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dsewell Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:33 AM
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Our customs are strange and frightening to me
A revered and iconic former leader has lain in a comatose or semiconscious state for months or years. We wait until his heart stops, and then declare him dead and announce that it is now time to mourn. His body is filled with embalming fluid, and cosmetic skill is applied to make him appear as he did years ago before he fell ill. His body is flown across a continent so that many people may gaze upon it for several days. His body is then flown back across a continent so that it may finally be placed in the earth.

I don't have a better suggestion, but I submit that an anthropologist from Alpha Centauri would find it rather remarkable.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:36 AM
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1. the naked ape has many strange habits
on star trek, when they ask the klingons what they want to do with their fallen dead, they always say, hell, we don't care what you do with an empty shell. hoist it into space for all we care.

this particular dead guy will get a monument, which will most likely be chronically desecrated.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:38 AM
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2. Well, the embalming
Edited on Sun Jun-06-04 08:39 AM by supernova
is done for the health of the living, esp true if you aren't going to bury the body in short order as you do in orthodox Judasim and Islam.

I agree though, it does sound a bit chaotic to fly him to DC, have him lie there for the funeral, then fly him back to the Library.



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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:39 AM
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3. the "viewing" of corpses is very disturbing to me
is this the way people want to remember their loved ones?
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:40 AM
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4. It's a kind of closure
During a highly emotional time, you can see, in no uncertain terms, that they are dead and not coming back.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:43 AM
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5. I guess I have no trouble believing someone is dead
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:46 AM
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7. Neither do I
but I think death is kind of taboo in this country. We'd rather put it away and not discuss it or see it, corpses I mean. Same with not seeing the bodies coming from Iraq, American and Iraqi.

It's kind of odd since death is part of the circle of life.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 04:07 PM
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14. well, I think it is odd to pump a corpse full of drugs and put makeup on
them *shudder*
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:55 AM
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11. I agree.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 04:16 PM
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15. My family has always
had a 'viewing' for all my dead relatives. It's just the way they have always done it, you get used to it. :shrug: Actually it doesn't blot out the living memories of them and still remember them the way they were when alive. I would find it strange not to have a viewing, 'different strokes for different folks'. :shrug:
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:44 AM
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6. I Want To Make Certain He's Dead
It's all hearsay evidence so far.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:49 AM
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9. LOL!
good one!
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immune2irony Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:46 AM
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8. Me too, but I'm just a caveman
I dont understand your ways of ceremonial burial and embalming fluids. They frighten and confuse me.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:53 AM
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10. unfrozen and immune2irony
i'm giving you the thumbs up from the back of the cave
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:57 AM
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12. Me too
No one in my immediate family ever went in for this viewing bullshit but my grandfather and some cousins did. It's a gross custom. I believe someone is dead if they're in a coffin, I don't need to look at the corpse.

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scrotim Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 09:05 AM
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13. It gets weirder when you consider that the public, and probably no one
else in D.C. will actually see the body. I assume the casket will be closed and flag-draped as usual.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's only an empty box that's making the trip to D.C.; I mean, why bother when they could just keep him in a walk in freezer in California until the burial?

Yeah, our "customs" surrounding death are bizarre, and mostly designed, I think, to help us avoid the reality of it.

In many cultures it is family and friends who wash and prepare the body for burial. It is a hands-on way of facing the reality, and of saying goodbye.

But then, if we took care of all that within our families, and buried the bodies within a day or so, think of the billions of dollars the funeral industry would lose.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 04:16 PM
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16. They ought to just feed him to the birds
like they do in Tibet.
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