What's with all the republican president sympathy threads?

[bacchant]

Poor Reagan, poor Nixon? In my considerable years on this planet there are a few things I've come to accept as irrefutable facts, one of them is that republicans are assholes, period.

[qazplm]

1. come on man

sometimes, you have to be human. Death means family members grieving. Grandkids, great grandkids, wifes, husbands, kids...

Death is not a time to be partisan.

[blueknight]

3. i feel for the family....

but i cant forget he done more to hurt the working man then any president ever!

[Trajan]

2. Humanity first ....

Above all ...

[Liberal Classic]

4. At some point you realize

There's more to life than ideology.

[SixShooter]

5. True that

All you whiners, grow up. Life is too short for partisan bickering...no I didnt agree w/the policies of Reagan, but my heart goes out to his family.

RIP!

[Liberal Classic]

21. I never felt any great love for Nancy Reagan, either

But seeing her on the news at the fetal stem cell research fundraiser last month gave me pause. She was obviously there due to her husband's illness. Alzheimer's disease runs in my family and I'm caring for my elder parent who is in the early stages of it now. I'll tell you I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. It's one thing to die, but it's another to have the mind stolen beforehand.

All this petty harping pisses me off. I'll wager there are some people on the board touched by alzheimers, and I'll also wager they'll say just what I did. This doesn't lower my opinion of anyone. I proves to me that people are people. Get right down to it, republicans and democrats are people. Better to treat them as such.

[FeebMaster]

6. Maybe they feel bad that one of the

finest gun grabbers of the 20th century is gone.

[Trajan]

8. One track mind ....

Guns are for sissies who cannot fight for themselves ...

[FeebMaster]

10. Yup.

[kcordell]

7. Death

Doesn't distinguish between Democrat and Republican. He has fought a long battle with an devastating illness that doesn't care about ideology. He battled hard and with dignity. I wish his family strength.

[bhunt70]

9. they are humans first, I dont wish for suffering for anyone.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

11. We are being decent human beings...sorry that's a problem for you

[DrWeird]

12. Yeah, no kdding.

It's kind of like having sympathy for bin Laden, or Hitler. Being decent my ass.

[qazplm]

13. thats insane

Reagan was nowhere close to bin Laden or Hitler...good grief.

He was absolutely wrong on just about everything but he didnt kill 6 million people and he didnt use suicide bombers to kills thousands more.

[DrWeird]

15. Reagan trained bin Laden.

He negotiated with terrorists, directly due to his actions thousands of people were murdered.

And then there's the millions dead from AIDS which he could have prevented if he wasn't such a bigot.

[EdGy]

41. and don't forget the death sqads in Central America

which tortured and murdered innocent men, women and children. Those were part and parcel of Ronald Reagan and his policies.

Maybe not 6 million, but if evil only starts when you pass the 6 million mark, then we're in trouble.

[ikojo]

38. Reagan visited Bitburg cemetary in Germany where

SS officers were buried...here is what he said about visiting a concentration camp where innocent VICTIMS of the Nazis were killed...

http://www.quickchange.com/reagan/1985.html

3/21/85
At his 29th press conference, President Reagan explains that he has no intention of visiting a concentration camp site during his upcoming visit to West Germany. To do so, he explains, would impose an unpleasant guilt trip on a nation where there are "very few alive that remember even the war, and certainly none of them who were adults and participating in any way." A soldier who was twenty in 1940 would only be 65 at the time this was said.

4/11/85
The White House announces that President Reagan will lay a wreath at the Bitburg, West Germany, military cemetery housing the graves of both American and Nazi soldiers. It is quickly noted that there are, in fact, no Americans buried there.

4/16/85
As the contra aid vote approaches, President Reagan claims he "just had a verbal message delivered to me from Pope John Paul, urging us to continue our efforts in Central America." The Vatican quickly issues a denial.

4/18/85
While Michael Deaver is in West Germany searching for an "appropriate" concentration camp for the President to visit, President Reagan defends his visit to Bitburg by claiming the German soldiers "were victims, just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps."

4/29/85
President Reagan defends the Bitburg visit as "morally right," adding, "I know all the bad things that happened in that war. I was in uniform for four years myself." President Reagan spent his time during World War Two in Hollywood, making training films.

5/5/85
After having visited the Bergen-Belsen death camp, President Reagan makes an eight minute stop at Bitburg. During the ceremony, he cites a letter from 13-year-old Beth Flom who, he claims, "urged me to lay the wreath at Bitburg cemetery in honor of the future of Germany." In fact, she urged him not to go at all.

An administration built upon LIES.

[bacchant]

43. I'm surprised he didn't request to be buried at Bitburg. n/t

[Raskolnik]

39. Oh come on.

Reagan wasn't Hitler. He wasn't a good president either. He was a man who did bad things while in office, and will have to answer for them.

He wasn't Hitler. You do a disservice to the discussion when you make that comparison.

[Forkboy]

42. You're right...Hitler could paint

:)

[terrya]

14. I just couldn't give in to feeling glee over someone with Alzheimers.

I dearly hope none of us succumbs to this horrible disease.

I despised Reagan as President and his record. But it must have been terrible for Nancy and the family to see this man deteriorate as he did. It's a terrible way to die and I just couldn't feel happy about it.

[Forkboy]

17. What if he had been hit by a bus?

[j1607760]

16. I have some small sympathy for Regan, now if Dubya had died...

Regan's death (while not filling me with grief) does't make me want to heap scorn on him -I don't hate the man enough for that. Now if Bush had died, a man who invalidated the 1st through 8th Amendments, raped the S&L's, compromised the identity of a CIA agent because of his petty political ego -you get the idea, if a human waste like Bush had died then I'd gladly piss on his grave.

[bacchant]

18. Ok, ok, I'm being a dick, I'm sorry

I do feel bad for the family, and I'll say a little prayer, just as soon as I'm done praying for the thousands of innocents these guys sent to early graves with their policies.

[Snoggera]

23. Why do people feel they have to mourn people who

continued and intensified the destruction of this once great nation?

Sure, obviously it's a bad and sad time for the family, but why should that translate to the entire country mourning?

Did he ever, once, do anything good or helpful for you or your family?
(not just you, generic question)

If not, then why mourn?

I don't.

[bacchant]

29. Because it's respectful and socially appropriate, and I can dig that, but

I guess I'm just not feeling the love. I'll raise a glass in his honor tonight, to his passing, not to him.

[Liberal Classic]

31. Well hell

Let's kick 'em while they're down!

[Snoggera]

19. Thank you

for saying in outline form exactly what I'm thinking this minute.

[slinkerwink]

20. because we want to be better than freepers

Freepers would gloat if Clinton or Kerry died. Let's not be the same.

[Liberal Classic]

22. Too late.

As I said above, republicans and democrats are only human.

[Snoggera]

25. I'm not gloating

but I sure as hell won't say a prayer for the evil shit. I won't say anything "nice" about him either, but I can't think of one nice word to say.

If it wasn't for his policies and the brainwashing of the public in the 80's, this country wouldn't be in the shape it's in at this moment.

[Forkboy]

30. Clinton and Kerry

are GOOD people though.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

34. Freepers have rubbed our noses in their...

...s**t since JFK beat Nixon in 1960.

Sorry, but I have no sympathy for the man.

I do have the greatest respect for Nancy Reagan over the last several years that she has had to deal with this disease. If anone has ever had a family member die from Alzheimer's, you will understand my comments. If nothing else comes out of Reagan's death, I hope that stem-cell research is given full support.

[BillZBubb]

24. I've got no sympathy for Reagan. He had none for me.

Still, we shouldn't be attacking Reagan now--unless the Repugs take his beatification too far. Then we have to respond with the unpleasant truth.

Don't speak ill of the recent dead--unless forced to.

[Carolina]

26. I am with you ...

the excuse that since the deceased was after all a human being, we should be respectful doesn't cut it for me. Hitler was human, too. Let's face it SOME humans are evil, some are self-serving pricks reserving their limited humanity for themselves only. When I think of either Nixon or Reagan or Strom Thurmond or Lester Maddox, their humanity does not rank very high. They did however get lifespan's more than a full three score and ten while the good guys JFK, MLK, RFK, Carnahan, Wellstone, etc died young.

I dunno; Dick and Ronnie may in retrospect have been better than W but I just can't stand all the rose-colored glasses here today. Nor do I feel very empathetic. We are living with the horror of Nixon's and Reagan's legacies now since many members of the current regime cut their repuke, dirty-trick playing teeth under the original Dickster and further honed them under Ronnie (see the Bush Dyslexicon by Mark Crispin Miller).

Think I'll go for a head-clearing walk.

[Zomby Woof]

27. a-fucking-men, my fellow traveler

I feel the world is a better place with his passing.

[jono]

28. I have to wonder whether you have any Republicans in your family.

I vehemently disagree with my parents on politics and religion, to the point where I feel rage when such topics are discussed. Still, they are my family. Asshole or no, Regan had a family, too.

Humanity exists at the root of my politics.

[bacchant]

33. Yeah I do, and some of them are assholes too, but I can still love them

because to the best of my knowledge, none of them are mass murders.

[jono]

35. I did not defend Reagan anywhere.

I am merely pointing out that he was human, and by extension directly connected to the lives of other humans. As a fellow human, I feel sympathy for their grief. That does not mean I forgive or endorse anything that Reagan or his administation did. I also feel sympathy for those who lost someone because of his administration.

[bacchant]

37. dig-able. n/t

[Media_Lies_Daily]

32. There seems to be an impulse among Democrats and Progressives...

...to prove that we have more human feelings than our GOP counterparts. Those folks seem compelled to stumble all over themselves to offer sympathy to the family and friends of the departed as if they were old family friends.

Well, let me tell you something...NONE of Nixon, Ford, Reagan, or Bush I would have been my personal friend. Additionally, I will NEVER respect them for their actions in office. I also have NO respect for LBJ, an individual who IMHO should have been a Republican, and one that used the passage of the Civil Rights Act to appear to be a liberal.

Junior is an installed dictator, and I have NOTHING but contempt for that individual.

[booley]

36. beating up on the dead is so freeperish

it's what freepers do, glory and rant in the misery of others.

Vincent Foster being suicidal was a conspiracy.

Clinton not crying enough at Ron Brown's funeral was an indictment.

I am sure we could go on about Clinton's mother, Wellstone and Carnahan and too many Kenedy's for me to remember.
And then we have the 9-11 victims and Nick Berg. Who only have importance to these freepers becuase it's politically convenient.

If them doing pisses me off, why would I do the exact same thing just becuase it's somebody I didn't like?

asshole or not (and reagan was an asshole) it doesn't matter. He's dead and now buried. Point out Reagan's many flaws if you need to piss off conservatives, but I see no reason to beat up the dead. A human being still died, leaving grieving family. It's sick not to respect that. iI's what freepers do.

[Raskolnik]

40. Yup

Couldn't agree more.