Does anybody here really think that they won't cheer when Clinton passes?

[truebrit71]

Gimme a break...

Reagun was the ultimate Black vs White president. He was the first simpleton elected to the highest office in the land using fake patriotism and a fake "aw shucks" personna.

He was the architect of an un-announced war on women, minorities and the poor.

He was morally bankrupt, and a puppet of the Corporatism that is prevalent today.

We should "pay respects", or "honor the dead"??...fuck that.

Where was his sympathy for the people of El Salvador or Nicaragua?
Where was his sympathy for the WWII vets he pissed on when he honored Nazi's at Bitburg?
Where was his sympathy for the poor, or the under-privileged?
Where was his sympathy for those dying of AIDS?

There was none.

But we're supposed to be "respectful" because we're better than that?

Don't you apologists get it yet? By doing that we are allowing the right-wing in this country to frame the debate.. AGAIN!!!


I say NO MORE!!!

He was a crappy actor and an even crappier president.

He died.

Get over it.

[Skittles]

1. all this newfound compassion for Reagan is sickening

nt

[aquart]

2. It isn't new found.

They've had him canonized for years. Very easy to do when a man can't make public statements.

[kiahzero]

3. It's not compassion for him

It's compassion for his family. They've suffered a loss of a loved one.

[salin]

4. What we did in Abu Ghraib wasn't as bad as what Saddam did

ergo its not torture and its okay.

Same logic.

I don't fall into the 'never speak ill of the dead' camp. Do fall into the show human decency for a few days camp... for one's own dignity. THat doesn't mean one has to join the great mythmaking... nor deny the truths about his horrible run in office... just don't need to start celebratory and ugly threads right off the bat. Which for me, would demonstrate that I have lost, due to my political anger (which I have, believe me), that part of me that holds on to human dignity and decency.. and in part is what drives me to sacrifice (work wise and $ wise) in support of policies that support the diginity of other human beings. YMMV

[searchingforlight]

5. And I believe that anyone who wants to bash him has a right to do it.

This is America. The obscenity is not what is taking place tonight. The obscenity is what takes place in the halls of the Congress, the White House and Iraq.

Free speech either is or it isn't.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

6. GODFUCKING DAMMIT I FUCKING KNOW THERE WILL BE

I've only spent my life serving in what I had believed to be the more humane compassionate party..only to find out hatred is a good thing as long as I express it towards all the right people...what motherfucking hogwash!

Do you think I am a liberal so I can drag my knuckles to the goddamn fucking left?

All this does is really make me less bright about any future...

How can you and I ideologically agree about anything if we can't rationally assess the VALUE or lack therof of HATRED?

[Skittles]

8. the policies of Reagan and the Bushes were/are EVIL EVIL EVIL

I take no joy in his death but he was an EVIL BASTARD.

[truebrit71]

10. He's dead. He's responsible for the deaths of THOUSANDS

..and I'm supposed to be "compassionate"?

Not likely.

I am merely showing the same sort of compassion he showed to those he sentenced to death.

Telling people to be respectful at this time is the same as telling people that we shouldn't change presidents during a war. Or that criticising the "president" as giving aid to the enemy.

I will not play along.

I refuse to allow the right-wing to frame the debate.

He's dead.

Move on.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

15. I will...I'm fatigued

Have at it...but what the fuck are you cheering? Did we accomplish anything today when a guy that's had alzheimers for the last decade died? What exactly was it?

Frankly, I think all this horseshit about his evil is just an excuse to behave poorly.

[truebrit71]

17. I am NOT cheering...

Frankly I think this 'horsehit' about his evil is relevant and necessary...or do you suggest we simply join in lock-step with the right-wing and canonize him?

I do not celebrate his death, in fact I think it must come as some sort of relief to his long-suffering family. I cannot begin to imagine the awfulness of losing someone to the effects of Alzhemier's.

But I will NOT join in the "celebration" of his life.

He was an evil man, who did awful, evil things.

Now he's dead.

The End.

[sundancekid]

7. two wrongs don't make a right (or left for that matter) ... while I agree

with the political issues you raise that are indeed negative -- upon any person's death, I simply don't believe he/she need be reduced only to the worst moments or only to the finest hours -- we are all a combo of both, and I don't want to be exhorted into what I despise most: the mantra of "either with me or against me" -- now THAT'S the base and debase of freeperdom.

[benburch]

9. Of course there will be.

Bad taste knows no party boundaries, though there is a lot more of it in Freeperland.

I'm absolutely certain that, when Big Dog's time comes, Rimjob and Gator will have themselves an old-time good old boy party; ATF. Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms!

[ContinentalOp]

11. hell,

freepers or their earlier counterparts were cheering when they assasinated JFK, Bobby, MLK, Malcolm X, etc.

This is not an issue of "compassion." To me the only important type of compassion is in action not words. So what if our words today are not compassionate? Nobody here has the blood on their hands that Ronnie did. Any repuke can appear occasionally "compassionate" throught their lying words but it's our duty to call them on their sickening actions.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

12. KICK

[kaitykaity]

13. They will dance in the streets.

and bring up all the phantom sins, all the lies that
they told about Big Dog.

They will say that Hillary finally murdered him.
They will say that Chelsea helped her.

I love DU and this penchant we have here to want to rise
above our baser natures. You can damn well be assured
that no such introspection would go on at FreeRepublic.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

14. and another

Where was his sympathy for the people of El Salvador or Nicaragua?
Where was his sympathy for the WWII vets he pissed on when he honored Nazi's at Bitburg?
Where was his sympathy for the poor, or the under-privileged?
Where was his sympathy for those dying of AIDS?

[crossroads]

16. The 80's were awful years...

My dad said he never had to take a $2.80 an hour cut in pay for any other president but Reagan. He hurt union workers and their families! He damn near broke the unions back in this country! Clinton was great for the country, everyone was working, times were always good under the Dems.

The Freepers never cut the DUers any slack when Wellstone was killed!

Click image to see what Reagan leashed...

[Forkboy]

18. They will and I wont care

[Walt Starr]

19. Reagan was definitely a better actor than he was a president

and he was about the shittiest actor there ever was.

[NightTrain]

21. Goddammit, you beat me to the punch!

:evilgrin:

[NightTrain]

20. I don't give a flying fuck about "them."

What I care about is me!

By age 14, I had already lost all four of my grandparents. And both parents were dead by my 32nd birthday. I can well imagine how much worse it would've made me feel if someone who had disliked my parents or grandparents for whatever reason had approached me the day they died and told me what terrible people they had been and how much better off the world was now that they had stopped infesting the earth with their presence.

That's why I refuse to celebrate Ronald Reagan's death. I despised the man and everything he stood for, but out of human decency, I'm willing to let the Neocons have their period of mourning. Fuck you if you disapprove!