

[Tom Kitten]

88. A Democrat did do it!

Obviously this was Clinton's fault!

Why the big nasty brouhaha? Another Ralph I know of would have paused, licked his lips and said "How sweet it is!"

Ralphie boy's a clown, but a humorless clown. No wonder he's looking for work. Not much demand for them nowadays, we've got plenty enough already in office, in journalism, and on tv.

Good bye, Ralph...don't let the door hit your backside as you exit into obscurity...

[VoteClark]

87. I think it was a Nader supporter in 2000

who realized he was fooled into thinking he voted for Nader but ended up electing Bush.

:kick:
J4Clark

[corarose]

95. Wouldn't it be nice if Nader got a pie in the face everywhere he went?

His ego would be destroyed.

[sendero]

98. I dunno....

.... I think it would take a tactical nuke to destroy the absurd ego of this has been.

[JackSwift]

100. Uh huh. How about it's the Supreme Court or Katherin Harris'

fault? Do you have any evidence that the Democratic Party is behind this attack Ralph, or is this more of your megalomania. No Demoratic would give you the press. You do realize the 3/4 of the press you got was because of the despicable attack? I would never do anything so nice to Ralph as a pie attack. Nor something with such reckless and dangerous implications. I truly regret this attack, but no Democrat I know would do such an irresponsible thing.

[Hubert Flottz]

102. They think they know beyond a shadow of a doubt who dunit!

Nasa enhanced a video tape and came up with a clear picture of a large white fuzzy arm with long black toenails on it! Police say they picked up a suspect and questioned him, as a direct result of the use of the computer enhanced photo from Nasa! The suspect was then booked and he stated in the presence of his court appointed lawyer, when asked if he hit Mr Nader with the pie, "ROOOWWW ROO OH OH OH ROO ooOH!" Mr White Fang is currently in the custody of the county pound and is being held without bond, until a bond hearing can be arranged!

[Cappadonna]

103. The Whole Pie thing showed us some of the real faults of Nader/Greens

First of all, Nader and many of my fellow greens are delusional to the point of being neurotic. The Dems are trying to hold their party together and keep the state from becoming a public playpen for the Bush Gang. Do you really think Terry McAuliffe would give a shit enough to order out a hit with a fucking pie on Ralph Nader?! The Greens not even a real contender-- all of his voters would go to Arriana anyway. If the DLC were going to smack someone with a pie, it would be Al Franken. Come on, if this were some true Gore/DLC plot that the Naderites are trying to play, it would have been a fucking bat to the knee caps!!! Just as many Dems blame all of the failings of the gelding DLC leadership on Greens, too many greens spend way too much time in a tin foil hat think that the Dems are out to get them. Honestly, the Greens are such an non-factor in this oddball race of media starved musclemen, dimunitive child actors living welfare, out of touch leftist socialite commentators and billionaire porn brokers in gold plated wheelchairs.


Secondly, its shows the Green Party's leadership and many of its core members as a bunch of humourless demagouges who somehow feel above reproach. Do you think Al Gore would have been running around on TV blaming Repubs if some nut smacked him with a cream pie? Fuck no, he would have laughed about and moved on. This is the type of uptight nonsense we would expect from pricks like Karl Rove and Pat Robertson. This is why no one will vote Green beyond the whole Florida fiasco, they're seen (and act) as a bunch of snotty, leftist, hippie killjoys who like to bitch more than they like to make change. Here is a Green who has earned his stripes (ran for office, worked a several local campaigns and sit on serveral community boards) telling his brethren (and their anointed God, Saint Ralph) to ....... lighten up, it was only a cream pie.



- Capppadonna, Pragramatic, Results Driven Green from CT.